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Experiments with monkeys
« on: March 31, 2014, 03:41:47 am »
I have a feeling many of you will enjoy this:

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2014/03/the-experiment.html?m=1

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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2014, 05:12:23 am »
I have a feeling many of you will enjoy this:

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2014/03/the-experiment.html?m=1

Well, this one didn't last long.
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2014, 05:19:12 am »
Now replace the cold shower with a dangerous predator and realise that you're an advocate for being rejected by natural selection.

GTFO my gene pool.

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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 12:46:10 pm »
I haven't read all that many scientific studies which try to imagine what monkeys might say in the situations scientists place them in...
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“Soon all of us will have special names” — Professor Brian O’Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes" — Walt Whitman

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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 02:26:33 pm »
I don't think it matters (the 100 bonobos thing was a hoax, as well).  What matters is that by post 2, the OP was telling us all what horrible hive-mind monkeys we are.
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2014, 03:29:07 pm »
I don't think it matters (the 100 bonobos thing was a hoax, as well).  What matters is that by post 2, the OP was telling us all what horrible hive-mind monkeys we are.

That's not what I took from that.

I took from it that society robotically repeats certain behaviors without any understanding (or attempt to understand) of why such actions take place, because: SHEEPLE.  But, I could be jumping the gun there.
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2014, 03:41:31 pm »
I don't think it matters (the 100 bonobos thing was a hoax, as well).  What matters is that by post 2, the OP was telling us all what horrible hive-mind monkeys we are.

That's not what I took from that.

I took from it that society robotically repeats certain behaviors without any understanding (or attempt to understand) of why such actions take place, because: SHEEPLE.  But, I could be jumping the gun there.

So could I, but I doubt it.
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2014, 03:47:47 pm »
I don't think it matters (the 100 bonobos thing was a hoax, as well).  What matters is that by post 2, the OP was telling us all what horrible hive-mind monkeys we are.

That's not what I took from that.

I took from it that society robotically repeats certain behaviors without any understanding (or attempt to understand) of why such actions take place, because: SHEEPLE.  But, I could be jumping the gun there.

So could I, but I doubt it.

Your track record speaks for itself.
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2014, 09:26:22 pm »
I don't think it matters (the 100 bonobos thing was a hoax, as well).  What matters is that by post 2, the OP was telling us all what horrible hive-mind monkeys we are.

That's not what I took from that.

I took from it that society robotically repeats certain behaviors without any understanding (or attempt to understand) of why such actions take place, because: SHEEPLE.  But, I could be jumping the gun there.

So could I, but I doubt it.

Your track record speaks for itself.

I am sometimes mistaken.  I hope that's the case here, but I kinda doubt it.
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2014, 11:38:24 pm »
Granted, I am a horrible paranoid bastard.
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 11:38:46 pm »
Alright then, should've known that something posted in the form of a meme-image with text on it would be a fabrication on the internet.  But like what the Good Reverend Roger said, it's the message that's more important.  It clearly outlines a behavioral pattern that describes the mutations apparent in many ways of life, such as religions, like Christianity for example, which most likely is barely even recognizable to the people who first practiced esoteric Christian pseudo-Jewish magic stuff.

Mainly, I just think if more people thought about the phenomenon occurring in this "experiment", it would be a good thing for the thinkers out there.  A fable if you will.

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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2014, 11:39:44 pm »
Alright then, should've known that something posted in the form of a meme-image with text on it would be a fabrication on the internet.  But like what the Good Reverend Roger said, it's the message that's more important.  It clearly outlines a behavioral pattern that describes the mutations apparent in many ways of life, such as religions, like Christianity for example, which most likely is barely even recognizable to the people who first practiced esoteric Christian pseudo-Jewish magic stuff.

Mainly, I just think if more people thought about the phenomenon occurring in this "experiment", it would be a good thing for the thinkers out there.  A fable if you will.

So, it's fake, but we should treat it as real?

Sort of like the free market, then.
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2014, 11:45:25 pm »
Alright then, should've known that something posted in the form of a meme-image with text on it would be a fabrication on the internet.  But like what the Good Reverend Roger said, it's the message that's more important.  It clearly outlines a behavioral pattern that describes the mutations apparent in many ways of life, such as religions, like Christianity for example, which most likely is barely even recognizable to the people who first practiced esoteric Christian pseudo-Jewish magic stuff.

Mainly, I just think if more people thought about the phenomenon occurring in this "experiment", it would be a good thing for the thinkers out there.  A fable if you will.

The phenomenon which the article Nigel posted, (which presumably you read, judging by your response?) refers to in saying "regardless of its cause, this [sex difference] raises serious questions about the robustness of the phenomenon" and "the real experiment didn't even make the point that MM wanted to make"?

You can't continue to use it as evidence for your position after it's been discredited so.