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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2015, 07:21:47 am »
Trump's building an audience for his booksales and self-help "business strategy" seminars too.  Not that he needs the money or anything, mind you.

I'm fairly sure Trump just loves the sound of his own voice, and doesn't especially care if he gets to hear it from the White House, or from some podium somewhere.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2015, 03:22:08 pm »
Trump's building an audience for his booksales and self-help "business strategy" seminars too.  Not that he needs the money or anything, mind you.

I'm fairly sure Trump just loves the sound of his own voice, and doesn't especially care if he gets to hear it from the White House, or from some podium somewhere.

He's a narcissist who earnestly believes that all the proof he needs that he's smarter and better than everyone else is his net worth.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2015, 03:47:19 pm »
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2015, 07:09:05 pm »
I sure hope the fact that Sanders is the Tumblr favorite right now doesn't wipe him out.

What's going to wipe him out is that he's using the tactics that get you elected "senator from Vermont" to run for "president of the United States".

And Trump is using the tactic of being a comic book villain to run for the same title.

It's just the Palin Effect.  The candidate will of course be Jeb Bush.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2015, 02:21:06 am »
Sanders is finished.  I'm moving his odds from 3:1 against in the betting book to 10:1 against.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2015, 03:36:31 am »
Watching his Portland appearance. 

He's doing well.  But I still think it's too late.  20,000 people are there, 9000 watching on Youtube.

The whole country, OTOH, saw him getting punked.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2015, 04:42:48 am »
"If Sanders can't stand up to some crazy-ass offshoot of BlackLivesMatter, how can he stand up to Putin?  When the 3am call comes, will Sanders just give the stage over to ISIS?"

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2015, 04:52:58 am »
"If Sanders can't stand up to some crazy-ass offshoot of BlackLivesMatter, how can he stand up to Putin?  When the 3am call comes, will Sanders just give the stage over to ISIS?"

Interesting stuff:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/08/blm-activist-who-shut-down-sanders-is-radical-christian-sarah-palin-supporter/

If it gains any traction, I'll have to re-revise the odds.  Some.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2015, 10:22:51 am »
"If Sanders can't stand up to some crazy-ass offshoot of BlackLivesMatter, how can he stand up to Putin?  When the 3am call comes, will Sanders just give the stage over to ISIS?"

Interesting stuff:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/08/blm-activist-who-shut-down-sanders-is-radical-christian-sarah-palin-supporter/

If it gains any traction, I'll have to re-revise the odds.  Some.

The site seems to be down. Interesting.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2015, 02:02:00 pm »
"If Sanders can't stand up to some crazy-ass offshoot of BlackLivesMatter, how can he stand up to Putin?  When the 3am call comes, will Sanders just give the stage over to ISIS?"

Interesting stuff:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/08/blm-activist-who-shut-down-sanders-is-radical-christian-sarah-palin-supporter/

If it gains any traction, I'll have to re-revise the odds.  Some.

The site seems to be down. Interesting.

It works just fine for me. But then, I am a filthy Canadian.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2015, 03:36:54 pm »
It works just fine for me. But then, I am a filthy Canadian.
Yeah, its working for me now, too. Still think it interesting that it was down earlier.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2015, 03:44:37 pm »
Helpful graphic of Sanders' position on civil rights and racial justice:


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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2015, 03:59:32 pm »
"If Sanders can't stand up to some crazy-ass offshoot of BlackLivesMatter, how can he stand up to Putin?  When the 3am call comes, will Sanders just give the stage over to ISIS?"

Interesting stuff:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/08/blm-activist-who-shut-down-sanders-is-radical-christian-sarah-palin-supporter/

If it gains any traction, I'll have to re-revise the odds.  Some.

Hmmm.  I do know BLM basically disavowed the Seattle protestors, and no surprise why (pro-tip: attacking the politician most receptive to your message and his supporters will probably not help matters).

However, this once again shows the limits of hashtag activism, that any idiot can set up a local movement, affiliate it with your own, and infect it with their own dumbassery.  If BLM had a centralized organization, a press office, PR manager etc...the first thing any journalist with a lick of sense would do would be to contact them and say "these idiots say they're your idiots.  Do you own these idiots?"  And then can turn around and say "no they're free-range, organic idiots" and everyone can go back to what they were doing before.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2015, 04:02:31 pm »
"If Sanders can't stand up to some crazy-ass offshoot of BlackLivesMatter, how can he stand up to Putin?  When the 3am call comes, will Sanders just give the stage over to ISIS?"

Interesting stuff:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/08/blm-activist-who-shut-down-sanders-is-radical-christian-sarah-palin-supporter/

If it gains any traction, I'll have to re-revise the odds.  Some.

Hmmm.  I do know BLM basically disavowed the Seattle protestors, and no surprise why (pro-tip: attacking the politician most receptive to your message and his supporters will probably not help matters).

However, this once again shows the limits of hashtag activism, that any idiot can set up a local movement, affiliate it with your own, and infect it with their own dumbassery.  If BLM had a centralized organization, a press office, PR manager etc...the first thing any journalist with a lick of sense would do would be to contact them and say "these idiots say they're your idiots.  Do you own these idiots?"  And then can turn around and say "no they're free-range, organic idiots" and everyone can go back to what they were doing before.

No, they didn't. Did you see the press release? Or the results of the protest? And the claims that one of the protesters is a Palin supporter are bullshit, too. Christian? SURPRISE! A Black Christian woman who is passionate about black lives? GO FIGURE.
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