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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2016, 10:14:06 pm »
I think I need to bump up the font size on Or Kill Me and get the ad box a little out of the big frame.
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2016, 10:29:56 pm »
I think I need to bump up the font size on Or Kill Me and get the ad box a little out of the big frame.

I agree about the "OKM" being bigger. When you say out of the big frame do you mean like partially off the edge of the paper?
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2016, 10:53:06 pm »
I think I need to bump up the font size on Or Kill Me and get the ad box a little out of the big frame.

I agree about the "OKM" being bigger. When you say out of the big frame do you mean like partially off the edge of the paper?

Like so:
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2016, 12:25:57 am »
Ohhhh, yeah.   8)

ETA:  I LOVE the addition, "we are winning".
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2016, 01:10:14 am »
I think I need to bump up the font size on Or Kill Me and get the ad box a little out of the big frame.

I agree about the "OKM" being bigger. When you say out of the big frame do you mean like partially off the edge of the paper?

Like so:

Sic

I see. I very much like the effect of the greater overlap, like a sticker that is not a sticker.
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2016, 04:42:50 am »


Print two of these doublesided (flip on short side) and you can cut them in half for doublesided half sheets, or just fold them, or just full sheet. Whatever.
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2016, 05:50:50 am »
Hmm. As a trans person, I've noticed that there are a lot of parallels between Discordian approaches to navigating reality and the kind of approach you need to adopt in order to have a consistent model that accounts for nonbinary genders. Discordia's been a great help in trying to figure out how exactly my own gender works, and frankly, I think it could be useful as a means for breaking out of the kind of dogmatism that develops in a lot of spaces like Tumblr.

However, if there's one thing the queer community as a whole despises, it's being told what by straight people, or even by queer people who aren't the exact kind of queer that they are. I think TGRR/QG's pamphlet is good, but its fatal flaw is that it addresses the queer community from the outside; in my experience(which is admittedly limited and mostly consists of dealing with trans people), we tend to be clannish and insular, and extremely paranoid about outsiders. It'd work better if it said "us" instead of "you," but it'd be underhanded and dishonest for a piece written by TGRR to do so. Maybe I could write something up. But for now, I'm going to bed. I'll check this thread tomorrow.
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2016, 10:14:12 am »
QG, Thanks for the quote, much appreciated.

Also that sucks and / or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2016, 11:50:48 am »
Hmm. As a trans person, I've noticed that there are a lot of parallels between Discordian approaches to navigating reality and the kind of approach you need to adopt in order to have a consistent model that accounts for nonbinary genders. Discordia's been a great help in trying to figure out how exactly my own gender works, and frankly, I think it could be useful as a means for breaking out of the kind of dogmatism that develops in a lot of spaces like Tumblr.

However, if there's one thing the queer community as a whole despises, it's being told what by straight people, or even by queer people who aren't the exact kind of queer that they are. I think TGRR/QG's pamphlet is good, but its fatal flaw is that it addresses the queer community from the outside; in my experience(which is admittedly limited and mostly consists of dealing with trans people), we tend to be clannish and insular, and extremely paranoid about outsiders. It'd work better if it said "us" instead of "you," but it'd be underhanded and dishonest for a piece written by TGRR to do so. Maybe I could write something up. But for now, I'm going to bed. I'll check this thread tomorrow.

From what I've experienced of the atmosphere where I'm planning on distributing these, I don't think the clannish/insularness is going to be a major deal. For one, Pride is FULL of straight allies. For another, the old LGBT thing is pretty relevant (where gay dudes, especially affluent clean-cut white ones, hog all the visibility and the rest of the QUILTBAG gets scraps) is still super happening. Another is how disgustingly commercial Pride is now, at least in major cities. Marshalls sponsored a shoe car one year I was there, and Microsoft had a whole contingent. Last, most of the people on the parade route are there for the spectacle and freebies. They're expecting stuff shoved in their hands, and they're expecting it not to challenge anything, which is just sad because all this started with riots because people were who they were so hard it threatened the foundations of society.
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2016, 12:15:50 pm »
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She was so pretty, with her short hair and big, deep brown eyes and one of those smiles that you'd swear was photoshop but it's not because it's right in front of you. We were the same height, and her fingers were soft and perfectly tapered, and she worked in the sciences and I loved everything about her, just not for very long.

When you're bi, you have a lot of straight-looking relationships. Even if you're a mythical 50/50 split, even if you're 80/20 towards the gay end of the spectrum, societal pressure and other dumb shit makes it easier to default to straight-looking. And when you do that for a long time, you miss out on what it means to be with someone of your gender.

We stumbled, giggling through kisses and apologizing incessantly over email because we never knew where the boundaries were. But it wasn't just figuring out the geometry of a differently shaped body. We realized, both of us, that we couldn't fall back on "default." There were no expectations of who would take charge, of who would pay, of who would seek and who would offer consent. We were in uncharted territory, for us at least. We had to think for ourselves.

This is the threat, the thing they hate about us. There are people who look at the possibility of having to blaze their own path and they just fucking can't. There are only so many spoons to go around, and they have precisely zero available to reconsider the default configuration of their lives, and they are terrified that their children will grow up to be unrecognizable to them. They are not prepared for The Strange Times, they're barely prepared for fifty years ago.

I say we couldn't fall back on "default," but I guess I was wrong, because she did. I loved her for a week and she ditched me for safer ground. And it hurt, but it's the kind of hurt that means your heart's still working. I forget that I've aggressively selected for revolutionaries in my life, and it's no fault of hers she wasn't one.

But I always will be, and I hope you are too.
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2016, 10:14:20 pm »
Hmm. As a trans person, I've noticed that there are a lot of parallels between Discordian approaches to navigating reality and the kind of approach you need to adopt in order to have a consistent model that accounts for nonbinary genders. Discordia's been a great help in trying to figure out how exactly my own gender works, and frankly, I think it could be useful as a means for breaking out of the kind of dogmatism that develops in a lot of spaces like Tumblr.

However, if there's one thing the queer community as a whole despises, it's being told what by straight people, or even by queer people who aren't the exact kind of queer that they are. I think TGRR/QG's pamphlet is good, but its fatal flaw is that it addresses the queer community from the outside; in my experience(which is admittedly limited and mostly consists of dealing with trans people), we tend to be clannish and insular, and extremely paranoid about outsiders. It'd work better if it said "us" instead of "you," but it'd be underhanded and dishonest for a piece written by TGRR to do so. Maybe I could write something up. But for now, I'm going to bed. I'll check this thread tomorrow.

Okay, pitch it.  Sorry I bothered.

Just talked to my younger son, who is trans.  He says you're full of shit and this is the sort of mind-game people play when they want to the the next big tumblrina on scene.

Having looked at again, of course he is right, given that the piece wasn't aimed at transgender folks, it was aimed at all LGBT+ folks, whom you are certainly not qualified to speak for as king.  Given that, I have to say that I am NOT going through THAT bullshit argument again, and I would really appreciate it if President Television never bothered speaking to me again, and I assure you that I shall reciprocate.

QG, use it or not, as you see fit.  President Television, dead serious:  Fuck off.
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2016, 12:01:06 pm »
Hmm. As a trans person, I've noticed that there are a lot of parallels between Discordian approaches to navigating reality and the kind of approach you need to adopt in order to have a consistent model that accounts for nonbinary genders. Discordia's been a great help in trying to figure out how exactly my own gender works, and frankly, I think it could be useful as a means for breaking out of the kind of dogmatism that develops in a lot of spaces like Tumblr.

However, if there's one thing the queer community as a whole despises, it's being told what by straight people, or even by queer people who aren't the exact kind of queer that they are. I think TGRR/QG's pamphlet is good, but its fatal flaw is that it addresses the queer community from the outside; in my experience(which is admittedly limited and mostly consists of dealing with trans people), we tend to be clannish and insular, and extremely paranoid about outsiders. It'd work better if it said "us" instead of "you," but it'd be underhanded and dishonest for a piece written by TGRR to do so. Maybe I could write something up. But for now, I'm going to bed. I'll check this thread tomorrow.

Okay, pitch it.  Sorry I bothered.

Just talked to my younger son, who is trans.  He says you're full of shit and this is the sort of mind-game people play when they want to the the next big tumblrina on scene.

Having looked at again, of course he is right, given that the piece wasn't aimed at transgender folks, it was aimed at all LGBT+ folks, whom you are certainly not qualified to speak for as king.  Given that, I have to say that I am NOT going through THAT bullshit argument again, and I would really appreciate it if President Television never bothered speaking to me again, and I assure you that I shall reciprocate.

QG, use it or not, as you see fit.  President Television, dead serious:  Fuck off.

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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2016, 12:12:22 pm »


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« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2016, 01:34:13 pm »
That's damn impressive.

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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2016, 02:21:08 pm »
Which Pride parades are you going to be flyering at?  I may be at the Boston one, close to the Trophy Room.