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The Good, The Bad, And What They Did To The Uglies.
« on: July 16, 2016, 03:52:36 am »
The greatest piece of fiction, the most influential and most dangerous piece of fiction ever to be created was the assertion that Good always trumps Evil.

It's been the backbone of every major successful story or article of propaganda that has ever been created. It has been beaten into us by the whimsical, but blind majority of story tellers and leaders. It is, in essence, the greatest lie ever told.

It's not unusual that it's so successful. It's positive, and it is good to be positive. But it ignores the simple fact that that has never been the case. Nor has it ever been the case that Good has been fighting Evil at every vantage point, tooth and nail. Good, at all points in history, has been waning, being stripped, bit by bit, to almost nothing.

I've witnessed what mankind is capable of on a person to person scale, in terms of both Good and Evil. You are told that Evil exists in only a few of us. You are being lied to.

Did you think that BH was squicky? I have spoken for long hours with those that would cause even BH to throw up in his mouth. And what I've learned from those people, is that they exist everywhere. They babysit your kid, they work extra hours to feed their kids, they live the ordinary life that you'd expect from just about any sane, decent person. And the only reason they exist in such great numbers now is because people have always assumed that Good always trumps Evil.

You think to yourself, "I'm nothing like those people. They are sick. They were born or made that way by their genetics or their environment."

But then, you haven't been paying much attention to psychology. Environment and genetics may affect your decisions. But do not forget that decisions also affect your environment and genetics. Decisions you make can affect the way your brain functions forever.

The Bad people that leave you unaware of their existence are people that were given a predisposition, and the assumption that Good would triumph in the end. Without that assumption, they wouldn't have been willing to feed their darkest thoughts. They wouldn't have been willing to take that extra step, to seal their potential for greatness into a dark box.

You see, those who make that assumption and end up Bad also assume that that means Good will defeat them in the end. The assumption that drives the killer to be caught.

"I am the villain, someone be the hero. If I am to be Evil, then surely there must be someone who matches my Evil with Good to make me pay. Surely there will be justice."

But if everyone makes that assumption, then that means no one is there to Stand Up for Good and deliver that Justice. They assume someone else will take up that cause, because, after all, Good always triumphs over Evil.

If you are depressed after reading this, it is only natural. Don't let it keep you down. You need your energy to stop Evil. You need your positivity to deal with the reality. You only need to understand that simply knowing that Good is capable of losing is pushing the entire world toward a better path. When you see Evil that you are capable of stopping, do not assume that Evil will fall by the grace of some God or Hero. There is no Savior. There is only the decision to recognize that Good is fallible, in the same way that Evil is fallible.
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2016, 05:30:27 pm »
Maybe this should've been in Horrorology (Forgot about that board).

Also, maybe this shouldn't have been typed out on a phone, and in a hurry before my phone died.

I may go over this and refine it. If I do, should I do it in the Horrorology thread?
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2016, 05:24:03 am »
I liked it.  But the fact is, evil eventually devours itself...Because the people involved are, well, evil and tend to factionalize and fuck each other over.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2016, 05:24:43 am »
And I can move it to Horrorology, if you like.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2016, 05:37:34 am »
Thank you very much!

I agree, somewhat. One of my points is that the assumption is what can cause a good person to become bad. But you are right that those bad people tend to fuck each other over. They are counterproductive to their kind. But their resilience is greater and greater as the years go on and tiring to the Good left alive.

I didn't have a preference for location. I just didn't know if you guys had one. Move it at will  :)
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2016, 06:59:51 am »
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"I am the villain, someone be the hero. If I am to be Evil, then surely there must be someone who matches my Evil with Good to make me pay. Surely there will be justice."
most mofo no wan be caught

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2016, 09:39:24 am »
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"I am the villain, someone be the hero. If I am to be Evil, then surely there must be someone who matches my Evil with Good to make me pay. Surely there will be justice."
most mofo no wan be caught

How do you know what most mofos want, deep down?  Are you most mofos?

Do you consider yourself to be Evil?
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2016, 10:05:55 am »
The truth is that Good doesn't get shit done. Good is too busy self-policing to get off its ass and do something. Good chops its own legs off before a fight because it's unfair to go into battle fully armed when others don't have access to all the benefits of whiteness, straightness, maleness, ableness, etc. Good is self-congratulatory to the point of vomit inducement, patting itself on the back for using the right pronouns and eating the right food and generally being RIGHT all over the place, like a shining beacon of hope to the masses, but it doesn't put a nickle in the homeless guy's cup. Good never learned to throw a punch.

At night Good collapses into a sobbing wreck because it can't handle the stress of living up to "goodness" and it's ashamed and alone and its friends are shallow and worthless as sounding boards or lifelines in the dark.
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2016, 12:02:03 pm »
The truth is that Good doesn't get shit done. Good is too busy self-policing to get off its ass and do something. Good chops its own legs off before a fight because it's unfair to go into battle fully armed when others don't have access to all the benefits of whiteness, straightness, maleness, ableness, etc. Good is self-congratulatory to the point of vomit inducement, patting itself on the back for using the right pronouns and eating the right food and generally being RIGHT all over the place, like a shining beacon of hope to the masses, but it doesn't put a nickle in the homeless guy's cup. Good never learned to throw a punch.

At night Good collapses into a sobbing wreck because it can't handle the stress of living up to "goodness" and it's ashamed and alone and its friends are shallow and worthless as sounding boards or lifelines in the dark.

This is fucking great :mittens:

In fact, it probably deserves its own thread. But I am flattered to Hell and back that you would use it to respond to my rant.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2016, 12:30:46 pm »
The truth is that Good doesn't get shit done. Good is too busy self-policing to get off its ass and do something. Good chops its own legs off before a fight because it's unfair to go into battle fully armed when others don't have access to all the benefits of whiteness, straightness, maleness, ableness, etc. Good is self-congratulatory to the point of vomit inducement, patting itself on the back for using the right pronouns and eating the right food and generally being RIGHT all over the place, like a shining beacon of hope to the masses, but it doesn't put a nickle in the homeless guy's cup. Good never learned to throw a punch.

At night Good collapses into a sobbing wreck because it can't handle the stress of living up to "goodness" and it's ashamed and alone and its friends are shallow and worthless as sounding boards or lifelines in the dark.

This is fucking great :mittens:

In fact, it probably deserves its own thread. But I am flattered to Hell and back that you would use it to respond to my rant.

I've got some serious Bitter Tea shit going on right now, it's a relief just having places to vent it. Your OP hits right at the shit nobody wants to hear. Would it be okay to prep for Holy Nonsense or posters or whatever?
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2016, 12:39:40 pm »
The truth is that Good doesn't get shit done. Good is too busy self-policing to get off its ass and do something. Good chops its own legs off before a fight because it's unfair to go into battle fully armed when others don't have access to all the benefits of whiteness, straightness, maleness, ableness, etc. Good is self-congratulatory to the point of vomit inducement, patting itself on the back for using the right pronouns and eating the right food and generally being RIGHT all over the place, like a shining beacon of hope to the masses, but it doesn't put a nickle in the homeless guy's cup. Good never learned to throw a punch.

At night Good collapses into a sobbing wreck because it can't handle the stress of living up to "goodness" and it's ashamed and alone and its friends are shallow and worthless as sounding boards or lifelines in the dark.

This is fucking great :mittens:

In fact, it probably deserves its own thread. But I am flattered to Hell and back that you would use it to respond to my rant.

I've got some serious Bitter Tea shit going on right now, it's a relief just having places to vent it. Your OP hits right at the shit nobody wants to hear. Would it be okay to prep for Holy Nonsense or posters or whatever?

I appreciate that.

And absolutely. I may go back over it and see if I can refine it a little bit, if that's ok. Something about the way certain parts came out just seemed like I was 16 again. Also, if anything like that stood out to you, let me know.
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2016, 12:44:59 pm »
Yeah, take your time. It feels like there are a couple rough edges that could do with some polish, normally I'll do minor changes in phrasing here and there in the process of layout, but you should definitely get first crack at it.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2016, 01:36:33 pm »
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"I am the villain, someone be the hero. If I am to be Evil, then surely there must be someone who matches my Evil with Good to make me pay. Surely there will be justice."
most mofo no wan be caught

Oops, missed this.

The reference above was to that of the mentality of the malignant narcissist.

You see, psychopaths and sociopaths don't tend to be as egotistical as you would think, or as much as you are told. They are egocentric, which is entirely different. Egocentric means that you simply only care about yourself, and you tend to act in favor of yourself.

Egotistical means you act in favor of your ego and your own feelings. You will cut out the truth to make yourself feel better, especially in regards to yourself.

The people who are often responsible for multiple murders, and who are incredibly intelligent but often get caught anyways, are what we call malignant narcissists. They are the people that get hard watching people bleed out, and not just in the basic "I have a lesion on my brain that gives me only sexual aberrance" kind of way. No, these are the people that get hard to it because they want to. They don't just have some wires crossed. They enjoy the pain of others on a deep, thought-out level. These people are egotistical in the most elaborate ways.

One of the ways that they cope with being so terrible, is that they mark themselves as the necessary villain. You see it with the most famous serial killers. They will flat out tell you that they wanted to be caught, and that they knew that they were terrible. They saw it as their purpose in life. It's actually a twisted form of martyrdom, as they usually blame their issue development on something that happened to them as kids, or something society pushed them to do. For example, one of the famous ones like Ted Bundy or whatever, in an interview shortly before their execution, blamed their issues on regular old porn. Now, while porn is not always the epitome of respect, it is not single-handedly capable of creating a serial killer. Him being caught as the terrible, miserable soul that he was, was his way of "outing" society.
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2016, 02:07:19 pm »
I'm leaving the original up as a reference point to compare to the new version. The following post will be edited more later when I'm not so tired as to inhibit intelligent thought.




The greatest piece of fiction, the most influential and most dangerous piece of fiction ever to be created was the assertion that Good always trumps Evil.

It's been the backbone of every major successful story or article of propaganda that has ever been created. It has been beaten into us by the whimsical, but blind majority of story tellers and leaders. It is, in essence, the greatest lie ever told.

It's not unusual that it's so successful. It's positive, and it is good to be positive. But it ignores the simple fact that that has never been the case. Nor has it ever been the case that Good has been fighting Evil at every vantage point, tooth and nail. Good, at all points in history, has been waning, being stripped, bit by bit, to almost nothing.

I've witnessed what mankind is capable of on a person to person scale, in terms of both Good and Evil. You are told that Evil exists in only a few of us. You are being lied to.

Did you think that BH was squicky? I have spoken for long hours with those that would cause even BH to throw up in his mouth. And what I've learned from those people, is that they exist everywhere. They babysit your kid, they work extra hours to feed their kids, they live the ordinary life that you'd expect from just about any sane, decent person. And the only reason they exist in such great numbers now is because people have always assumed that Good always trumps Evil.

You think to yourself, "I'm nothing like those people. They are sick. They were born or made that way by their genetics or their environment."

But then, you haven't been paying much attention to psychology. Environment and genetics may affect your decisions. But do not forget that decisions also affect your environment and genetics. Decisions you make can affect the way your brain functions forever.

The Bad people that leave you unaware of their existence are people that were given a predisposition, and the assumption that Good would triumph in the end. Without that assumption, they wouldn't have been willing to feed their darkest thoughts. They wouldn't have been willing to take that extra step, to seal their potential for greatness into a dark box.

You see, those who make that assumption and end up Bad also assume that that means Good will defeat them in the end. The assumption that drives the killer to be caught.

"I am the villain, someone be the hero. If I am to be Evil, then surely there must be someone who matches my Evil with Good to make me pay. Surely there will be justice."

But if everyone makes that assumption, then that means no one is there to Stand Up for Good and deliver that Justice. They assume someone else will take up that cause, because, after all, Good always triumphs over Evil.

If you are depressed after reading this, it is only natural. Don't let it keep you down. You need your energy to stop Evil. You need your positivity to deal with the reality. You only need to understand that simply knowing that Good is capable of losing is pushing the entire world toward a better path. When you see Evil that you are capable of stopping, do not assume that Evil will fall by the grace of some God or Hero. There is no Savior. There is only the decision to recognize that Good is fallible because People are fallible.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2016, 03:35:39 pm »
I like this as a metaphor, even though it doesn't really map to human psychology.
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