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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2014, 09:42:17 am »
Perhaps this is just a case of some highly pragmatic scientists trying to secure funding for development of tech that can teach you anything in a matter of seconds but realising that the establishment needs some totally retarded use-case in order to support it.  :lulz:
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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2014, 11:15:14 am »
Perhaps this is just a case of some highly pragmatic scientists trying to secure funding for development of tech that can teach you anything in a matter of seconds but realising that the establishment needs some totally retarded use-case in order to support it.  :lulz:
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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2014, 11:26:58 am »
The Romulans (I think) did that shit to Chief O'Brien in DS9 (I think). It did not end well and it turned out he was innocent, but batshit. I don't think real live science should be taking its cues from crazy aliens on TV. This is not what we call 'improvement' or 'progress'. It's what we call WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

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It was the Cardassians. And yeah, O'Brien only served a small portion of that sentence and was a bit unstable when he got out. Can't imagine what someone would be like after the full time.
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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2014, 01:10:41 pm »
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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2014, 02:14:48 pm »
Perhaps this is just a case of some highly pragmatic scientists trying to secure funding for development of tech that can teach you anything in a matter of seconds but realising that the establishment needs some totally retarded use-case in order to support it.  :lulz:

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This cracks me up in a horrormirthy way...mainly because it's frighteningly plausible.

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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #50 on: March 20, 2014, 02:20:27 pm »
Perhaps this is just a case of some highly pragmatic scientists trying to secure funding for development of tech that can teach you anything in a matter of seconds but realising that the establishment needs some totally retarded use-case in order to support it.  :lulz:

"This technology, if we got a grant to develop it, would enable incredible leaps and bounds in education and the human capacity for learning!"

"Ummm, education? We'll never get funding".

"Shit, you're right. Is there a way to use it to kill people? OH WAIT I KNOW we can propose a way to punish people harder!"
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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2014, 02:23:06 pm »
Perhaps this is just a case of some highly pragmatic scientists trying to secure funding for development of tech that can teach you anything in a matter of seconds but realising that the establishment needs some totally retarded use-case in order to support it.  :lulz:

"This technology, if we got a grant to develop it, would enable incredible leaps and bounds in education and the human capacity for learning!"

"Ummm, education? We'll never get funding".

"Shit, you're right. Is there a way to use it to kill people? OH WAIT I KNOW we can propose a way to punish people harder!"

:lulz: exactly!

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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2014, 02:34:07 pm »
I'm actually trying to find out whether this is actually being developed, or if it's one of those "theoretically, maybe" applications for technology that isn't even in development and is purely speculation.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2014, 02:37:24 pm »
FFS. Why are we even talking about this like it's a thing? Some punishment philosopher blogged about "maybe someday in the future".

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Philosopher Rebecca Roache is in charge of a team of scholars focused upon the ways futuristic technologies might transform punishment.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/prisoners-could-serve-1000-year-sentence-in-85-hours-in-the-future-2014-3#ixzz2wWAJQzcZ

http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2013/08/enhanced-punishment-can-technology-make-life-sentences-longer/
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #54 on: March 20, 2014, 02:40:24 pm »
Perhaps this is just a case of some highly pragmatic scientists trying to secure funding for development of tech that can teach you anything in a matter of seconds but realising that the establishment needs some totally retarded use-case in order to support it.  :lulz:

"This technology, if we got a grant to develop it, would enable incredible leaps and bounds in education and the human capacity for learning!"

"Ummm, education? We'll never get funding".

"Shit, you're right. Is there a way to use it to kill people? OH WAIT I KNOW we can propose a way to punish people harder!"

"Little Timmy spilt his milk again"

"Well, you know our policy. Once is a mistake, twice gets you 100 years in the corner"


The more I consider this, the more I become certain that if available parents will use it to fuck kids up long before they even get into a school environment.

The thought also occurs that 1000 years is a fucking long time to plan something. If you tried this shit with an already dedicated criminal it could quite easily lead to some of the most spectacular crimes ever committed. Consider it. If you had 1000 years to plan something, I bet you'd figure out a way to do it.

Naturally, the implications in regards to terrorism are both hilarious and horrifying for these exact same reasons.

ETA - Thanks nigel, will shut up with idiot speculations.
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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #55 on: March 20, 2014, 04:18:38 pm »
FFS. Why are we even talking about this like it's a thing? Some punishment philosopher blogged about "maybe someday in the future".

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Philosopher Rebecca Roache is in charge of a team of scholars focused upon the ways futuristic technologies might transform punishment.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/prisoners-could-serve-1000-year-sentence-in-85-hours-in-the-future-2014-3#ixzz2wWAJQzcZ

http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2013/08/enhanced-punishment-can-technology-make-life-sentences-longer/

Yeah, I'd kinda figured someone watched Total Recall and Demolition Man back to back then had a - tough on crime - wet dream all over their nice clean bet linen. :kingmeh:
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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #56 on: March 20, 2014, 05:55:53 pm »
FFS. Why are we even talking about this like it's a thing? Some punishment philosopher blogged about "maybe someday in the future".

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Philosopher Rebecca Roache is in charge of a team of scholars focused upon the ways futuristic technologies might transform punishment.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/prisoners-could-serve-1000-year-sentence-in-85-hours-in-the-future-2014-3#ixzz2wWAJQzcZ

http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2013/08/enhanced-punishment-can-technology-make-life-sentences-longer/

I dig.  FWIW, I did mention point out that it's hardly a scientific article in the OP.  I thought the concept and approach was kind of an odd (albeit interesting take)

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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #57 on: March 20, 2014, 06:07:55 pm »
I'm talking about it because I think the millienium old children is a story concept that practically writes itself!
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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #58 on: March 20, 2014, 06:09:30 pm »
I'm talking about it because I think the millienium old children is a story concept that practically writes itself!
This! The actual rationale for suggesting it is pretty weak. Like, "drugs make time slow down, let's isolate that property of drugs and work out how doses correspond to time" weak as far as I can tell. But that it was suggested is worth discussion, IMO, because it's a fucked up suggestion.

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Re: Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours'
« Reply #59 on: March 20, 2014, 09:29:04 pm »
The Romulans (I think) did that shit to Chief O'Brien in DS9 (I think). It did not end well and it turned out he was innocent, but batshit. I don't think real live science should be taking its cues from crazy aliens on TV. This is not what we call 'improvement' or 'progress'. It's what we call WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

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It was the Cardassians. And yeah, O'Brien only served a small portion of that sentence and was a bit unstable when he got out. Can't imagine what someone would be like after the full time.
O'Brien really got the awful end of things on DS9.

We were both wrong. It was the Argrathi. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Hard_Time_(episode)

But yeah. Ahem. Dumb idea.
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