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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2015, 04:39:14 am »
The reason for this is that it makes your base look like groupies, so nobody else takes you seriously.

Bingo.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2015, 05:23:56 am »
That said, I'd still be surprised if the Dems actually lost.

I mean, the race for the Republicans is going to be between Bush and Trump, and Bush is probably going to win.  Either way, the Dem voters are going to recoil in horror, and I don't think Sanders or Clinton are quite spiteful enough to go independent against each other.

Trump is, however, the government America deserves.  A truly postmodern fascist in a clown suit, like Berlusconi without any redeeming qualities as many coke-filled parties with hookers.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2015, 05:44:14 am »
That said, I'd still be surprised if the Dems actually lost.

I mean, the race for the Republicans is going to be between Bush and Trump, and Bush is probably going to win.  Either way, the Dem voters are going to recoil in horror, and I don't think Sanders or Clinton are quite spiteful enough to go independent against each other.

Trump is, however, the government America deserves.  A truly postmodern fascist in a clown suit, like Berlusconi without any redeeming qualities as many coke-filled parties with hookers.

Hillary Clinton will most likely be the next president, if you look at the numbers.

I have a horrible feeling of dread, though.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2015, 05:55:36 am »
I'm voting for Senator Sanders in the primary.


Former Secretary of State Clinton seems even more towards the middle than Obama is.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2015, 06:00:10 am »
I'm voting for Senator Sanders in the primary.


Former Secretary of State Clinton seems even more towards the middle than Obama is.

I'm voting Sanders because I'm a socialist.

But I'm voting dem no matter who wins the primary.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2015, 07:20:46 am »
That said, I'd still be surprised if the Dems actually lost.

I mean, the race for the Republicans is going to be between Bush and Trump, and Bush is probably going to win.  Either way, the Dem voters are going to recoil in horror, and I don't think Sanders or Clinton are quite spiteful enough to go independent against each other.

Trump is, however, the government America deserves.  A truly postmodern fascist in a clown suit, like Berlusconi without any redeeming qualities as many coke-filled parties with hookers.

YEP.
Im guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk, Charles Wick said. It was very complicated.


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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2015, 07:21:29 am »
Politics has pretty much turned into a race against horror.
Im guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk, Charles Wick said. It was very complicated.


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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2015, 09:15:07 pm »
So when Trump used to be a Dem, was that bullshit... or is THIS bullshit? Or did he legitimately change his views? It's hard for me to give him credit of any sort of authenticity.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2015, 10:36:44 pm »
That's assuming he had consistent views in the first place.  He's been registered with every party at least twice, and despite being a "Democrat" was a strong supporter of Reagan in the 80s,

The only consistent thread I could find with regard to his politics is Israel: he supported pro-Israeli politicians regardless of political party or personal political beliefs. Centrist, conservative or progressive.  Democrats have traditionally been stronger supporter of Israel than the Republicans...the recent rise of the religious right has changed that, but there are still many covert anti-semites in the GOP.

The more conspiratorial Republicans think Trump is running to ensure Hillary wins the election.  I just think that, amazingly, Rick Perry has the right of it and the man has no consistent politics, beyond egomaniacal posturing and demogogic populism.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2015, 11:01:05 pm »
Reddit is supporting Sanders in the same way they supported Ron Paul in 2008.  Ie; with cult-like adoration and general creepiness.

Ron paul is great though. He has his own memes
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2015, 11:12:47 pm »
You know who else had his own memes?  Adolf Hitler, that's who.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2015, 11:15:14 pm »
You know who else had his own memes?  Adolf Hitler, that's who.

Yeah, and im reading a book about him. It's called "look whos back" pretty funny
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2015, 02:51:36 pm »
I sure hope the fact that Sanders is the Tumblr favorite right now doesn't wipe him out.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2015, 11:58:08 pm »
I sure hope the fact that Sanders is the Tumblr favorite right now doesn't wipe him out.

What's going to wipe him out is that he's using the tactics that get you elected "senator from Vermont" to run for "president of the United States".

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2015, 06:33:24 am »
I sure hope the fact that Sanders is the Tumblr favorite right now doesn't wipe him out.

What's going to wipe him out is that he's using the tactics that get you elected "senator from Vermont" to run for "president of the United States".

And Trump is using the tactic of being a comic book villain to run for the same title.
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