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Puns Forbidden in China
« on: December 20, 2014, 08:33:35 pm »
I was trying to research puns in other cultures, and found this.

http://qz.com/304268/why-china-is-now-banning-puns/

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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2014, 08:43:34 pm »
Sometimes, bad regimes do good things.
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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2014, 12:38:42 am »
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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2014, 04:44:28 am »
One good reason to welcome our chinese overlords in 2050.

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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2014, 08:12:49 pm »
I was struck by this line:

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The official line is that the new rules—which ban the use of wordplay in the press, broadcasts, and advertisements—are intended to uphold the sanctity of the Chinese language

Because even if we believe that that really is the reasoning behind it, that's still a pretty bad motivation given that China probably has the most backward-ass language of any noteworthy world power.
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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2014, 09:22:47 pm »
I was struck by this line:

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The official line is that the new rules—which ban the use of wordplay in the press, broadcasts, and advertisements—are intended to uphold the sanctity of the Chinese language

Because even if we believe that that really is the reasoning behind it, that's still a pretty bad motivation given that China probably has the most backward-ass language of any noteworthy world power.

It does, does it? By what standard?

Just the one?
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2014, 09:52:22 pm »
I was struck by this line:

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The official line is that the new rules—which ban the use of wordplay in the press, broadcasts, and advertisements—are intended to uphold the sanctity of the Chinese language

Because even if we believe that that really is the reasoning behind it, that's still a pretty bad motivation given that China probably has the most backward-ass language of any noteworthy world power.

It does, does it? By what standard?

Just the one?

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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2014, 10:09:49 pm »
I was struck by this line:

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The official line is that the new rules—which ban the use of wordplay in the press, broadcasts, and advertisements—are intended to uphold the sanctity of the Chinese language

Because even if we believe that that really is the reasoning behind it, that's still a pretty bad motivation given that China probably has the most backward-ass language of any noteworthy world power.

It does, does it? By what standard?

They don't even have an alphabet!

It wouldn't have to be the latin alphabet; it could just as easily be cyrillic, or greek, or kana or a totally new system, but not having an alphabet at all is backward and makes the language needlessly obtuse.
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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2014, 10:14:08 pm »
I was struck by this line:

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The official line is that the new rules—which ban the use of wordplay in the press, broadcasts, and advertisements—are intended to uphold the sanctity of the Chinese language

Because even if we believe that that really is the reasoning behind it, that's still a pretty bad motivation given that China probably has the most backward-ass language of any noteworthy world power.

It does, does it? By what standard?

Just the one?

Becose commie slashes lines, primitive like wall paintings, duh.

 :lol: I am rather hoping he has a better explanation, but I fear you may have nailed it.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2014, 10:17:25 pm »
The lack of alphabet doesn't seem to be a problem for people who can read Chinese.
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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2014, 10:17:26 pm »
I was struck by this line:

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The official line is that the new rules—which ban the use of wordplay in the press, broadcasts, and advertisements—are intended to uphold the sanctity of the Chinese language

Because even if we believe that that really is the reasoning behind it, that's still a pretty bad motivation given that China probably has the most backward-ass language of any noteworthy world power.

It does, does it? By what standard?

They don't even have an alphabet!

Oh dear. Yes Johnny, sadly, you nailed it.

So your argument is that because it's hard to learn and different from the Roman alphabet, it's a "backwards-ass" language?

I mean, I'm assuming you're referring to Mandarin specifically, and just disregarding the other 297 languages spoken in China.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2014, 10:18:17 pm »
The lack of alphabet doesn't seem to be a problem for people who can read Chinese.

Yes, but it's hard. Unlike English, which totally has consistent rules and makes sense.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2014, 10:22:03 pm »
The lack of alphabet doesn't seem to be a problem for people who can read Chinese.

Yes, but it's hard. Unlike English, which totally has consistent rules and makes sense.

I know, right? But here's the funny thing about that. There's gotta be some dude in China mocking English for similar reasons. We don't have a proper set of ideograms. We may as well since our spellings are so damn inconsistent.
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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2014, 10:24:02 pm »
I was assuming that the fact there are a huge number of languages spoken in China, but the authorities refuse to acknowledge that their people can't actually talk to one another in favour of pretending there is one universal Chinese language with 'regional dialects' was what he was referring to.

Because it is faintly ridiculous to try and argue there actually is an integrity to be protected when there isn't broad agreement - in practice - across the country about what the language actually is. The notion of a singular Chinese language only really exists as a political construct to try and foster a sense of shared nationhood across such a massive and diverse country.

But honestly, I hope the real reason is just that the authorities hate the fuck out of puns and this is the first step in eradicating their acceptability across the globe.
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Re: Puns Forbidden in China
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2014, 10:24:36 pm »
The lack of alphabet doesn't seem to be a problem for people who can read Chinese.

Yes, but it's hard. Unlike English, which totally has consistent rules and makes sense.

I know, right? But here's the funny thing about that. There's gotta be some dude in China mocking English for similar reasons. We don't have a proper set of ideograms. We may as well since our spellings are so damn inconsistent.

As well as our tenses, plurals, pronunciation, and grammatical rules.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”