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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #825 on: September 23, 2016, 04:53:04 am »
As is encouraging war by stating you may not fulfill your mutual defence treaty obligations.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #826 on: September 26, 2016, 04:30:43 pm »
I read an interesting theory (on Quora) on what might happen after President Trump wins...

The theory went that the GOP will wait for/push Trump into doing something impeachable and then impeach him, putting Mike Pence in the hotseat.

Sound likely?
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #827 on: September 26, 2016, 07:56:06 pm »
Who's got the betting pool on tonight's debate?

I have one theory. Trump will do a classic sitcom bit: Hillary will describe a policy position, and then Trump will immediately parrot it, then take credit.  Since apparently the moderators are prevented from correcting anyone, Hillary will be forced to complain that Trump stole her idea, which he'll deny, then lie about her stealing [/i] his[/i] idea, because they're so great.  And then he gets elected.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #828 on: September 26, 2016, 08:14:59 pm »
You know what, fuck this Country.

Lets all write in "The Good Reverend Roger" and be done with it.

Then we can all die laughing.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #829 on: September 26, 2016, 08:40:06 pm »
You know what, fuck this Country.

Lets all write in "The Good Reverend Roger" and be done with it.

Then we can all die laughing.

You don't want to do that.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #830 on: September 26, 2016, 08:47:54 pm »
Well I certainly don't want a Trump presidency but sometimes we have to choose the funnier of two evils.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #831 on: September 26, 2016, 08:57:25 pm »
Besides, you and Trump do have at least one thing in common:

You attract all the crazies.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #832 on: September 26, 2016, 09:29:38 pm »
Who's got the betting pool on tonight's debate?

I have one theory. Trump will do a classic sitcom bit: Hillary will describe a policy position, and then Trump will immediately parrot it, then take credit.  Since apparently the moderators are prevented from correcting anyone, Hillary will be forced to complain that Trump stole her idea, which he'll deny, then lie about her stealing [/i] his[/i] idea, because they're so great.  And then he gets elected.

That's pretty much what Clinton did to Sanders.  I suspect that  Trump will mostly say nothing of consequence.  He will also do some lying and grand proclaiming.  Clinton meanwhile will have a lot of stuff to say that actually makes sense, but it won't be as exciting as Trumps grand nonsense.  I doubt the polls will move much one direction or the other afterwards because Clinton's supporters already know enough to dismiss Trump's nonsense and Trump's supporters already think she is too crooked to do anything but lie.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #833 on: September 26, 2016, 09:45:09 pm »
So in a way it's almost down to a coin toss.

Heads, we lose.  Tails, we lose extra hard.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #834 on: September 27, 2016, 12:08:05 am »
Trump's going to gish gallop his way to victory.  The journos will call it for Hillary but the public polls will say otherwise.  And it'll be hard to tell whether that's the public eating it up, or /pol/ and The_Donald brigading the shit out of every online poll in sight.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #835 on: September 27, 2016, 12:27:35 am »
Trump's going to gish gallop his way to victory.  The journos will call it for Hillary but the public polls will say otherwise.  And it'll be hard to tell whether that's the public eating it up, or /pol/ and The_Donald brigading the shit out of every online poll in sight.

Yeah, I'm probably gonna watch Saints/Falcons, instead.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #836 on: September 27, 2016, 12:38:14 am »
I'm watching, but I'm at work. 

On my own.

With a broken printer and a broken shutter system.

Waiting for a late student.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #837 on: September 27, 2016, 12:42:17 am »
I'm watching, but I'm at work. 

On my own.

With a broken printer and a broken shutter system.

Waiting for a late student.

Set a trap.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #838 on: September 27, 2016, 12:56:35 am »
Trump's going to gish gallop his way to victory.  The journos will call it for Hillary but the public polls will say otherwise.  And it'll be hard to tell whether that's the public eating it up, or /pol/ and The_Donald brigading the shit out of every online poll in sight.

Last two elections, the polls said McCain and then Romney were going to win.

Frankly, the polls are not an indicator either way, IMO.  I do believe that Trump is a threat, because the left is dumb in all the wrong ways.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #839 on: September 27, 2016, 12:58:40 am »
Oh I just mean informal online polls anyway, things that can shape the narrative for a couple of hours but no-one actually believes.  That said, I think the best polls in 2012 were predicting a roflstomp for Obama (the ones I were watching were consistent on that point at least).

That aside, this doesn't sound natural:

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On Monday, Mr Trump's campaign manager Kellyanne Conway told MSNBC that the "natural connective tissue he has with people" will be on show. "I can see that this man is ready for tonight," she added.