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« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2005, 04:07:53 pm »
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or they represent faster access to the collective imgination where all previous notions of 'truth' are put to question

tools of isolation?
or the real communication we all been looking for?

repression or expression?


if you dont understand a dream immediately then become familiar with dreams


The video game industry, and a good portion of the inter net are, or are becoming more so PRIVATELY OWNED.  It is the will of the those with money that u will get from the inte rnet and video games.  And yes, video games are a means of further isolating an individual.  Some might say it's brain candy, but I don't see how it brings any of us closer to the core of the human soul/mind other than seperating it from other souls/minds.

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« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2005, 06:20:02 pm »
i guess two people can use the same tool for different purposes



a subtle difference between build and destroy
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« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2005, 07:22:02 pm »
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i guess two people can use the same tool for different purposes



a subtle difference between build and destroy


indeed. indeed. but don't downplay the effect that your unconcious has on you, and how ppl who know that WILL use that for their gain.

using the internet subjects myself to such a thing.

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« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2005, 09:08:47 pm »
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i guess two people can use the same tool for different purposes



a subtle difference between build and destroy


indeed. indeed. but don't downplay the effect that your unconcious has on you, and how ppl who know that WILL use that for their gain.

using the gloryhole subjects myself to such a thing.


true

fuck


the war we fight is so fucking subtle it makes me want to puke
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« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2005, 10:23:41 pm »
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i guess two people can use the same tool for different purposes



a subtle difference between build and destroy


indeed. indeed. but don't downplay the effect that your unconcious has on you, and how ppl who know that WILL use that for their gain.

using the gloryhole subjects myself to such a thing.


true

fuck


the war we fight is so fucking subtle it makes me want to puke


It can be blatant too, but we loose the war when we broadcast it on the inter net, or tv.  Because it then becomes a different context, one that is controlled by Privately owned corporations.  We are in the hands of the ideals and beliefs of an elitist upper class.  They define the context that these "mediums" speak in to a certain degree.  I also believe tho that there is a more chaotic element (or it may seem chaotic to me at least) as to how this "message" is communicated through mediums, that we have no control over.

The transistor and data packet is mightier than the sword!

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« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2005, 10:39:39 pm »
a corporation can own the medium
but
that has nothing to do with the effects that use of the medium can have

you can write ransom notes with government-issued stationery



the fact that we broadcast on 'their' networks means we win teh 'war'
dont it?
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« Reply #51 on: December 14, 2005, 10:43:43 pm »
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a corporation can own the medium
but
that has nothing to do with the effects that use of the medium can have

you can write ransom notes with government-issued stationery



the fact that we broadcast on 'their' networks means we win teh 'war'
dont it?


Sure it does, where, when, and how the product is used and why is decided by the companies.  So no, the fact that we broadcast on their networks means they get a say in things.  That is caving in.

Example, Michael Moore.  His public perception (provided by none other than the film studios who finance and market him) is bad, and SECONDARY to the points he attempts to make in his films/documentaries.

If you have ever watched the News, you'll notice that things are ultimately put in the words of the people who finance and own the media outlets.  And it is not just how they edit it, but the fact that it is shown on TV during such and such time that decides who will listen, and what they will listen to.

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« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2005, 10:51:31 pm »
so somebody has a say in what you just posted?
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« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2005, 12:49:57 am »
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i guess two people can use the same tool for different purposes



a subtle difference between build and destroy


Subtle as a wrecking ball.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre."
- Frank Zappa

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« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2005, 12:51:01 am »
a wrecking ball makes no noise as it sweep thru the air
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« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2005, 12:52:32 am »
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a wrecking ball makes no noise as it sweep thru the air


It does if you swing it fast enough.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre."
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« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2005, 01:06:21 am »
not if its muffled by loud music and infomercials
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« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2005, 01:16:34 am »
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not if its muffled by loud music and infomercials


Not if you swing it fast enough.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre."
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« Reply #58 on: December 15, 2005, 01:18:01 am »
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this can only be settled with a wrecking ball and a stereo


what are the odds we are gonna settle this in the foreseeable future god of vengeful hatred?
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« Reply #59 on: December 15, 2005, 01:19:50 am »
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...


this can only be settled with a wrecking ball and a stereo


what are the odds we are gonna settle this in the foreseeable future god of vengeful hatred?


I think I can round up the wrecking ball.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre."
- Frank Zappa