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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #60 on: April 03, 2014, 09:41:54 pm »





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The Monkey Experiment
   Thereís a famous experiment where they keep a bunch of monkeys in a room for an indefinite amount of time. Thereís a big white staircase leading up out of the room. Every time a monkey climbs to the top of the staircase, he gets blasted back down the stairs with a hose. When this happens, every monkey in the room also gets blasted with water. This makes them very angry.

    Soon, the monkeys have figured it out: beat the shit out of any monkey that starts to climb the stairs. Thatís the new rule.

    At some point, they remove a monkey and send in a new one. He learns the rule quickly: donít climb the stairs. And if weíre beating somebody up, join in. One by one, they replace each monkey with a new one who has to learn the rule.

    At some point they can turn off the hose. The monkeys will reliably prevent escape. Policing the stairs has become a cultural norm. Eventually, they have this population of monkeys who are trained to beat up any monkey that tries to escape, but donít even understand why.

    The experiment is run by interns who are paid in course credit. Occasionally, an intern finishes the semester and leaves. New interns join the team and everybody explains how to feed the monkeys and how to record the data. But at this point, none of the interns are from the original group, none of them have met the scientists leading this project. Most of the interns donít fully understand the point of the experiment.

    The scientist who began the experiment left long ago. Other researchers were assigned to the project by an administrator in order to keep this valuable experiment running. None of the remaining scientists are actually authors of the paper, or even understand what itís about. 

    The administrator supervising the project isnít terribly involved with it. He just prolongs the experiment because itís his departmentís main source of funding. But he didnít begin this project, he just inherited it from his predecessor, who is on a leave of absence and hasnít been seen in some time.

    The company funding the experiment has a sum of money they spend annually on scientific research, mainly for tax reasons. But the person who reads and approves grants left last year. The last time anybody saw the man, he handed a huge folder to some new kid and said ďmake sure these stay funded.Ē Then he disappeared up a long staircase leading into the sky.

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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #61 on: April 03, 2014, 10:11:16 pm »
Well played Cramulus.
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2014, 12:48:05 pm »
Do you really believe that practice of Christianity is simply mirroring for the sake of 'doing it the way it's always been done' rather than because it meets other needs of the practitioner?

Here's an interesting theory that xenophobic collectivist societies may have developed as a protection against infection:

http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/bugs-like-made-germ-theory-democracy-beliefs-73958/

That's a fascinating article, thanks Net.

An interesting paragraph that popped out to me:

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collectivist cultures tend to be both more xenophobic and more ethnocentric than individualist cultures.

It occurred to me that the USA tends to consider itself individualistic, and yet tends to display a considerable amount of xenophobia.  But, this is drifting off topic.

America likes to believe it's individualist, but it is of course no such thing.  We demand a level of conformity on important matters that is unheard of in Europe (excepting Britian) and Canada.

It's also been my experience that our xenophobia is weak when compared to the real thing as practiced in many other parts of the world. We're actually (sadly) a pretty tolerant bunch, comparatively.
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2014, 01:39:57 pm »
I got an actual sense of WHOA from reading that. 10/10, much better than the original. Permission to repost next time I see the monkey meme on Facebook?

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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2014, 06:11:38 pm »
Excellent re-frame Cram!

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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #65 on: April 06, 2014, 02:40:55 am »
Yeah, that was pretty dope!
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #66 on: April 07, 2014, 07:40:40 am »
That was awesome!
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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #67 on: March 07, 2018, 08:58:33 pm »




Here's MY version:






The Monkey Experiment
   Thereís a famous experiment where they keep a bunch of monkeys in a room for an indefinite amount of time. Thereís a big white staircase leading up out of the room. Every time a monkey climbs to the top of the staircase, he gets blasted back down the stairs with a hose. When this happens, every monkey in the room also gets blasted with water. This makes them very angry.

    Soon, the monkeys have figured it out: beat the shit out of any monkey that starts to climb the stairs. Thatís the new rule.

    At some point, they remove a monkey and send in a new one. He learns the rule quickly: donít climb the stairs. And if weíre beating somebody up, join in. One by one, they replace each monkey with a new one who has to learn the rule.

    At some point they can turn off the hose. The monkeys will reliably prevent escape. Policing the stairs has become a cultural norm. Eventually, they have this population of monkeys who are trained to beat up any monkey that tries to escape, but donít even understand why.

    The experiment is run by interns who are paid in course credit. Occasionally, an intern finishes the semester and leaves. New interns join the team and everybody explains how to feed the monkeys and how to record the data. But at this point, none of the interns are from the original group, none of them have met the scientists leading this project. Most of the interns donít fully understand the point of the experiment.

    The scientist who began the experiment left long ago. Other researchers were assigned to the project by an administrator in order to keep this valuable experiment running. None of the remaining scientists are actually authors of the paper, or even understand what itís about. 

    The administrator supervising the project isnít terribly involved with it. He just prolongs the experiment because itís his departmentís main source of funding. But he didnít begin this project, he just inherited it from his predecessor, who is on a leave of absence and hasnít been seen in some time.

    The company funding the experiment has a sum of money they spend annually on scientific research, mainly for tax reasons. But the person who reads and approves grants left last year. The last time anybody saw the man, he handed a huge folder to some new kid and said ďmake sure these stay funded.Ē Then he disappeared up a long staircase leading into the sky.

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Re: Experiments with monkeys
« Reply #68 on: March 08, 2018, 02:05:48 am »
I like how underneath there's clickbait scaremongery links to articles about protecting yourself from manipulation.Like, t

he articles on the other side ought to just say "don't follow clickbait links dumbass"
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