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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2017, 03:27:27 pm »
It's not a perfect explanation, but at least it's testable.
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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2017, 03:48:59 pm »
TBH, I was never sold on the alien megastructure hypothesis anyroad. If there is a Dyson sphere up there I don't expect you'd even know there was a star. If you're not collecting all the fucking energy then you're hardly Karadshev Type2, are you. I expect any self respecting Dyson Sphere would look like a small black hole from here.
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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2017, 04:10:19 pm »
TBH, I was never sold on the alien megastructure hypothesis anyroad. If there is a Dyson sphere up there I don't expect you'd even know there was a star. If you're not collecting all the fucking energy then you're hardly Karadshev Type2, are you. I expect any self respecting Dyson Sphere would look like a small black hole from here.

Dyson Sphere was always the wrong term for it. Clusters of solar arrays or an ongoing construction project are plausible if you're willing to accept aliens within the realm of "plausible," but nothing encasing the star.
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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2017, 05:11:23 pm »
TBH, I was never sold on the alien megastructure hypothesis anyroad. If there is a Dyson sphere up there I don't expect you'd even know there was a star. If you're not collecting all the fucking energy then you're hardly Karadshev Type2, are you. I expect any self respecting Dyson Sphere would look like a small black hole from here.

Always questioned the logistics of one personally. If you have a society with the resources to move the quantities of materials into space and undertake the construction in the first place, is it even probable you need to? You've already solved a shitload of problems by being able to do so.

Good sci-fi but falls apart when you talk about the logistics.
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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2017, 06:48:28 pm »
Not if you're using it as a backup battery.

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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2017, 11:54:33 pm »
TBH, I was never sold on the alien megastructure hypothesis anyroad. If there is a Dyson sphere up there I don't expect you'd even know there was a star. If you're not collecting all the fucking energy then you're hardly Karadshev Type2, are you. I expect any self respecting Dyson Sphere would look like a small black hole from here.

Always questioned the logistics of one personally. If you have a society with the resources to move the quantities of materials into space and undertake the construction in the first place, is it even probable you need to? You've already solved a shitload of problems by being able to do so.

Good sci-fi but falls apart when you talk about the logistics.

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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2017, 12:08:28 am »
Never seen it, now I think about that.

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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2017, 12:52:36 am »
Never seen it, now I think about that.

Is it worth it or could you just one line it for me and save me the time?

Um.  Neither.  It's insanely badly written, the acting is shit, and the science is incredibly unscientific...But the story lacks any moral backdrop to support it like Star Trek had.  Also, plot holes you could throw Steve Bannon's ass through.

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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2017, 03:10:27 pm »
I always found the "alien megastructure" thing a silly explanation anyway, because the whole Kardashev thing is painfully presumptuous to begin with. Here we are, can't even agree on what people should be allowed to do with their own bodies because a Bronze-Age god might get pissy, but we are sure we have plotten the course of energy technology for the next five million years. I don't know why anyone takes it seriously.
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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2017, 07:49:35 pm »
I always found the "alien megastructure" thing a silly explanation anyway, because the whole Kardashev thing is painfully presumptuous to begin with. Here we are, can't even agree on what people should be allowed to do with their own bodies because a Bronze-Age god might get pissy, but we are sure we have plotten the course of energy technology for the next five million years. I don't know why anyone takes it seriously.

Nobody does.  Not more than how "serious" the transhumanists were.  Sure, some people get really pissed off about it on the internet, but they get really pissed off about everything.

And I don't see any reason why aliens would be less superstitious than us.  Part of developing the capability to ask questions about the world involves drumming up angry gods as an initial hypothesis.

And I can pretty much guarantee that anything we would recognize as "intelligent life" would cling to that initial hypothesis, for the same reason we do (ie, we don't want to die and we want all of our personal and ideological enemies to burn forever).
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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2017, 09:26:50 pm »
You're probably right. Someone should do some kind of science that produces a graph that maps "ability to harness the stars" against "desire to harness the stars". I think it might show a nice, clean bell curve that begins to drop off somewhere around "society realizes there is no god to die for".
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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2017, 05:28:15 am »
I'm waiting for the Alien race that hates cucks as much as I do.
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Re: Tabby's star possibly not dimming because of Dyson sphere
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2017, 09:41:46 pm »
I'm waiting for the Alien race that hates cucks as much as I do.

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