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Re: The Annals Of Improbable Research
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2014, 01:01:10 am »
It was explained to me today that low-volting a motor won't burn it up, it will just "make it go slower".

I kinda had one of those Mesozoic Nigel grins going on, and the fact that anyone got out alive is a testament to my kind & peaceful nature.

Whaaaaat

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Which?  The ignorance of my coworkers or your smile?
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Re: The Annals Of Improbable Research
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2014, 06:31:39 am »
It was explained to me today that low-volting a motor won't burn it up, it will just "make it go slower".

I kinda had one of those Mesozoic Nigel grins going on, and the fact that anyone got out alive is a testament to my kind & peaceful nature.

Whaaaaat

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Which?  The ignorance of my coworkers or your smile?

Your co-workers.

I rather like the bit about my smile.
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Re: The Annals Of Improbable Research
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2014, 09:39:37 am »
I believe that is true of DC motors...
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Re: The Annals Of Improbable Research
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2014, 01:01:05 pm »
I believe that is true of DC motors...

We don't have a single DC motor in the plant, and my coworkers aren't aware of their existence.
Well, that's hardly my fault.  I was just doing what I do, doing my little dance, singing my little song, you know?  And then Hirley0 got on the dance floor and said

SHAKE THAT
First ^  Then V

And I did.  I didn't feel like I had any choice.  Between P-Funk and Hirley0, I became the man reptillian menace I am today.

Bootsy Collins did this to me.

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Re: The Annals Of Improbable Research
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2014, 01:03:55 pm »
Here's some stuff, Rong:  http://www.electrical4us.com/speed-control-of-dc-motor/

But we don't have those.  We have 3 phase t-frame motors.  Bog standard shit.  A few VFDs, which seem to be causing the confusion, as my colleagues are having trouble distinguishing between voltage and frequency.
Well, that's hardly my fault.  I was just doing what I do, doing my little dance, singing my little song, you know?  And then Hirley0 got on the dance floor and said

SHAKE THAT
First ^  Then V

And I did.  I didn't feel like I had any choice.  Between P-Funk and Hirley0, I became the man reptillian menace I am today.

Bootsy Collins did this to me.

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Re: The Annals Of Improbable Research
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2014, 02:21:25 pm »
yeah - we have almost exclusively 3 Phase AC motors and use VFD's where speed control is needed.  We do have a few DC motors in some high torque applications, I don't mess with them much, but they are also on drives (albeit not Frequency drives) - I thought they controlled speed by varying the field voltage, but maybe it is field current?  Honestly, as long as the motor does what I tell it to do, I don't really care how the controller gets it done.
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Re: The Annals Of Improbable Research
« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2014, 02:49:23 pm »
yeah - we have almost exclusively 3 Phase AC motors and use VFD's where speed control is needed.  We do have a few DC motors in some high torque applications, I don't mess with them much, but they are also on drives (albeit not Frequency drives) - I thought they controlled speed by varying the field voltage, but maybe it is field current?  Honestly, as long as the motor does what I tell it to do, I don't really care how the controller gets it done.

The link I posted shows how it's done on DC motors.

An inverter or VFD changes the frequency, which has the same effect but doesn't cause the amps to climb.
Well, that's hardly my fault.  I was just doing what I do, doing my little dance, singing my little song, you know?  And then Hirley0 got on the dance floor and said

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First ^  Then V

And I did.  I didn't feel like I had any choice.  Between P-Funk and Hirley0, I became the man reptillian menace I am today.

Bootsy Collins did this to me.

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Re: The Annals Of Improbable Research
« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2014, 10:16:00 pm »
Ok, I'm not an engineer, but even I know that can't possibly be right.

 :weary:

Lower voltage, amps go up.  Resistance follows amps, heat follows resistance, motor goes crispy.

Ohm's Law, 1st year apprentice shit. 

However, These People didn't do an apprenticeship.  The people in question have 1) chemistry and 2) marketing degrees.  Which means they're smarter and know everything, while we oafs step on our knuckles and make grunting and whistling noises.
I get the impression you don't have a lot of fans there.

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Re: The Annals Of Improbable Research
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2015, 01:26:00 am »
Sorry i'm late, did someone say Annal?  :fnord:
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Re: The Annals Of Improbable Research
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2015, 01:45:42 am »
Sorry i'm late, did someone say Annal?  :fnord:

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Well, that's hardly my fault.  I was just doing what I do, doing my little dance, singing my little song, you know?  And then Hirley0 got on the dance floor and said

SHAKE THAT
First ^  Then V

And I did.  I didn't feel like I had any choice.  Between P-Funk and Hirley0, I became the man reptillian menace I am today.

Bootsy Collins did this to me.