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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2016, 05:02:59 pm »
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That sounds like a special forces tactic, the sort of thing you'd see deployed in overseas situations by military personnel.

This was my first thought. I suspect that the years of hiring ex military to fill out the police ranks are starting to have some very unintended consequences.
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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2016, 07:54:36 pm »
This is a scary escalation to an awful tragedy, I fear the idea is out there now, I expect the first civilian performes  killing using a drone or other, within a year.*



Assuming it hasn't already happened and passed me by.

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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2016, 08:16:32 pm »
Kept seeing people tweeting about BLM protests. My naive Coloradan self thought at a glance they were crazy rednecks in texas protesting the federal government & bureau of land management (what BLM is). Coupled with a guy in camo being the first suspect because he was OPEN CARRYING A FREAKING AR-15 AT THE EVENT, and it made sense.

Nope. Turns out it stands for black lives matter, too, apparently. Now anyways.

Makes "I went to a BLM Area to shoot some rounds today" have a much, much darker meaning now. Especially considering 75% of shots I've fired in my lifetime have been in BLM areas/land. Snowmobile/ATV usage, too.
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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2016, 09:39:15 pm »
This is a scary escalation to an awful tragedy, I fear the idea is out there now, I expect the first civilian performes  killing using a drone or other, within a year.*



Assuming it hasn't already happened and passed me by.

Citizen? Or civilian? Because they've been bombing citizens abroad for years (I think Cain may have mentioned this recently. If not, see this.)

Pretty sure they tend to be terrorists/badwrong people, but they're almost never indicted or convicted of any crimes when they are killed.

If you mean civilians, as in people who like, go to the gym on Thursdays and hate work, then I don't remember anything like that. In which case, I agree, it is coming soon.
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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2016, 10:43:09 pm »
Civilian, the technology is available and cheap, there is a culture of entitlement, the idea of using drones in hit and run bombings removes the accountability, maybe I am being alarmist, but the culture is there for another unibomber.

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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2016, 11:54:07 pm »
I think this will escalate the trend of bad police.  The risk of police work looks like it is increasing, while the rewards (being able to shoot people of color) are not appealing to good police, but are to bad ones.

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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2016, 12:00:49 am »
Civilian, the technology is available and cheap, there is a culture of entitlement, the idea of using drones in hit and run bombings removes the accountability, maybe I am being alarmist, but the culture is there for another unibomber.

Yeah, I'd never really thought about it for much more than a split second. Now that the weight of the suggestion has settled in, that's actually quite fucking terrifying. Not the idea of it happening, per se, but that it doesn't actually seem that far away. I don't think you're being alarmist.
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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2016, 12:46:08 am »
Civilian, the technology is available and cheap, there is a culture of entitlement, the idea of using drones in hit and run bombings removes the accountability, maybe I am being alarmist, but the culture is there for another unibomber.

when my son was in Iraq, he said ISIS had more drone coverage than the Marines did.  Cheap from Amazon.com, easy to learn how to use.

weaponizing one would be a breeze.
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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2016, 12:47:15 am »
I am also unsurprised by this.  You demonstrate that a subgroup of the population can more or less be killed on a whim, sooner or later the hotheads just say "fuck it".
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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2016, 01:13:52 am »
Civilian, the technology is available and cheap, there is a culture of entitlement, the idea of using drones in hit and run bombings removes the accountability, maybe I am being alarmist, but the culture is there for another unibomber.

when my son was in Iraq, he said ISIS had more drone coverage than the Marines did.  Cheap from Amazon.com, easy to learn how to use.

weaponizing one would be a breeze.

Oh my god...
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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2016, 01:22:30 am »
Civilian, the technology is available and cheap, there is a culture of entitlement, the idea of using drones in hit and run bombings removes the accountability, maybe I am being alarmist, but the culture is there for another unibomber.

when my son was in Iraq, he said ISIS had more drone coverage than the Marines did.  Cheap from Amazon.com, easy to learn how to use.

weaponizing one would be a breeze.

Oh my god...

18 year old mounts a gun to a drone (i think he made one with a flame thrower, too)
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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2016, 02:49:12 am »
Civilian, the technology is available and cheap, there is a culture of entitlement, the idea of using drones in hit and run bombings removes the accountability, maybe I am being alarmist, but the culture is there for another unibomber.

when my son was in Iraq, he said ISIS had more drone coverage than the Marines did.  Cheap from Amazon.com, easy to learn how to use.

weaponizing one would be a breeze.

Oh my god...

18 year old mounts a gun to a drone (i think he made one with a flame thrower, too)

Was more concerned with the top part of what Roger said, but now that seems even more fucked up.
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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2016, 11:11:24 pm »
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-police-robot-idUSKCN0ZO2KR

Update on bomb robot shit. Not good.

Apparently gasses of various forms no longer exist, C4 is the only practical option. What the living fuck are you people doing over there? How can this gear possibly be considered appropriate for a police department to own, let alone use? Seems like a radical escalation of force-continuum.

The kicker is that they still have 2 spares.
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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2016, 12:26:32 am »
After we pulled out of Iraq, we had tons of military ordinance left unused and unsold.

Then some Titan of Capitalism suggested they sell it to police departments "to combat terrorism."



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Re: Dallas Police shootings
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2016, 06:53:01 am »
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-police-robot-idUSKCN0ZO2KR

Update on bomb robot shit. Not good.

Apparently gasses of various forms no longer exist, C4 is the only practical option. What the living fuck are you people doing over there? How can this gear possibly be considered appropriate for a police department to own, let alone use? Seems like a radical escalation of force-continuum.

The kicker is that they still have 2 spares.

It's designed to detonate explosives.  In that capacity I have no problem with it.  Big city forces certainly need a way to remotely detonate bombs.