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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2006, 03:35:41 am »
"Eris" who-tf is Eris? (thanks for the info) ;)
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2006, 07:00:50 am »
Interesting Cain.
My whole life I have been tought that Eris was teh First, pure Chaos.
Then There was Earth, and then Tarturas, and then Eros, then the children, Erebos & Nyx.


Makes me wonder of it all.
*will now do more searches, as I am only going by what I have been taught*
It is hard for me to view Eris, as a child of Nyx. I have seen it the other way all my life.

Thank You for this info.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2006, 09:24:15 pm »
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Interesting Cain.
My whole life I have been tought that Eris was teh First, pure Chaos.
Then There was Earth, and then Tarturas, and then Eros, then the children, Erebos & Nyx.


Makes me wonder of it all.
*will now do more searches, as I am only going by what I have been taught*
It is hard for me to view Eris, as a child of Nyx. I have seen it the other way all my life.

Thank You for this info.


Well, don't let some silly post on a silly bulletin board change your mind just because some silly facts were posted.
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2006, 01:56:09 am »
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Well, don't let some silly post on a silly bulletin board change your mind just because some silly facts were posted.




I'll be sure to mind my change. If any.
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2006, 02:17:54 am »
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Interesting Cain.
My whole life I have been tought that Eris was teh First, pure Chaos.


Whomever taught you was incorrect.

Just saying.
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2006, 02:52:56 am »
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Whomever taught you was incorrect.

Just saying.




 *doesn't remember who tought me*

How much, is actually Written about Eris/Erebos/Ether/Hemera/thewholehappyfam oh
and Chaos ofcourse, from a mythological perspective? And from Who?

Not that I take it to heart, but would make good reading and Myths are interesting to me.
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2006, 03:35:57 am »
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Whomever taught you was incorrect.

Just saying.




 *doesn't remember who tought me*

How much, is actually Written about Eris/Erebos/Ether/Hemera/thewholehappyfam oh
and Chaos ofcourse, from a mythological perspective? And from Who?

Not that I take it to heart, but would make good reading and Myths are interesting to me.


A whole crapload, from Homer on down.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2006, 03:41:13 am »
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A whole crapload, from Homer on down.



Does that list include Hesiod?
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2006, 10:24:54 am »
Best main sources are Homer, Hesiod and Quintus Smyrnaeus, who wrote another account of the Trojan War in the Classical Greek era (4th century BC).  Beyond that, most mentions are minor, such as in the Dionysica or some versions of Jason and the Agonauts.

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« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2006, 01:54:49 am »
I am mighty impressed by your knowledge of mythology!  And I assumed I knew quite a bit...I'm finishing a book that involves mythology.  Namely Eris and Aphrodite among others, so I really scoured the books on them.  Or so I thought.  Great....now I feel inadequate again.
But, seriously, that had to have taken a lot of time...I bet your sight is about to go along with your fingers!
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2006, 10:34:02 am »
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One more tidbit before my fingers drop off

Temple/Cult of Enyo, known as the Phyrgian Goddess Ma.

Also, Phyrgian is a Classical Greek mode (musical scale), noted by Pythagoras as being "Fiery"
and "Unpredictable"... perhaps there was a predisposition?
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2006, 01:42:24 pm »
An interesting lingual connection that didn't occur to me.  Of course, that is actally named after the Kingdom of Phyrgia in Asia Minor, where it was developed.  But since music was an integral part of Greek religion, it is well worth noting.  Thanks.

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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2006, 03:45:08 pm »
I really like playing in Phyrgian.
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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2006, 02:03:06 pm »
Interesting Cain.
My whole life I have been tought that Eris was teh First, pure Chaos.
Then There was Earth, and then Tarturas, and then Eros, then the children, Erebos & Nyx.


Makes me wonder of it all.
*will now do more searches, as I am only going by what I have been taught*
It is hard for me to view Eris, as a child of Nyx. I have seen it the other way all my life.

Thank You for this info.


According to Theogonia , Chaos was the nothingness out of which the first objects of existence appeared. These first beings were Gaia, Tartarus, Nyx, and Erebus. The distinction beetween original Chaos and Eris confused me at first as well. Can Chaos be thought of as a god?

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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2006, 02:11:34 pm »
In earlier Greek myths, Chaos was seen as a god.  In later ones, chaos was seen more as the formless matter from which the cosmos, or harmonious order, was created.

Of course, the Greeks never said Eris was the goddess of Chaos, that was an invention of those tards Thornley and Hill.  Eris means strife, which is different.
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