RAEP IS GOOD MAJIK

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-891321698051955222#

Watch it now, Freeman's stuff (and everyone else's on Google Video) gets axed on May 15th. 

Gah fuck.

Brb downloading fucking everything.

[BadBeast]

Rape is extremely common in conquering Armies, not just in Africa, but Europe and America too. In the first Gulf War, there were many reports of American Soldiers raping women after the fall of Basra. In WWII, one of the reasons the Germans were so quick to surrender to British and American troops, was because they had spent the last year raping their way across Eastern Europe, and they knew they wouldn't get the chance to surrender to the Russians, who had driven them back towards Berlin, because of the atrocities committed.
But the thing is, those men who rape during wartime are not monsters, they're normal, family men who find themselves in the middle of a horrible war. Many of them have difficulty accepting what they've had done, after being demobbed, and while I'm not using this as any kind of justification, it does seem that victory in War, produces some kind of biological imperative in the male of the species, to maximise the spread of his seed. In purely evolutionary terms, these Wartime scenarios are an excellent opportunity for the spreading of the more robust, dominant, genetic strains, which biologically, is good for the species.   As for the "Magic potion" element, people will justify their actions with whatever paradigm is most expedient. In WWII, German Soldiers were led to believe the the Slavic races were "less than human" so it didn't matter. The Russian Army saw it  as one of the spoils of War, and a Soldiers right.  I know it sounds pretty lame, in the cold light of day, but we are talking about Wartime, which tends to throw the rulebook for conventional behavior right out the window.

[E.O.T.]

Rape is extremely common in conquering Armies, not just in Africa, but Europe and America too. In the first Gulf War, there were many reports of American Soldiers raping women after the fall of Basra. In WWII, one of the reasons the Germans were so quick to surrender to British and American troops, was because they had spent the last year raping their way across Eastern Europe, and they knew they wouldn't get the chance to surrender to the Russians, who had driven them back towards Berlin, because of the atrocities committed.
But the thing is, those men who rape during wartime are not monsters, they're normal, family men who find themselves in the middle of a horrible war. Many of them have difficulty accepting what they've had done, after being demobbed, and while I'm not using this as any kind of justification, it does seem that victory in War, produces some kind of biological imperative in the male of the species, to maximise the spread of his seed. In purely evolutionary terms, these Wartime scenarios are an excellent opportunity for the spreading of the more robust, dominant, genetic strains, which biologically, is good for the species.   As for the "Magic potion" element, people will justify their actions with whatever paradigm is most expedient. In WWII, German Soldiers were led to believe the the Slavic races were "less than human" so it didn't matter. The Russian Army saw it  as one of the spoils of War, and a Soldiers right.  I know it sounds pretty lame, in the cold light of day, but we are talking about Wartime, which tends to throw the rulebook for conventional behavior right out the window.

NO, HONEY

          you need to read the op and responses. this is about magic potion rape, not monkey war.

[BadBeast]

Rape is extremely common in conquering Armies, not just in Africa, but Europe and America too. In the first Gulf War, there were many reports of American Soldiers raping women after the fall of Basra. In WWII, one of the reasons the Germans were so quick to surrender to British and American troops, was because they had spent the last year raping their way across Eastern Europe, and they knew they wouldn't get the chance to surrender to the Russians, who had driven them back towards Berlin, because of the atrocities committed.
But the thing is, those men who rape during wartime are not monsters, they're normal, family men who find themselves in the middle of a horrible war. Many of them have difficulty accepting what they've had done, after being demobbed, and while I'm not using this as any kind of justification, it does seem that victory in War, produces some kind of biological imperative in the male of the species, to maximise the spread of his seed. In purely evolutionary terms, these Wartime scenarios are an excellent opportunity for the spreading of the more robust, dominant, genetic strains, which biologically, is good for the species.   As for the "Magic potion" element, people will justify their actions with whatever paradigm is most expedient. In WWII, German Soldiers were led to believe the the Slavic races were "less than human" so it didn't matter. The Russian Army saw it  as one of the spoils of War, and a Soldiers right.  I know it sounds pretty lame, in the cold light of day, but we are talking about Wartime, which tends to throw the rulebook for conventional behavior right out the window.

NO, HONEY

          you need to read the op and responses. this is about magic potion rape, not monkey war.

I read the OP, watched the video, and read the 'magic potion rape' thing as another of the justification mechanisms for the triggered 'rape' behavioral pattern exhibited in Armies.
On reflection, and after watching the freeman vid, I can see that the 'magic potion' rape scenario can also be applied in the Nazi Army's rapefest of eastern Europe, with Meth as the magic potion.
Even the Gulf War/Basra instances could be viewed like this if you take the Drugs given to US (esp) Troops that resulted in Gulf War Syndrome' as being the 'magic potion'.   

[E.O.T.]

Rape is extremely common in conquering Armies, not just in Africa, but Europe and America too. In the first Gulf War, there were many reports of American Soldiers raping women after the fall of Basra. In WWII, one of the reasons the Germans were so quick to surrender to British and American troops, was because they had spent the last year raping their way across Eastern Europe, and they knew they wouldn't get the chance to surrender to the Russians, who had driven them back towards Berlin, because of the atrocities committed.
But the thing is, those men who rape during wartime are not monsters, they're normal, family men who find themselves in the middle of a horrible war. Many of them have difficulty accepting what they've had done, after being demobbed, and while I'm not using this as any kind of justification, it does seem that victory in War, produces some kind of biological imperative in the male of the species, to maximise the spread of his seed. In purely evolutionary terms, these Wartime scenarios are an excellent opportunity for the spreading of the more robust, dominant, genetic strains, which biologically, is good for the species.   As for the "Magic potion" element, people will justify their actions with whatever paradigm is most expedient. In WWII, German Soldiers were led to believe the the Slavic races were "less than human" so it didn't matter. The Russian Army saw it  as one of the spoils of War, and a Soldiers right.  I know it sounds pretty lame, in the cold light of day, but we are talking about Wartime, which tends to throw the rulebook for conventional behavior right out the window.

NO, HONEY

          you need to read the op and responses. this is about magic potion rape, not monkey war.

I read the OP, watched the video, and read the 'magic potion rape' thing as another of the justification mechanisms for the triggered 'rape' behavioral pattern exhibited in Armies.
On reflection, and after watching the freeman vid, I can see that the 'magic potion' rape scenario can also be applied in the Nazi Army's rapefest of eastern Europe, with Meth as the magic potion.
Even the Gulf War/Basra instances could be viewed like this if you take the Drugs given to US (esp) Troops that resulted in Gulf War Syndrome' as being the 'magic potion'.   

IT'S

         the belief system not drug abuse i'm drawing focus to. there's no mention of drugs in the video.

[BadBeast]

It mentions that they were given a 'magic potion' that's effectiveness was accentuated by rape. The belief system, whether Congolese, Teutonic, or Ancient Roman, seems immaterial consideringthe end result of Armies raping the Women of the conquered. 

[E.O.T.]

It mentions that they were given a 'magic potion' that's effectiveness was accentuated by rape. The belief system, whether Congolese, Teutonic, or Ancient Roman, seems immaterial consideringthe end result of Armies raping the Women of the conquered. 

I APPRECIATE

          your input, don't get me wrong. you're throwing in a lot of interesting information. if you pay closer attention to the minutes of 1:20-2:20, you'll see that the rape itself is the potion component, there's no other drug or input which results in the rape, the rape itself is the potion or potion component. the belief that the rape itself will bring results is what i'm addressing. not every person in the video makes a related comment.

[BabylonHoruv]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-891321698051955222#

Watch it now, Freeman's stuff (and everyone else's on Google Video) gets axed on May 15th. 

This video freaked me out.  I'm either having a giant Law of Fivegasm or I have some connection with the mother's of darkness.

[BabylonHoruv]

It mentions that they were given a 'magic potion' that's effectiveness was accentuated by rape. The belief system, whether Congolese, Teutonic, or Ancient Roman, seems immaterial consideringthe end result of Armies raping the Women of the conquered. 

I APPRECIATE

          your input, don't get me wrong. you're throwing in a lot of interesting information. if you pay closer attention to the minutes of 1:20-2:20, you'll see that the rape itself is the potion component, there's no other drug or input which results in the rape, the rape itself is the potion or potion component. the belief that the rape itself will bring results is what i'm addressing. not every person in the video makes a related comment.

This does tie in with the Serbs then.  For them the rape of Bosnians was a symbolic act, not just psychological warfare but a ritual act.

[E.O.T.]

http://www.infosud.org/spip.php?article8526

         so, apparently in the congo, raping infants may guarantee wealth. i guess LMNO was on point when he directed the notion toward magic as an influence in general. from this i'd have to say the issue becomes that of knowing the congolese psychology. i'm not coming up with any cultural comparisons.

http://www.moxdiamond.com/Magic-The-Gathering/Deck/1919/total-white-black-rape.html

         i have no idea what is going on in this game, but several variations on rape come up.

[E.O.T.]

It mentions that they were given a 'magic potion' that's effectiveness was accentuated by rape. The belief system, whether Congolese, Teutonic, or Ancient Roman, seems immaterial consideringthe end result of Armies raping the Women of the conquered. 

I APPRECIATE

          your input, don't get me wrong. you're throwing in a lot of interesting information. if you pay closer attention to the minutes of 1:20-2:20, you'll see that the rape itself is the potion component, there's no other drug or input which results in the rape, the rape itself is the potion or potion component. the belief that the rape itself will bring results is what i'm addressing. not every person in the video makes a related comment.

This does tie in with the Serbs then.  For them the rape of Bosnians was a symbolic act, not just psychological warfare but a ritual act.

TELL

          moar?

[P3nT4gR4m]

I agree with Badbeast, raping the vanquished is purely monkey behaviour. The leaders of any ill-disciplined conscript force know it's going to happen whether they want it to or not so they have two choices - court martial half their army or tart it up with some symbolic bullshit and condone it.

[E.O.T.]

I agree with Badbeast, raping the vanquished is purely monkey behaviour. The leaders of any ill-disciplined conscript force know it's going to happen whether they want it to or not so they have two choices - court martial half their army or tart it up with some symbolic bullshit and condone it.

I THINK WE

         all agree with that point (?) - however, the focus i'm drawing attention to is that rape itself is a magical practice not a result of warfare.

[BabylonHoruv]

I'm trying to source this online and having no luck, most likely the good stuff is in Serbo-Croatian.  My source was a Bosnian refugee so the information he gave me was probably biased and possibly inaccurate but he said that the rape of women by invading Serbs was not just for sexual gratification or demoralization.  According to him when he talked to the women who had been raped they said the Serbs talked about planting the seed of great Serbia and that it was treated very much as a necessary act.  The levels of nested metaphor here (planting a seed, impregnating, spreading a country) look very much like the western magical tradition.

[BadBeast]

I agree with Badbeast, raping the vanquished is purely monkey behaviour. The leaders of any ill-disciplined conscript force know it's going to happen whether they want it to or not so they have two choices - court martial half their army or tart it up with some symbolic bullshit and condone it.

I THINK WE

         all agree with that point (?) - however, the focus i'm drawing attention to is that rape itself is a magical practice not a result of warfare.

So what about singular, non warfare type rape? If the rape itself is a magical act, what is the (supposed) result of the magic?