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I can't help but disagree with parts of the BIP interpretation.
I'm not sure why, but it seems too constricting. there seem to be too many "rules" for me. however, I do believe that morality is a construct, and one of the first things I do when I feel boxed in is (try) to throw out all moralities for a day or so, and rebuild concepts of "don't do this" and "do this" for myself.
my problem is ignoring others' reactions. it seems to me that all of my personal "rules" come from the concept of not fucking shit up for others. but how far do I need to look out to make sure I'm not ruining anything for someone else? perhaps the best approach is "do what you want, then deal with the consequences".
in otherwords, I say to myself, how do I hedonism? or is hedonism the path for me? is my discordia inherently hedonistic? is discordianism in general inherently hedonisitic?
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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2014, 03:13:47 am »
Disagreeing with things is a good sign that you may be thinking.

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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2014, 05:07:47 am »
I can't help but disagree with parts of the BIP interpretation.
I'm not sure why, but it seems too constricting. there seem to be too many "rules" for me. .

Right, you're out of the club.

Incidentally, there is nothing to be gained by throwing your morals out.  There's a lot to lose, though.
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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2014, 09:57:35 am »
Hedonism is lame.
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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2014, 01:06:36 pm »
I can't help but disagree with parts of the BIP interpretation.
I'm not sure why, but it seems too constricting. there seem to be too many "rules" for me. .

Right, you're out of the club.

Incidentally, there is nothing to be gained by throwing your morals out.  There's a lot to lose, though.
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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2014, 05:45:35 pm »
What's funny?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
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 "Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2014, 06:45:37 pm »
What's funny?
Your first line. Obviously, I agree with the second.
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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2014, 07:25:13 pm »
You seem to be asking us to be your ethical gurus.

If that's the case, I'd rather be paid up front, before I start giving detailed advice.

Or, you could try doing some research on your own on the topic.  Try Epicureanism, the resources are well out of copyright.  Then try  Aristippus of Cyrene.  Then contrast them with differing philosophies from the same period.

Don't expect us to just put it all out on a plate for you.

Also,

is discordianism in general inherently hedonisitic?

no.

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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2014, 07:30:30 pm »
If you're looking for a moral code, I might suggest Mark Twain, Mohammed Ali, or (on this board) Nigel and/or Paesor...Though you won't get them to play guru, you can certainly pay attention to the way they speak and behave.
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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2014, 02:26:56 am »
Oh I see. You want it all laid out in you nice and simple. You want a word to wrap it all up in too. "Hedonism." "Existentialism" "Bisexuality". Something to put on your facebook profile. A T-Shirt to buy. No No No. You dont get it bub. You just dont get it. "Discordia" isnt something that anyone created, its somethign that we DISCOVERED. "Discordia" isnt a list of a does and donts. Discordia isnt a fucking fashion statement. It isnt something you build an identity around. Discordia is just the way things are.

When an alien with arms growing from its shoulders fries your car with mind beams and leaves your body riddled with tumors. Thats Discordia.
When you write a murder thriller, and suddenly people in the news start dying in ways VERY similiar to what you wrote. And black vans park outside your home, and your work, and your BDSM club at all hours. And strange men in suits with earpieces dig straight into your septic tank and empty its contents while youre on a bussiness trip. Thats Discordia.

When one day you open a book that youve read probably a thousand times, a picture book, to a random page. But its a page you dont recognize. A page that says strange things, that shows and talks about events that never happened as if they were historical fact. Then later you comb through each and every page of that book looking for it again but its not there. Thats Discordia.

When your alphabet soup starts to warn you about natural disasters, and then you realize it isnt alphabet soup its spaghetti-os. Thats Discordia.

When you pass by a schoolyard and its full of children chanting songs and rhymes. But you dont remember these rhymes from when you went to preschool. Just who is this "Cthulhu" fella anyways? And when did human children get so many scales? Thats discordia.

Discordia isnt a guide to ethical living so much as a guide to SURVIVING. Not just this life, but the next, and the ones after that. Discordia isnt so much a house built on a rock, as a house built on a hidden 10 foot thick concrete bomb shelter stocked with spaghetti-os and dragon dildos. Surviving is just the first step, once you master that you can move on to THRIVING. To exploiting the rapid decay of what less enlightened primates call "reality" for fun and profit.

But that takes a special kind of character, someone who can write a Shakespearean Sonnet and assassinate the head of a Mexican Cartel at the same time. Someone who can win a celebrity cooking show while tripping on 700mgs of delerients. And, Im gonna be honest with you kid, you just arent cut out for it. While youre trying to figure out what prepackaged box to fit your ethics of day to day human interactions into, people like Hirley0 are trying to figure out the game theory of stock trading with multi-dimensional hyper advanced A.I.s. While you wonder if you should be a Hedonist or not, people like Nigel are writing advice columns on the etiquette atemporal sexual trysts. While youre trying to pay the rent, Faust is trying to pay server bills in 6 different universes. Politics may seem clear cut to you, but poor Von lives in a timeline where Hitler won WW2. There hes considered a far left nutjob, and then he has to come here and have everyone call him a Klansman.

So for now, focus on making it to the end of the day, fuck, making it to the end of this post. Youve gotten yourself way over your fucking head just coming to this forum. Like it or not, by associating yourself with "Discordia" youve painted a giant fucking target on your ass in astral space. In certain circles of Elder Monstrosity Discordians are considered a delicacy. Faeries and poltergeists of all stripes cant resist putting a bunch of self described "Pranksters" in their place. In general, the agents of High Weird dont cotton to a bunch of uppity 4D primates running around invoking Ass Demons and getting all up in their business.
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 After a few months of "Discordianism" if youre still alive or capable of rational thought, then we can start navel gazing about ethics. But for now, Id suggest buying an automatic weapon, a wooden stake, upgrading your life insurance plan and doing drugs. LOTS of them.

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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2014, 02:35:26 am »
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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2014, 03:43:06 am »
Yup.  That was awesome.

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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2014, 11:40:36 am »
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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2014, 12:09:50 pm »
I can't help but disagree with parts of the BIP interpretation.
I'm not sure why, but it seems too constricting. there seem to be too many "rules" for me. however, I do believe that morality is a construct, and one of the first things I do when I feel boxed in is (try) to throw out all moralities for a day or so, and rebuild concepts of "don't do this" and "do this" for myself.
my problem is ignoring others' reactions. it seems to me that all of my personal "rules" come from the concept of not fucking shit up for others. but how far do I need to look out to make sure I'm not ruining anything for someone else? perhaps the best approach is "do what you want, then deal with the consequences".
in otherwords, I say to myself, how do I hedonism? or is hedonism the path for me? is my discordia inherently hedonistic? is discordianism in general inherently hedonisitic?

Please explain which rules you mean.

And as for the realization that social norms are the result of people not wanting to ruin someone else's good time, well... welcome to society.

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Re: Shown here: zer0n blabbing about his discordia to nobody in particular.
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2014, 08:32:44 pm »
Oh I see. You want it all laid out in you nice and simple. You want a word to wrap it all up in too. "Hedonism." "Existentialism" "Bisexuality". Something to put on your facebook profile. A T-Shirt to buy. No No No. You dont get it bub. You just dont get it. "Discordia" isnt something that anyone created, its somethign that we DISCOVERED. "Discordia" isnt a list of a does and donts. Discordia isnt a fucking fashion statement. It isnt something you build an identity around. Discordia is just the way things are.

When an alien with arms growing from its shoulders fries your car with mind beams and leaves your body riddled with tumors. Thats Discordia.
When you write a murder thriller, and suddenly people in the news start dying in ways VERY similiar to what you wrote. And black vans park outside your home, and your work, and your BDSM club at all hours. And strange men in suits with earpieces dig straight into your septic tank and empty its contents while youre on a bussiness trip. Thats Discordia.

When one day you open a book that youve read probably a thousand times, a picture book, to a random page. But its a page you dont recognize. A page that says strange things, that shows and talks about events that never happened as if they were historical fact. Then later you comb through each and every page of that book looking for it again but its not there. Thats Discordia.

When your alphabet soup starts to warn you about natural disasters, and then you realize it isnt alphabet soup its spaghetti-os. Thats Discordia.

When you pass by a schoolyard and its full of children chanting songs and rhymes. But you dont remember these rhymes from when you went to preschool. Just who is this "Cthulhu" fella anyways? And when did human children get so many scales? Thats discordia.

Discordia isnt a guide to ethical living so much as a guide to SURVIVING. Not just this life, but the next, and the ones after that. Discordia isnt so much a house built on a rock, as a house built on a hidden 10 foot thick concrete bomb shelter stocked with spaghetti-os and dragon dildos. Surviving is just the first step, once you master that you can move on to THRIVING. To exploiting the rapid decay of what less enlightened primates call "reality" for fun and profit.

But that takes a special kind of character, someone who can write a Shakespearean Sonnet and assassinate the head of a Mexican Cartel at the same time. Someone who can win a celebrity cooking show while tripping on 700mgs of delerients. And, Im gonna be honest with you kid, you just arent cut out for it. While youre trying to figure out what prepackaged box to fit your ethics of day to day human interactions into, people like Hirley0 are trying to figure out the game theory of stock trading with multi-dimensional hyper advanced A.I.s. While you wonder if you should be a Hedonist or not, people like Nigel are writing advice columns on the etiquette atemporal sexual trysts. While youre trying to pay the rent, Faust is trying to pay server bills in 6 different universes. Politics may seem clear cut to you, but poor Von lives in a timeline where Hitler won WW2. There hes considered a far left nutjob, and then he has to come here and have everyone call him a Klansman.

So for now, focus on making it to the end of the day, fuck, making it to the end of this post. Youve gotten yourself way over your fucking head just coming to this forum. Like it or not, by associating yourself with "Discordia" youve painted a giant fucking target on your ass in astral space. In certain circles of Elder Monstrosity Discordians are considered a delicacy. Faeries and poltergeists of all stripes cant resist putting a bunch of self described "Pranksters" in their place. In general, the agents of High Weird dont cotton to a bunch of uppity 4D primates running around invoking Ass Demons and getting all up in their business.
The only reason were still here is because certain powerful entities, JHVH1, "Bob", Xenu, in particular the one we call "Eris", seem to have extended a small degree of protection to us. As to why, no one is really sure, some think they find us amusing, the same way we like to look at videos of cats doing silly things. Maybe its from the kindness of their hearts, or the closest emotion they have to "kindness". Others suggest that maybe theyre just keeping us around to fleece us for all weve got and then throw us to the wolves. Who can say for sure.

 After a few months of "Discordianism" if youre still alive or capable of rational thought, then we can start navel gazing about ethics. But for now, Id suggest buying an automatic weapon, a wooden stake, upgrading your life insurance plan and doing drugs. LOTS of them.


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