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Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« on: April 20, 2016, 01:04:25 am »
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Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2016, 01:25:29 am »
It's like having Big Ed Meese back!   :lulz:
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2016, 07:27:03 am »
Did not read the bill, but the article says the bill is mostly about who is now obligated to report child porn.  Which is not nearly as batty as I was expecting. 
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As a neuroscientist I have to disagree with the perception that anyone is doing mathematical modeling of cognitive intelligence, yet; intelligence as an economist defines it, yes, but economists are worlds away from actual cognition.


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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2016, 01:20:00 am »
It's actually pretty progressive tbh. Porn is a health crisis because it has a lot if common themes that worm into your head. And effects how you sex and treat people.

But I mean. Instead of declaring it a crisis I'd just fund some of the making love tasteful porn. Or you know. Tell people that porn is an industry that caters to anything so see the subliminal messages in each genera and choose your poison

And as always fuck pedos.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2016, 03:15:44 am »
It's actually pretty progressive tbh. Porn is a health crisis because it has a lot if common themes that worm into your head. And effects how you sex and treat people.

But I mean. Instead of declaring it a crisis I'd just fund some of the making love tasteful porn. Or you know. Tell people that porn is an industry that caters to anything so see the subliminal messages in each genera and choose your poison

And as always fuck pedos.

Leaving the pedos aside, obviously, there is no argument for criminalization of porn involving consenting adults. 

I feel that porn of ANY kind is the commidification of human beings and therefore immoral, but for one reason or another, my morals are not binding on other human beings.
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Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2016, 06:47:56 am »
It's actually pretty progressive tbh. Porn is a health crisis because it has a lot if common themes that worm into your head. And effects how you sex and treat people.

But I mean. Instead of declaring it a crisis I'd just fund some of the making love tasteful porn. Or you know. Tell people that porn is an industry that caters to anything so see the subliminal messages in each genera and choose your poison

And as always fuck pedos.

Leaving the pedos aside, obviously, there is no argument for criminalization of porn involving consenting adults. 

I feel that porn of ANY kind is the commidification of human beings and therefore immoral, but for one reason or another, my morals are not binding on other human beings.

That was another thing the governor said, and I am in agreement with you both.
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As a neuroscientist I have to disagree with the perception that anyone is doing mathematical modeling of cognitive intelligence, yet; intelligence as an economist defines it, yes, but economists are worlds away from actual cognition.


Although it is outside the purview of this organization to offer personal advice, we can say -- without assuming any liability -- that previous experience indicates (and recent market studies corroborate) that given the present condition of the marketplace, continuing with your present course of action is likely to result in substantial in

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Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2016, 06:51:57 pm »
Porn is the commodification of human beings, but so is wage labor.  Porn is different in that it is he commodification of the sexual act.

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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2016, 08:56:26 pm »
Porn is the commodification of human beings, but so is wage labor.  Porn is different in that it is he commodification of the sexual act.

Disagree.  Selling your labor is not the same as selling your person.
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Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2016, 09:36:03 pm »
I feel that porn of ANY kind is the commidification of human beings

What about hentai?

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In any case I personally am in general pro-porn and anti-Utah. Utah is the worst state in the union.

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Porn is the commodification of human beings, but so is wage labor.  Porn is different in that it is he commodification of the sexual act.

And whether that makes it better or worse is wholly a matter of opinion and of cultural indoctrination.
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2016, 09:43:10 pm »
I feel that porn of ANY kind is the commidification of human beings

What about hentai?

Liking hentai means you are a bad person and the world will be a better place when you die.

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And whether that makes it better or worse is wholly a matter of opinion and of cultural indoctrination.

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen:  The Privilege Award for 2016!  Give him a big hand, isn't he GREAT?
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Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2016, 10:03:16 pm »
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And whether that makes it better or worse is wholly a matter of opinion and of cultural indoctrination.

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen:  The Privilege Award for 2016!  Give him a big hand, isn't he GREAT?

And he cultural indoctrination of the people around you then. If somebody gets criticized or condemned or discriminated against for being a porn star or otherwise involved with the porn industry that's the fault of the prople discriminating against them (and more often than not ultimately the fault of Abrahamic religion), not the fault of the porn industry.

I feel that porn of ANY kind is the commidification of human beings

What about hentai?

Liking hentai means you are a bad person and the world will be a better place when you die.

What about amateur porn then? Sexting? Dick pics?

What about Erotic fiction? The only people Erika Mitchell is exploiting are her readers. :D

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And that last point goes even more so for the Marquis de Sade; his work's legally available 100% free on the internet so you can't even make a sarcastic case about the consumer being exploited.


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What about porn catering to fetishes so out there that they no longer resemble conventional sex? Someone popping a balloon on a kids' show on boradcast tv is a-ok but that same person popping a balloon behind a paywall on the internet is suddenly a moral outrage? For reasons unrelated to a general opposition to paywalls?
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Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2016, 10:15:09 pm »
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And whether that makes it better or worse is wholly a matter of opinion and of cultural indoctrination.

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen:  The Privilege Award for 2016!  Give him a big hand, isn't he GREAT?

And he cultural indoctrination of the people around you then. If somebody gets criticized or condemned or discriminated against for being a porn star or otherwise involved with the porn industry that's the fault of the prople discriminating against them (and more often than not ultimately the fault of Abrahamic religion), not the fault of the porn industry.

You seem to be having trouble with the basic concept, here.  I am talking about "pornography" and you are building some sort of weird straw man involving people who work in pornography.

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I feel that porn of ANY kind is the commidification of human beings

What about hentai?

Liking hentai means you are a bad person and the world will be a better place when you die.

What about amateur porn then? Sexting? Dick pics?

What about Erotic fiction? The only people Erika Mitchell is exploiting are her readers.

1.  Exhibitionism is not the same as pornography.

2.  Fiction is about people who aren't real.
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Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2016, 10:22:29 pm »
You're moving the goalposts (or would it more properly be a no true scotsman fallacy? or argument by bizarre definition?). All these things are both 1.) sexual imagery and 2.) don't clearly qualify (and in many cases clearly don't qualify) as "legitimate" art. Given these facts how in the bloody hell do they not qualify as pornography?
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2016, 11:02:27 pm »
You're moving the goalposts (or would it more properly be a no true scotsman fallacy? or argument by bizarre definition?). All these things are both 1.) sexual imagery and 2.) don't clearly qualify (and in many cases clearly don't qualify) as "legitimate" art. Given these facts how in the bloody hell do they not qualify as pornography?

No, I'm not.  You are simply digging in your heels and screeching.

I am done with this.  You can navel-gaze just fine on your own, kid.
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Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2016, 11:57:19 pm »
Restrictions on porn is kink shaming. I'm being oppressed.
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