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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2014, 06:45:33 am »
No evidence of thinking about the children ITT

You're right of course. I'm disgusted at myself. What say we imprison them all, pre-emtively. To protect them from the inevitable gateway to meth?

It's the only right way  to protect our assets.
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2014, 06:46:58 am »
I mildly wish I was privy to a "preventionist" forum so I could see what shrill denial screeching is happening about this.
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2014, 08:57:22 am »
My bet is that they wouldn't even be aware these stories existed.

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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2014, 06:38:50 am »
Because all their assets are bad, bad, bad, and bad.
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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2014, 06:24:25 pm »
My bet is that they wouldn't even be aware these stories existed.

That's a depressing thought. Their bubble excludes facts that run counter to their agenda.

And now that you say it, that's almost certainly the case.
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2014, 07:52:25 pm »
Its like that NYT article I posted on FB...academic and disciplinary/work field bubbles are even more likely than social networking and political ones.

I mean, at least sizeable amounts of both Republicans and Democrats disagree with the Drug War.

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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2014, 02:11:45 am »
Its like that NYT article I posted on FB...academic and disciplinary/work field bubbles are even more likely than social networking and political ones.

I mean, at least sizeable amounts of both Republicans and Democrats disagree with the Drug War.

I've definitely noticed the academic bubbles... behavioral economists totally recreating research that was done by psychologists in the 50's and 60's, and calling it "groundbreaking".
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2014, 07:43:50 pm »
A clean, open-and-shut Rastafarian Jury Nullification?

Why yes, yes it is. The peanut gallery may continue to wail and nash their teeth, if it really makes them feel better.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/doug-darrell-marijuana-jury-nullification_n_1890824.html
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2014, 07:46:22 pm »
A clean, open-and-shut Rastafarian Jury Nullification?

Why yes, yes it is. The peanut gallery may continue to wail and nash their teeth, if it really makes them feel better.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/doug-darrell-marijuana-jury-nullification_n_1890824.html

Amazing.  Actual justice.
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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2014, 07:47:15 am »
It seems worth noting that that tale is 2 years old. A couple of quick searches and I can't find any updates but I've not heard about this Jury nullification law either. I'm guessing that got beaten to shit in the past couple of years.
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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2014, 08:30:26 am »
Hmm.

Who's ready for some laughs?

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That's what bailed out 59-year-old Doug Darrell. Darrell is a piano-tuner and harp manufacturer from a rural New Hampshire hamlet. Darrell's turn in the criminal justice system began unluckily: A National Guard helicopter flying over his house in 2009 spotted some pot plants in his backyard, leading to his arrest and prosecution on felony marijuana charges.

But then things swung his way. First, he had a member of the Free State Project on his jury. Members of the FSP want to start a new libertarian society in the Granite State, and this particular Free Stater actively lobbied her fellow jurors to vote to acquit.

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Second, the judge in this case instructed jurors prior to deliberations that they had the tool of jury nullification at their disposal. This is very significant. Usually, a judge tells jurors that in fact nullification is not in their power. "Judges in most states, including California, tell juries they have no power to disregard the law," the Chronicle's Bob Egelko reported earlier this summer.

They have a "third", but I suspect that a picture is a lot more telling:

http://www.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2012/09/21/jury-nullification-does-work-if-youre-a-white-rastafarian

Crazy woman on the jury, crazy judge and it saves a white guy. I can't help wonder how much these people would have helped the chap if his ethnic background was different.

So it's certainly American Justice, no doubt about that.
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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2014, 03:12:47 pm »
Oh definitely :P. But, note that it's been tried before by white Rastafarians. They mention California, so that would be Eddy Lepp's case... the Feds really didn't like Eddy. Eddy cited scripture (Rasta) which instructed him to grow it, but to also offer at least 1/3 of his land for others to grow on. So.. 32,000 plants wasn't something the Feds could look past.
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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2014, 06:47:03 pm »
Jury nullification isn't really a law so much as a natural feature of the jury system. The main question is whether the judge or attorneys can instruct the jury about it.

It's kind of a dumb question though, since telling the jury that they don't have that power is...lying, and telling them they do have the power is self-evident, but prejudicial.

The history of jury nullification isn't all rainbows and roses, though. Think juries in the 50's in Bumblefuck, Mississippi deciding the case of a white man accused of burning a black church, for instance.
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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2014, 06:52:36 am »
It's like someone opened a can of goofy goobers up in here.
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« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2014, 01:43:22 pm »
But how can this be?  RWHN assured me, quoting a very impressive study from two RAND Corporation experts that legalising marijuana in the USA would have no impact on the Mexican cartels?

Oh, it is having an impact.  3 to be specific. 

1. Some are adjusting and switching to heroin.  Heroin being grown by Mexican farmers who were growing marijuana.  All of this cheap heroin flooding the streets in the US?  Yep, you can trace it, in part, back to marijuana legalization. 

2.  The above said, the cartels still have plenty of business in Colorado, they are simply undercutting the taxed price and still doing quite well for themselves.

3.  Their main competition now is Colorado itself, which has essentially become the marijuana black market for the rest of the country.  A lot of Colorado weed is flowing from the border to 40 of the 50 states.  So Colorado has become for weed, what Florida is for the illegal pill trade.

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