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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #420 on: March 29, 2016, 05:45:19 pm »

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #421 on: March 29, 2016, 07:10:38 pm »
This has seriously been the worst election cycle in my lifetime. And we still have 5 more months of this shit. I'm exhausted, I've poisoned relationships with family members that I thought were always going to be there, I've been in no fewer than three heated arguments with the husband, who can't even goddamn vote shut the fuck up already, my kids are genuinely afraid for their future and asking me about the separation of powers and how impeachment works. Fuck all this shit straight to hell.

I'm gonna vote, but I may just write in a big middle finger for the presidency if this keeps up much longer. I'm in a solid blue state, my vote in the general doesn't mean dick anyway.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #422 on: March 29, 2016, 07:15:31 pm »

And for the record, Roger may or may not being a shitty human is not up for debate due to irrelevance. The committee is currently in session  to determine the quality of his lizardness.

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I'm calling campaign manager. Can't beat 'em, collaborate with them.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #423 on: March 29, 2016, 07:24:23 pm »

And for the record, Roger may or may not being a shitty human is not up for debate due to irrelevance. The committee is currently in session  to determine the quality of his lizardness.

Brothers and sisters, I have a scheme...

...Of black children, and white children slaving away in our glorious swamps providing free range food for all lizard-kind.

I'm calling campaign manager. Can't beat 'em, collaborate with them.

That's what I'm talking about.  If you can't stick to glass, you're an ass.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #424 on: March 29, 2016, 07:25:30 pm »
This has seriously been the worst election cycle in my lifetime. And we still have 5 more months of this shit. I'm exhausted, I've poisoned relationships with family members that I thought were always going to be there, I've been in no fewer than three heated arguments with the husband, who can't even goddamn vote shut the fuck up already, my kids are genuinely afraid for their future and asking me about the separation of powers and how impeachment works. Fuck all this shit straight to hell.

I'm gonna vote, but I may just write in a big middle finger for the presidency if this keeps up much longer. I'm in a solid blue state, my vote in the general doesn't mean dick anyway.

Yep.  That is precisely my feeling on the subject.  Spot on.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #425 on: March 29, 2016, 07:33:19 pm »
This has seriously been the worst election cycle in my lifetime. And we still have 5 more months of this shit. I'm exhausted, I've poisoned relationships with family members that I thought were always going to be there, I've been in no fewer than three heated arguments with the husband, who can't even goddamn vote shut the fuck up already, my kids are genuinely afraid for their future and asking me about the separation of powers and how impeachment works. Fuck all this shit straight to hell.

I'm gonna vote, but I may just write in a big middle finger for the presidency if this keeps up much longer. I'm in a solid blue state, my vote in the general doesn't mean dick anyway.

Yep.  That is precisely my feeling on the subject.  Spot on.

I swear to Zod the next person who says they'd rather have Trump because "at least it'd be INTERESTING" I am revoking their goddamned breathing privileges.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #426 on: March 29, 2016, 07:36:39 pm »

In fact some parties are deliberately trying to stay out of government despite having slightly higher numbers because they will be destroyed when the next election comes. Its cool because what the people have effectively said to the lot is "fuck you" and its resulted in a paralysed government that even if it forms will be unable to pass any kind of contentious issue (for better or worse).

So what has been the general result to actual day to day life? I'm guessing people have noticed but I have no idea of actual impact. I imagine most things are ticking along relatively well and public pressure will probably force any immediate issues. The water still fucked there?
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #427 on: March 29, 2016, 07:39:55 pm »

And for the record, Roger may or may not being a shitty human is not up for debate due to irrelevance. The committee is currently in session  to determine the quality of his lizardness.

Brothers and sisters, I have a scheme...

...Of black children, and white children slaving away in our glorious swamps providing free range food for all lizard-kind.

I'm calling campaign manager. Can't beat 'em, collaborate with them.

That's what I'm talking about.  If you can't stick to glass, you're an ass.

That's the most electable slogan I've heard in this entire cycle.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #428 on: March 29, 2016, 08:03:42 pm »

In fact some parties are deliberately trying to stay out of government despite having slightly higher numbers because they will be destroyed when the next election comes. Its cool because what the people have effectively said to the lot is "fuck you" and its resulted in a paralysed government that even if it forms will be unable to pass any kind of contentious issue (for better or worse).

So what has been the general result to actual day to day life? I'm guessing people have noticed but I have no idea of actual impact. I imagine most things are ticking along relatively well and public pressure will probably force any immediate issues. The water still fucked there?
Too soon to notice much, the president was the one leading all the 1916 centenary celebrations though which was really nice. Looks like Irish Water will be abolished or scaled back massively because most of the people who got in are the ones who said they would get rid of it.
But otherwise yeah, month without a ruling government and things are fine.
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« Reply #429 on: March 29, 2016, 08:35:30 pm »
Well, I spent the last half hour climbing out of the adit, and in that solitude it occurred to me that I still have three reasons - which I am not here to discuss- that I have for holding my nose and going to vote for whomever the dem candidate is.  So I guess I gotta.

Doesn't mean I have to be pals with any of their shitbag fanatical partisans, though, and it most assuredly means I don't have to forgive and/or forget a Goddamn thing.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #430 on: March 29, 2016, 10:22:26 pm »
Gotta say, I'm amused at Clinton's staff geek saying she won't debate until Sanders "changes his tone", which I gather means "stop complaining when Clinton runs over on the clock and then interrupts you."

Which brings to mind Trump not debating unless Meghan Kelly stopped being mean.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #431 on: March 29, 2016, 10:38:46 pm »
Well, I spent the last half hour climbing out of the adit, and in that solitude it occurred to me that I still have three reasons - which I am not here to discuss- that I have for holding my nose and going to vote for whomever the dem candidate is.  So I guess I gotta.

Doesn't mean I have to be pals with any of their shitbag fanatical partisans, though, and it most assuredly means I don't have to forgive and/or forget a Goddamn thing.

I've done my best to stop listening to supporters on both sides since the MA primaries.  Like, I can plainly see which party I'm going to go with  in November, so it doesn't really bother me which one gets it.  Though it's gonna be a tough road for Bernie.  But who knows?

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« Reply #432 on: March 29, 2016, 10:45:35 pm »
Well, I spent the last half hour climbing out of the adit, and in that solitude it occurred to me that I still have three reasons - which I am not here to discuss- that I have for holding my nose and going to vote for whomever the dem candidate is.  So I guess I gotta.

Doesn't mean I have to be pals with any of their shitbag fanatical partisans, though, and it most assuredly means I don't have to forgive and/or forget a Goddamn thing.

I've done my best to stop listening to supporters on both sides since the MA primaries.  Like, I can plainly see which party I'm going to go with  in November, so it doesn't really bother me which one gets it.  Though it's gonna be a tough road for Bernie.  But who knows?

Doesn't really matter.  I have concluded that my responsibility begins and ends with keeping Nazis out of the white house.

After that I don't care. 

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #433 on: March 30, 2016, 07:40:37 am »
I'm gonna vote, but I may just write in a big middle finger for the presidency if this keeps up much longer.

Like a joke candidate, or an actual moddle finger drawn on the ballot?

(And if a joke candidate, who do you favor? Vermin Supreme? Incitatus (Caligula's horse)? "Yo mama"?

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Of course it could be argued that Trump is every bit as ridiculous a candidate as Incitatus or Vermin Supreme
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #434 on: March 30, 2016, 10:36:05 am »
I wish I could share your optimism, but it seems a little misplaced. I can't realistically see anyone inclined to curb the income gap for example. Not in a way that doesn't allow the wealthy to avoid/benefit from any such laws enacted.

While Trump would obviously make things worse, I'm struggling to see Clinton making anything better. Who-ever wins, it's quite likely that there will be a huge racially related news story within the first 3 months for sure. While Clinton may address the problem in a more palatable way, I can't see her crippling the X to prison pipelines or removing bullshit search and seizure laws. Or any significant change in law that is an actual progressive move. The Sheriff Joes will continue as normal regardless of who is in control. And as long as you have Sheriff Joes, you'll get a whole heap of unjust racist bullshit.

A change of president does not mean that all the idiot TSA/Border agents/what-have-you's will suddenly just stop their shit. With a republican in charge it may get worse. With a democrat in charge, I'd say it's likely to stay the same, at best.

The point is, under Trump, or a lesser extent other Republicans, the ways it will get worse will almost certainly impact on ethnic minorities more than it will on white Americans.

However unpalatably phrased parts of that opinion piece may be, I think that is pretty unarguable. Clinton isn't exactly an ideal President either, but the point is, she's not the one currently arguing all Muslims need to be banned from the USA, or that Mexicans are rapists and murderers.