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Or is proving that one is not something a fools game that someone like me with OCD is drawn in to?

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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2017, 02:43:26 am »
Or is proving that one is not something a fools game that someone like me with OCD is drawn in to?

By not doing or saying racist things.  It's just that simple.

You can't prove it by arguing.
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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2017, 03:12:21 am »
I find listening more than I speak goes a long way.
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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2017, 03:14:05 am »
By caring more about the negative effects of racism than whether someone calls you racist.
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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2017, 03:17:50 am »
But really, you can't.

It's sort of like nuclear fall out, you don't just get a pass just because you feel bad.

We live in a society built on bones and blood. Its sort of like when those kayakers got made fun of for protesting an oil company while using petroleum products. There is no other alternative.

Black, Asians, the multitude of others are all capable of engaging in, and incapable of escaping racism. Just like white people. It's just that, through massive apathy and an unwillingness to acknowledge this inherent facet of our society, it's hard to admit that we're all racist as fuck.

Just because you don't want to exterminate people doesn't mean you're not racist.

You can always strive to not be a piece of shit though, as we all must.
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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2017, 03:39:21 am »
Everybody's racist. You grow up in a racist society, you pick up shitty racist ideas even if you are trying not to. Even if you're black. Yeah, that's right; black people in the US are racist against other black people, and against themselves. It's called internalized racism, and it's pretty fucked up. So the one thing we can all do is realize that we all have fucked-up racist ideas and reactions that we don't even consciously know we have, because when you KNOW, you can try to stop. And the very best way to do that is to pay attention to what the people who are affected the most by racism are saying about it.
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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2017, 01:23:58 pm »
It seems the question itself is an indicator against.


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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2017, 03:25:45 pm »
Wait, are we really asking for sound logical proof of a negative, or can we just go with an answer like "sweet, romantic intercourse with members of all other ethnic groups and races"?

I mean, it would at least be an enjoyable way of proving you're not a racist.
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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2017, 04:29:45 pm »
I didn't know there was a magical force-field that prevents racist people's genitals from contacting the genitals of people of different races. Huh.

I guess all that slave owner rape never happened... what a relief for history, huh?
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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2017, 04:32:50 pm »
The question implies there's a state of being one can have where there is no bias, stereotyping, tribalism, or othering.

I question the truth value of that implication.

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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2017, 05:11:56 pm »
A power point presentation is a good way to show people your cultural sensitivity, see the father Ted episode for reference



This sounds like you've put your foot in it with some comment, if so just do the right thing and apologise and move on with your life. It happened to me a few months back at a party when I asked one of the people I was chatting to what part of Asia they were from... That turned out to be Brazil, so as I said you can apologise or move on and forget about it, or you can do what I did: Never show my face in public again, being sure to flagellate once a night while shouting "stupid, stupid, stupid".

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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2017, 05:26:59 pm »
A power point presentation is a good way to show people your cultural sensitivity, see the father Ted episode for reference



This sounds like you've put your foot in it with some comment, if so just do the right thing and apologise and move on with your life. It happened to me a few months back at a party when I asked one of the people I was chatting to what part of Asia they were from... That turned out to be Brazil, so as I said you can apologise or move on and forget about it, or you can do what I did: Never show my face in public again, being sure to flagellate once a night while shouting "stupid, stupid, stupid".

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Sorry Faust, but that's pretty hilariously cringey. I hope they were gentle about it.
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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2017, 05:50:52 pm »
A power point presentation is a good way to show people your cultural sensitivity, see the father Ted episode for reference



This sounds like you've put your foot in it with some comment, if so just do the right thing and apologise and move on with your life. It happened to me a few months back at a party when I asked one of the people I was chatting to what part of Asia they were from... That turned out to be Brazil, so as I said you can apologise or move on and forget about it, or you can do what I did: Never show my face in public again, being sure to flagellate once a night while shouting "stupid, stupid, stupid".

To be fair, the native occupants of Brazil are Asiatic. Even I can't always tell whether someone is Asian or Native without asking.

But this also gives me a great idea... I'm going to start asking white people what part of Europe they're from. This is going to be hilarious!
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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2017, 05:53:39 pm »
The question implies there's a state of being one can have where there is no bias, stereotyping, tribalism, or othering.

I question the truth value of that implication.

I would say that the truth value is nonexistent.

I would also, as QG so aptly implied, wonder about the priorities of someone who is mostly interested in not looking racist.
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Re: How does one go about "positively" proving one is "not" a racist?
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2017, 05:55:07 pm »
I also gotta ask, WTF does OCD have to do with it?
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