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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2015, 03:55:40 am »
Upon further information, yes.  Nigel is right, and that woman did not need to be demonized.  Apparently, even the club has weighed in and said everything went well.

I think, personally, that she didn't need to be demonized in a popular national publication even if she had been painfully clueless about how strip clubs worked. Even if the evening had been a clusterfuck and the strippers felt undertipped, which is something that happens all the time without anyone organizing their friends to do it.

I don't think there was at any point any valid reason for any person with even a shred of journalistic integrity to personally humiliate a random non-public-figure person for their party planning. Unless their party planning involved doing something terrible to other people, and frankly, underestimating the tip doesn't even come close to falling into that category.

Could the email have validly stimulated the writer to write a piece about how to plan a party at a strip club? Sure, it could have. And it could have even used some "don'ts" inspired by the email. Of course, a responsible journalist STILL would have checked facts... but that's not what Jezebel is all about. Not anymore.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2015, 03:13:17 pm »
I think it's possibly as simple as population.

More and more people requiring less and less intelligence and education are bringing both cash and content to the internet. This is in part because of the ease built into wireless devices and social media services.  In short the masses, the mob is becoming the dominant force. This will likely increase over time.



 :lol: very true!

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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2015, 03:46:28 pm »

It really is. Essentially the internet has become 1/3 malicious gossip, 1/3 rumor mill, and 1/3 echo chamber.

I dunno.  My kids and all their friends use it in different, better ways.  But they don't go to tumblr or facebook, as those sites don't offer the activities they are after (videoconferencing, bad movies, etc).

THAT BEING SAID:  All the places I go are full of arse biscuits.  PD not so much, but Facebook is as dysfunctional as a Kentucky romance, and tumblr is outright awful.  And Jezebel seems to be going full tumblr.

Also, political news sites on both sides of the aisle have reverted to yellow journalism, to the point where I automatically read the text of the actual bills they discuss, and laugh at their analysis. 

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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2015, 05:20:26 pm »
A bit off topic, but now I'm wondering if there might not be a sort of bias inherent in heavy Internet users. You sub consciously believe that your experience online must be much like everyone else's.

One could perhaps extract a deeper bias more fit for media generally and extreme Internet users especially. You begin to believe that the information you are soaking in is how the world actually is.

Somehow I think the younger ones DO seem to grasp the difference better.
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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2015, 06:05:53 pm »
As an aside, and almost completely tangential, the "Kitchenette" sub-section of Jezebel is pretty good.  Mostly because it doesn't really do identity politics.

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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2015, 06:09:48 pm »
As an aside, and almost completely tangential, the "Kitchenette" sub-section of Jezebel is pretty good.  Mostly because it doesn't really do identity politics.

For now.

By this time next year, they'll be writing things about sous vide privilege.

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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2015, 01:29:41 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obt32tD7nDI
tangentially related, plus i'm noticing the humor is so hit and miss that i'm half wondering if this is less of a skit and more of a bulwark for exactly this kind of shit.
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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2015, 01:30:32 am »
Facebook is as dysfunctional as a Kentucky romance

This is all I saw.  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2015, 01:53:58 am »

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“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2015, 09:02:13 am »
I'm not very happy with this one, may come back to it later
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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2015, 07:12:37 pm »
For example, tipping the bathroom and coat attendants? I don't think that kind of strip club even exists in Portland.

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They don't.

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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2015, 08:13:13 pm »
The Gawker network has recently exceeded their already low standards when they "outed" a senior executive in a competitor company as hiring a gay porn star.

The guy isn't really in any way a public figure.  There is no clear indication he was cheating on his wife, she was unaware of his sexual interests or anything of the like.  It just looks like yet another sideswipe at a competing firm "lololol he gay".  And from a supposedly "progressive" media outlet, no less.

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Re: Jezebel magazine and Mean-Girl Feminism
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2015, 09:08:43 pm »
The Gawker network has recently exceeded their already low standards when they "outed" a senior executive in a competitor company as hiring a gay porn star.

The guy isn't really in any way a public figure.  There is no clear indication he was cheating on his wife, she was unaware of his sexual interests or anything of the like.  It just looks like yet another sideswipe at a competing firm "lololol he gay".  And from a supposedly "progressive" media outlet, no less.

Wow, that's fucked up. Way to go all Fox News, Gawker.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”