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Unlimited Protest Fail Thread
« on: December 11, 2014, 08:08:05 pm »
Since I foresee many, many more of these in the future, and none of our existing threads quite fit...

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/10/peru-press-charges-greenpeace-nazca-lines-stunt

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The activists had entered a strictly prohibited area beside the figure of a hummingbird among the lines, the culture ministry said, and they had laid down big yellow cloth letters reading “Time for Change! The Future is Renewable” as the UN climate talks began in Peru’s capital.

“This has been done without any respect for our laws. It was done in the middle of the night. They went ahead and stepped on our hummingbird, and looking at the pictures we can see there’s very severe damage,” Castillo said. “Nobody can go on these lines without permission – not even the president of Peru!”

Greenpeace want to protest climate change, do so by causing irreparable damage to an ancient national monument, which makes sure the last thing anyone will be talking about regarding it is any point they might have had.

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Re: Unlimited Protest Fail Thread
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2014, 08:25:18 pm »
Since I foresee many, many more of these in the future, and none of our existing threads quite fit...

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/10/peru-press-charges-greenpeace-nazca-lines-stunt

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The activists had entered a strictly prohibited area beside the figure of a hummingbird among the lines, the culture ministry said, and they had laid down big yellow cloth letters reading “Time for Change! The Future is Renewable” as the UN climate talks began in Peru’s capital.

“This has been done without any respect for our laws. It was done in the middle of the night. They went ahead and stepped on our hummingbird, and looking at the pictures we can see there’s very severe damage,” Castillo said. “Nobody can go on these lines without permission – not even the president of Peru!”

Greenpeace want to protest climate change, do so by causing irreparable damage to an ancient national monument, which makes sure the last thing anyone will be talking about regarding it is any point they might have had.

:facepalm:

Wow, it is completely unfuckingreal to me that they managed to plan this out and do it without anyone, at any point, looking it up and saying "hey this is a fragile and extremely significant archaeological site and cultural icon... maybe this isn't a good idea?"
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Unlimited Protest Fail Thread
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2014, 08:28:12 pm »
Right?

They chose the one example at the site which had absolutely no damage whatsoever, too. Which implies to me (though they haven't said so) that they deliberately targeted the one which would be most at risk from having a bunch of people traipse all over it in the dark laying out blankets.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2014, 08:35:53 pm »
People who believe they are doing unquestionable right, seem to often think they can do no wrong. 

Greenpeace and PETA are both guilty of this.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2014, 08:54:59 pm »
People who believe they are doing unquestionable right, seem to often think they can do no wrong. 

Greenpeace and PETA are both guilty of this.

That's a really good way of putting it. I see it in other people and organizations, too. It's kind of the "but it's for a good cause, how can it be wrong?" mentality.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2014, 08:58:44 pm »
I think they severely underestimated how fragile the Nazca lines are.  From what I can see, the way they went about it was intended to minimise the damage, but they didn't realise just being there could cause irreversible damage.

Of course, you should remember a lot of the information about how fragile the Nazca lines are is coming from the Peruvian government and not academic scholars, and the Peruvian government should not exactly be treated as an uninterested and neutral observer in this whole thing.

I mean, I've passed sites in Peru that are complete biohazards.  The Nazca lines only get special treatment because of tourism.

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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2014, 09:26:35 pm »
I think they severely underestimated how fragile the Nazca lines are.  From what I can see, the way they went about it was intended to minimise the damage, but they didn't realise just being there could cause irreversible damage.

Of course, you should remember a lot of the information about how fragile the Nazca lines are is coming from the Peruvian government and not academic scholars, and the Peruvian government should not exactly be treated as an uninterested and neutral observer in this whole thing.

I mean, I've passed sites in Peru that are complete biohazards.  The Nazca lines only get special treatment because of tourism.

I did a quick academic search and the desert there is remarkably fragile. The only reason the lines haven't been obliterated by weather is due to unusual geography that protects them from wind, and the lack of heavy rain.

I kinda feel like if it was that easy for me to confirm that information, these fuckers could too.

It reminds me of this, only a lot stupider: http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/watch-ex-scout-leaders-topple-rock-formation-at-utahs-goblin-valley/
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2014, 09:32:23 pm »
I think they severely underestimated how fragile the Nazca lines are.  From what I can see, the way they went about it was intended to minimise the damage, but they didn't realise just being there could cause irreversible damage.

Of course, you should remember a lot of the information about how fragile the Nazca lines are is coming from the Peruvian government and not academic scholars, and the Peruvian government should not exactly be treated as an uninterested and neutral observer in this whole thing.

I mean, I've passed sites in Peru that are complete biohazards.  The Nazca lines only get special treatment because of tourism.

I did a quick academic search and the desert there is remarkably fragile. The only reason the lines haven't been obliterated by weather is due to unusual geography that protects them from wind, and the lack of heavy rain.

I kinda feel like if it was that easy for me to confirm that information, these fuckers could too.

It reminds me of this, only a lot stupider: http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/watch-ex-scout-leaders-topple-rock-formation-at-utahs-goblin-valley/

Wow. I fully expected the toppling to be a mistake. I'm so naïve.
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2014, 09:33:59 pm »
I think they severely underestimated how fragile the Nazca lines are.  From what I can see, the way they went about it was intended to minimise the damage, but they didn't realise just being there could cause irreversible damage.

Of course, you should remember a lot of the information about how fragile the Nazca lines are is coming from the Peruvian government and not academic scholars, and the Peruvian government should not exactly be treated as an uninterested and neutral observer in this whole thing.

I mean, I've passed sites in Peru that are complete biohazards.  The Nazca lines only get special treatment because of tourism.

I did a quick academic search and the desert there is remarkably fragile. The only reason the lines haven't been obliterated by weather is due to unusual geography that protects them from wind, and the lack of heavy rain.

I kinda feel like if it was that easy for me to confirm that information, these fuckers could too.

It reminds me of this, only a lot stupider: http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/watch-ex-scout-leaders-topple-rock-formation-at-utahs-goblin-valley/

Wow. I fully expected the toppling to be a mistake. I'm so naïve.

It's a little shocking how many assholes there are in the world.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2014, 09:41:36 pm »
I think if they'd pulled this stunt somewhere that wouldn't cause outrage, we'd never have heard about it. Well played Greenpeace, you've learned the first rule of marketing - there's no such thing as bad publicity
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2014, 09:50:31 pm »
there's no such thing as bad publicity

I think it was Lee Harvey Oswald who said that originally.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2014, 09:55:56 am »
I think they severely underestimated how fragile the Nazca lines are.  From what I can see, the way they went about it was intended to minimise the damage, but they didn't realise just being there could cause irreversible damage.

Of course, you should remember a lot of the information about how fragile the Nazca lines are is coming from the Peruvian government and not academic scholars, and the Peruvian government should not exactly be treated as an uninterested and neutral observer in this whole thing.

I mean, I've passed sites in Peru that are complete biohazards.  The Nazca lines only get special treatment because of tourism.

I did a quick academic search and the desert there is remarkably fragile. The only reason the lines haven't been obliterated by weather is due to unusual geography that protects them from wind, and the lack of heavy rain.

I kinda feel like if it was that easy for me to confirm that information, these fuckers could too.

It reminds me of this, only a lot stupider: http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/watch-ex-scout-leaders-topple-rock-formation-at-utahs-goblin-valley/

Wow. I fully expected the toppling to be a mistake. I'm so naïve.


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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2014, 11:31:08 am »
there's no such thing as bad publicity

I think it was Lee Harvey Oswald who said that originally.


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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2014, 01:07:17 pm »
People who believe they are doing unquestionable right, seem to often think they can do no wrong. 

Greenpeace and PETA are both guilty of this.

It's for The Cause.