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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #1065 on: October 26, 2016, 06:33:42 pm »
She's calmed down a bit. Apparently the Feds know who the fuckers are, so they're being dealt with. Not that this makes it any easier. My bro took her to the range this week to brush up on her shooting skills, just in case. She doesn't have her CCP, which is required in FL, so she can't actually carry to work. It sounds like she seems confident the police are going to be running detail shifts, since the FBI has been so active about it.

Of course, the worst part isn't the election itself. It's going to be the day after. She's flying out here on the 12th, so hopefully she can get a bit of a vacation after this fucked up season.

My friend doing the same gig in Kansas City has flat out said the whole thing has been a "Trumpster Fire", and consider how red Missouri is, I could only imagine.
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #1066 on: October 26, 2016, 07:55:26 pm »
Glad to hear things are calming down for your mom somewhat, Suu, and brushing up on her firearms training probably isn't a bad idea. Best to be prepared.

This election cycle has been a circus. I'll be relieved once it's over.

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« Reply #1067 on: October 26, 2016, 10:20:44 pm »
Sorry I dropped out of the thread awhile back but my living situation unexpected changed. Just dropping in to point out:

Clinton openly advocating completely open borders and free trade:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmFjUFkd

Clinton thinks Wall Street did nothing wrong during the financial crisis:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmA2YA5Q

Clinton knows that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are funding ISIS:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774#efmBA5BDe

And are also funding Clinton:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8396#efmAEOAGW

Media collusion:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5953

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4543#efmAAGABu

https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4664

Including town hall questions being leaked:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5205#efmAD-AMa

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9007#efmAcTAdS

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7710#efmAakAd6AjgAlR

My person favorite of the whole batch:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3599#efmARKATm
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And as I've mentioned, we've all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking - and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging.

Now onto Sanders, who obviously wasnt screwed at all, Berniebros are just repeating right wing talking points:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3023#efmAMFAMSAM-ANBAOIAOhAOiAPV

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5423#efmAMyAPDAoKAqBAshAs8AzAA2x

The most damning:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5609
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Hillary Clinton will be our party's nominee and you standing on ceremony to support the sinking Bernie Sanders ship is disrespectful to Hillary Clinton. A woman who has spent the vast majority of her life in public service and working on behalf of women, families, and the underserved.  You have called both myself and Michael Kives before about helping your campaign raise money, we no longer trust your judgement so will not be raising money for your campaign.

Bankers deciding cabinet members:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15560

Totally no corruption here at all:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-ally-aids-campaign-of-fbi-officials-wife-1477266114?mod=e2tw

Also to point out that Cain is completely right. This election will not stop it. We own the GOP now. People whith anime avatars calling people cucks are getting elected already. Trump was just the vehicle. We are winning and there is nothing you can do to stop it. The wall will be built. Ted Kaczynski will be pardoned. Weight Lifting and Goethe will be 70% of the school curriculum. The Filipino-Russian-American Alliance will conquer the stars.  Eco-Fascist bodybuilding is the new face of conservatism. Accept it.

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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #1068 on: October 26, 2016, 10:36:12 pm »
Pray to Wikileaks, Ron Paul. Pray to Wikileaks that everything will come out Libertarian in the end.  :lulz:
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« Reply #1069 on: October 26, 2016, 10:45:27 pm »
Pray to Wikileaks, Ron Paul. Pray to Wikileaks that everything will come out Libertarian in the end.  :lulz:

I didnt say libertarian I said Eco-Fascism.

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« Reply #1070 on: October 26, 2016, 11:08:41 pm »
You say "we".
Who would that be,
exactly?
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Re: Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.
« Reply #1071 on: October 26, 2016, 11:16:59 pm »
You say "we".
Who would that be,
exactly?

The various factions of the Alt-Right.

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« Reply #1072 on: October 26, 2016, 11:29:28 pm »
What is an Eco Fascist? as in environmental campaigners?
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« Reply #1073 on: October 26, 2016, 11:43:30 pm »
Oh look, Ron Paul vomited Wikileaks on the thread and wants us to take him seriously.
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« Reply #1074 on: October 26, 2016, 11:47:11 pm »
What is an Eco Fascist? as in environmental campaigners?

This is the origin of the idea:
http://www.penttilinkola.com/pentti_linkola/ecofascism/

But it doesnt have to follow those rules perfectly. Industrial Society and Its Future is also a huge, Id say even bigger influence. Basically, The Industrial Revolution and its Consequences have been a disaster for the human race. Not just issues like Climate Change which most of you know about already, but the growing infertility crisis as well which has been linked to endocrine disruptors such as BPA.

http://ispub.com/IJU/2/1/7519

It would be a thread within itself to list all of the various horrible consequences we are currently facing as a result of Industrialism. Things like telomere shortening, the exponentially growing autism rate, you could fill a book. All these chemicals we spit out into the environment, they have no place in it. And they dont disperse either, they bioaccumulate and find their way back to us. This accumulation means that these problems will only get exponentially worse as we keep this up because were dealing with not just the new chemicals but all of the old ones that never really went anywhere. Its not unthinkable in a few generations to have up to 50% infertility, maybe even 60, 70. The same goes for Autism. We are literally poisoning ourselves to death, not in the distant future, but today.

These problems, and there are more than this, if only you knew how bad things really are, do not have an infinite timeline. Constant compromise, election after election, will inevitably lead to disaster. It is also incredibly stupid to think that somehow the rulers and power structures they occupy will ever willingly stop this. Oil companies have known about Climate Change since the early 70s. The companies that make BPA, when ordered by law to stop, replaced it with compounds that were even worse. They honestly dont give a shit. The few with the foresight to realize what they are doing plan on fucking off to space hotels or air-filtered domes in the UAE.

If humanity is to survive Industrial society must be dismantled, there can be no compromise. The powers that be or in open war with the human race. That is why we must seek power for ourselves to achieve our goals. Anything else is it just LARPing.

If there are elections after this shitshow, we will keep winning them. If there are wars, well win those. Life must prevail.

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« Reply #1075 on: October 26, 2016, 11:58:01 pm »
Oh look, Ron Paul vomited Wikileaks on the thread and wants us to take him seriously.

You see thats the opposite of what I want. Primary advantage of being far-right, it keeps out LARPing liberals who care more about virtue signalling than accomplishing things, if they even care about that at all. Can you even imagine people who blubber about safespaces and microaggressions ever pulling off something like this? Taking over one of the major political parties? When someone on the left gets doxxed and harrassed they get an inbox full of mean words. When someone on the Alt-Right does, they call your schools, they call your workplaces and they make sure you have no chance of a future ever again. Then you get no asspats, you get no teary-eyed interviews, you get a chorus of people happy that it happened because youre mean to them on the internet. No one who is in this isnt serious. They might be stupid, but they dont LARP. And thats why we are the GOP now.

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« Reply #1076 on: October 27, 2016, 12:02:20 am »
You say "we".
Who would that be,
exactly?

The various factions of the Alt-Right.

So a batch of disunified "factions" is winning ground by getting elected to public office despite often atrocious online behavior and you identify with them as a co-winner huh? Of those factions which do you most identify with and why?
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« Reply #1077 on: October 27, 2016, 12:04:53 am »
What is an Eco Fascist? as in environmental campaigners?

This is the origin of the idea:
http://www.penttilinkola.com/pentti_linkola/ecofascism/

But it doesnt have to follow those rules perfectly. Industrial Society and Its Future is also a huge, Id say even bigger influence. Basically, The Industrial Revolution and its Consequences have been a disaster for the human race. Not just issues like Climate Change which most of you know about already, but the growing infertility crisis as well which has been linked to endocrine disruptors such as BPA.

http://ispub.com/IJU/2/1/7519

It would be a thread within itself to list all of the various horrible consequences we are currently facing as a result of Industrialism. Things like telomere shortening, the exponentially growing autism rate, you could fill a book. All these chemicals we spit out into the environment, they have no place in it. And they dont disperse either, they bioaccumulate and find their way back to us. This accumulation means that these problems will only get exponentially worse as we keep this up because were dealing with not just the new chemicals but all of the old ones that never really went anywhere. Its not unthinkable in a few generations to have up to 50% infertility, maybe even 60, 70. The same goes for Autism. We are literally poisoning ourselves to death, not in the distant future, but today.

These problems, and there are more than this, if only you knew how bad things really are, do not have an infinite timeline. Constant compromise, election after election, will inevitably lead to disaster. It is also incredibly stupid to think that somehow the rulers and power structures they occupy will ever willingly stop this. Oil companies have known about Climate Change since the early 70s. The companies that make BPA, when ordered by law to stop, replaced it with compounds that were even worse. They honestly dont give a shit. The few with the foresight to realize what they are doing plan on fucking off to space hotels or air-filtered domes in the UAE.

If humanity is to survive Industrial society must be dismantled, there can be no compromise. The powers that be or in open war with the human race. That is why we must seek power for ourselves to achieve our goals. Anything else is it just LARPing.

If there are elections after this shitshow, we will keep winning them. If there are wars, well win those. Life must prevail.

That sounds incredibly incompatible with the majority of the alt-right. Large swathes of them don't even believe in global warming.
Also, that sounds about as workable as the voluntary human extinction movement.

Either I'm missing something, or you're missing something, and reality has well known me-bias :fnord:
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« Reply #1078 on: October 27, 2016, 12:07:27 am »
What is an Eco Fascist? as in environmental campaigners?

This is the origin of the idea:
http://www.penttilinkola.com/pentti_linkola/ecofascism/

But it doesnt have to follow those rules perfectly. Industrial Society and Its Future is also a huge, Id say even bigger influence. Basically, The Industrial Revolution and its Consequences have been a disaster for the human race. Not just issues like Climate Change which most of you know about already, but the growing infertility crisis as well which has been linked to endocrine disruptors such as BPA.

http://ispub.com/IJU/2/1/7519

It would be a thread within itself to list all of the various horrible consequences we are currently facing as a result of Industrialism. Things like telomere shortening, the exponentially growing autism rate, you could fill a book. All these chemicals we spit out into the environment, they have no place in it. And they dont disperse either, they bioaccumulate and find their way back to us. This accumulation means that these problems will only get exponentially worse as we keep this up because were dealing with not just the new chemicals but all of the old ones that never really went anywhere. Its not unthinkable in a few generations to have up to 50% infertility, maybe even 60, 70. The same goes for Autism. We are literally poisoning ourselves to death, not in the distant future, but today.

These problems, and there are more than this, if only you knew how bad things really are, do not have an infinite timeline. Constant compromise, election after election, will inevitably lead to disaster. It is also incredibly stupid to think that somehow the rulers and power structures they occupy will ever willingly stop this. Oil companies have known about Climate Change since the early 70s. The companies that make BPA, when ordered by law to stop, replaced it with compounds that were even worse. They honestly dont give a shit. The few with the foresight to realize what they are doing plan on fucking off to space hotels or air-filtered domes in the UAE.

If humanity is to survive Industrial society must be dismantled, there can be no compromise. The powers that be or in open war with the human race. That is why we must seek power for ourselves to achieve our goals. Anything else is it just LARPing.

If there are elections after this shitshow, we will keep winning them. If there are wars, well win those. Life must prevail.
A lot of this is true, and some of it I would need to check on.
I would however say that the outcome of this election and any subsequent ones will have no bearing on the outcome of this.
We are living on a planet with 7 billion people, in all likelyhood in 30 years from now, we'll be living in one with 2 billion people and that has NOTHING to do with infertility rates, its just basic supply and demand and centralisation of risk.

I don't believe anyone in power will be in a position to set policy on this, they will have policy thrust upon them. So lets enjoy this election cycle for the meaningless spectacle of shitty candidates that it is.
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« Reply #1079 on: October 27, 2016, 12:23:02 am »
Oh look, Ron Paul vomited Wikileaks on the thread and wants us to take him seriously.

You see thats the opposite of what I want. Primary advantage of being far-right, it keeps out LARPing liberals who care more about virtue signalling than accomplishing things, if they even care about that at all. Can you even imagine people who blubber about safespaces and microaggressions ever pulling off something like this? Taking over one of the major political parties? When someone on the left gets doxxed and harrassed they get an inbox full of mean words. When someone on the Alt-Right does, they call your schools, they call your workplaces and they make sure you have no chance of a future ever again. Then you get no asspats, you get no teary-eyed interviews, you get a chorus of people happy that it happened because youre mean to them on the internet. No one who is in this isnt serious. They might be stupid, but they dont LARP. And thats why we are the GOP now.
Was it really that difficult to overthrow the likes of Jeb Bush?
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