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Re: UNLIMITED 2016 Starting Early With Batshittery Thread.
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2015, 10:22:54 pm »
You love it.  You know you love it.

I don't love what that squirrelly fucker did.

But I do love watching 19 people run into the ring 9 months before the fight is even announced, to beat the mortal shit out of themselves.

 

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Re: UNLIMITED 2016 Starting Early With Batshittery Thread.
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2015, 11:57:39 pm »
So far it looks like Hillary has this in the bag.

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Re: UNLIMITED 2016 Starting Early With Batshittery Thread.
« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2015, 03:07:31 am »
The whole Duggar thing is fucked up beyond ALL belief, on so many levels. I won't even address it anywhere but this forum, because I've seen what happens if people get whiff that you might be taking anything other than the prescribed line on the subject; they go chicken on you, they think they see a red spot, and the next thing you know there's eighteen of them climbing over each other to try to pick all the meat off your facebones.

But I will say something here. I have actually tried really hard to avoid reading about it, because the last thing I need at the moment is to be horrified by nightmares that call up my own childhood. However, I did end up reading about it, because if I'm going to have to have this shit in my head, I want to know what actually happened because believe me, it's better than whatever my mind will invent in the absence of knowledge.

So basically, this kid who is perhaps 13-14 at the time when this started, is largely unsupervised in a family too big for parents to even start to spend adequate time with each child, in a repressive religion where sexuality isn't discussed other than as a shameful thing you don't do outside of marriage and procreation. So the little fuck starts groping the breasts of sleeping girls in his family, and also sometimes their crotches. He gets told on, and the dad tells their pastor, and instead of sending the kid to, say, a COUNSELOR or getting him any kind of actual help, they made him say he was sorry and send him to go spend the summer working on a deck with some asshole who is currently serving 56 years on a child porn possession conviction.

14-15 years later, it all comes to light, and everyone is supposed to hate the kid for being a pedophile. Because that's the right thing to do, right?

I would put money on him having been groped by someone higher up the chain. That doesn't excuse pedophilia, but I'm not at all convinced that a repressed 14-year-old is a pedophile.

Who's the villain, here? I would say that dad and pastor are the villains. Not to mention the creep they sent him to stay the summer with.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2015, 04:15:16 am »
Yeah, with that timeframe, the responsibilty seems to lay with the parents and other "authority" figures.

That kid needed ounseling then, and needs a SHITLOAD of counseling now.  They all do, really.

My anger, as before, is with the parents who decided to go down this stupid, stupid path.

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« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2015, 11:32:57 am »
Yeah, there is definitely more going on here.  14 year olds don't sexually abuse younger kids without some pretty fucked up things having happened to them, too.

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Re: UNLIMITED 2016 Starting Early With Batshittery Thread.
« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2015, 05:18:38 pm »
More interestingly, the initial police investigation into Duggan was ordered to be destroyed by a judge with political connections to Huckabee.  District Court Judge Stacey Zimmerman has a long history of making...questionable rulings which are later overturned.  She also was appointed by Huckabee to a couple of state level committees in the late 90s.

We know the Duggans have some juice in local politics, and are helping Huckabee's 2008 Presidential run.

And now we have a judge friend for Huckabee ordering investigation papers to be destroyed.

This stinks.
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« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2015, 09:13:54 pm »
"Those who have enjoyed revealing this long ago sins in order to discredit the Duggar family have actually revealed their own insensitive bloodthirst, for there was no consideration of the fact that the victims wanted this to be left in the past and ultimately a judge had the information on file destroyed_not to protect Josh, but the innocent victims," Huckabee wrote.

well he went right for the heart of the matter didn't he.

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Re: UNLIMITED 2016 Starting Early With Batshittery Thread.
« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2015, 08:15:05 am »
In somewhat related news, Dolly Parton has been kicked out of America™ for not hating on Gays.

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« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2015, 10:21:56 am »
"Christians who judge LBGT people are sinners".  Damn.  I mean, she aint wrong, and it's always nice to see someone who focuses on the "love thy neighbour" parts of the Bible, but that's a significant lack of word mincing, right there.

And, according to Wikipedia, she is also the godmother of Miley Cyrus.

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Re: UNLIMITED 2016 Starting Early With Batshittery Thread.
« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2015, 01:24:02 pm »
The whole Duggar thing is fucked up beyond ALL belief, on so many levels. I won't even address it anywhere but this forum, because I've seen what happens if people get whiff that you might be taking anything other than the prescribed line on the subject; they go chicken on you, they think they see a red spot, and the next thing you know there's eighteen of them climbing over each other to try to pick all the meat off your facebones.

But I will say something here. I have actually tried really hard to avoid reading about it, because the last thing I need at the moment is to be horrified by nightmares that call up my own childhood. However, I did end up reading about it, because if I'm going to have to have this shit in my head, I want to know what actually happened because believe me, it's better than whatever my mind will invent in the absence of knowledge.

So basically, this kid who is perhaps 13-14 at the time when this started, is largely unsupervised in a family too big for parents to even start to spend adequate time with each child, in a repressive religion where sexuality isn't discussed other than as a shameful thing you don't do outside of marriage and procreation. So the little fuck starts groping the breasts of sleeping girls in his family, and also sometimes their crotches. He gets told on, and the dad tells their pastor, and instead of sending the kid to, say, a COUNSELOR or getting him any kind of actual help, they made him say he was sorry and send him to go spend the summer working on a deck with some asshole who is currently serving 56 years on a child porn possession conviction.

14-15 years later, it all comes to light, and everyone is supposed to hate the kid for being a pedophile. Because that's the right thing to do, right?

I would put money on him having been groped by someone higher up the chain. That doesn't excuse pedophilia, but I'm not at all convinced that a repressed 14-year-old is a pedophile.

Who's the villain, here? I would say that dad and pastor are the villains. Not to mention the creep they sent him to stay the summer with.

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Re: UNLIMITED 2016 Starting Early With Batshittery Thread.
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2015, 08:06:37 pm »
"Christians who judge LBGT people are sinners".  Damn.  I mean, she aint wrong, and it's always nice to see someone who focuses on the "love thy neighbour" parts of the Bible, but that's a significant lack of word mincing, right there.

And, according to Wikipedia, she is also the godmother of Miley Cyrus.

Dolly Parton has never fucked around when expressing her opinions.

Also, apparently she and Miley are close.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: UNLIMITED 2016 Starting Early With Batshittery Thread.
« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2015, 09:30:24 pm »
"Christians who judge LBGT people are sinners".  Damn.  I mean, she aint wrong, and it's always nice to see someone who focuses on the "love thy neighbour" parts of the Bible, but that's a significant lack of word mincing, right there.

And, according to Wikipedia, she is also the godmother of Miley Cyrus.

Dolly Parton has never fucked around when expressing her opinions.

Also, apparently she and Miley are close.

Dolly is all kinds of amazing.
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Re: UNLIMITED 2016 Starting Early With Batshittery Thread.
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2015, 10:09:20 pm »
"Christians who judge LBGT people are sinners".  Damn.  I mean, she aint wrong, and it's always nice to see someone who focuses on the "love thy neighbour" parts of the Bible, but that's a significant lack of word mincing, right there.

And, according to Wikipedia, she is also the godmother of Miley Cyrus.

Dolly Parton has never fucked around when expressing her opinions.

Also, apparently she and Miley are close.

Dolly is all kinds of amazing.

She really is.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: UNLIMITED 2016 Starting Early With Batshittery Thread.
« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2015, 04:20:36 pm »
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/418674/majority-democrats-37-percent-republicans-want-repeal-first-amendment-charles-c-w

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YouGov’s latest research shows that many Americans support making it a criminal offense to make public statements which would stir up hatred against particular groups of people. Americans narrowly support (41%) rather than oppose (37%) criminalizing hate speech, but this conceals a partisan divide. Most Democrats (51%) support criminalizing hate speech, with only 26% opposed. Independents (41% to 35%) and Republicans (47% to 37%) tend to oppose making it illegal to stir up hatred against particular groups. Support for banning hate speech is also particularly strong among racial minorities. 62% of black Americans, and 50% of Hispanics support criminalizing comments which would stir up hatred. White Americans oppose a ban on hate speech 43% to 36%.

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Hate speech laws within a generation. Calling it. Fourth Amendment is dead, First is soon to follow.

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Re: UNLIMITED 2016 Starting Early With Batshittery Thread.
« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2015, 04:48:30 pm »
Yeah, you kind of have to choose, when it comes to speech.  It's either protected or it's not.  I agree with Thurgood Marshall's ruling on free speech vs an overt act, but that's as far as I go.