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#106
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 25, 2012, 05:38:03 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 25, 2012, 05:19:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 25, 2012, 05:10:33 PM
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This is too much for this early. (Note: it is NEVER late enough for this.)

I'm going to go get some booze and hope the horror of middle-to-upper class America!'s beliefs fades.

Making the Truth go away for a while with a bottle is not much different than watching Fox News.

Just saying.  In fact, that was the whole point.

It can help when you need it to though.

I just never really thought about all those times you don't need it to. Goddamn, fell right into your trap ya cunning old bastard.1



1 -- Not to say you were trying to set a trap, per se. More like set me up to see the error of my ways.
#107
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 25, 2012, 05:10:33 PM
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This is too much for this early. (Note: it is NEVER late enough for this.)

I'm going to go get some booze and hope the horror of middle-to-upper class America!'s beliefs fades.
#108
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 25, 2012, 04:47:41 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 25, 2012, 04:41:35 PM
Until I lived amongst them, I thought that the alcoholic hobos just had a disease. "They can't help it, they're addicts." No, they're just a SYMPTOM, a symptom of an altogether different disease.

There are no causes; only symptoms.  And we can deal with those.  We have a pill for that, and we'll use it to make you dumb enough that you don't even notice the stress.  Dumb & happy, that's why Americaâ„¢ has the BEST STANDARD OF LIVING1 in the ENTIRE WORLD.  Unless you don't LIKE nice things, unless you CHOOSE to be poor, because you hate dressage horsies that Mitt Romney's wife was able to recover $78,000 in "losses" on her and her delightful husband's taxes.  If you had the right values, you could have horsies, too.

Or, for that matter, enough to eat and a roof over your head and maybe a little bit of security, finance-wise.

But you don't.  You People believe in all the wrong things.  You People don't WANT nice stuff.  You People want unfurnished cities and whatever it is You People snort or smoke or drink when you gather together in faceless, huddled masses and scare the shit out of Quality People.




1  For Quality People, anyway.

I have all the wrong values, that's true, but I grew up among those who A: had all the right values and B: still managed to fail to be Quality People. Clearly, they weren't trying hard enough. But the funny thing is, these shitnacked pantywaists didn't even have the guts to toss the pink bowties and smelly gym socks of civilization off of their otherwise naked forms. They couldn't even become Us People, they were somewhere in between. I lived in between WITH them, Roger.

It's a horrible place. Not only do you have no Fun, assuming you have the wrong values and like the wrong kinds of alcoholic beverage, you have no money either. you have no Nice Things. You're looked down upon by the people who are better off and the people who are worse off (given the hierarchy the Middle Folk believe in have been indoctrinated with).

I'm glad I got out of there Roger. Nice Things are nice, and maybe if I was patient enough they would have come down the line to me. But Fun is better, and I don't mean parties and controlled substances so much as wild dashes through city streets at 3AM, chasing down some guy who happened to walk past because hey, I need my cardio, don't I?

Even if I'm Us People, we still need our healthy diets and cardiovascular workouts and our transportation, right?

Right?

Actually, I'm beginning to think those things are too Nice for Us People, even. When hotdogs and Pop-Tarts are the only things you can afford to eat once a day, every day, maybe you should just let your arteries go. Those motherfuckers need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps anyway. Can't be babying them forever.
#109
Quote from: Telarus on June 25, 2012, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: Iron Twiddleton on June 25, 2012, 03:56:31 PM

I was quite fond of 24. It does occur to me that it was the perfect form of entertainment indoctrination for America over the past decade.

I didn't have the heart to do it myself.
#110
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 25, 2012, 02:40:33 PM
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:mittens:

I feel the second paragraph most strongly suits me. If I have to actually do anything at all where my brain's important and there's going to be the kind of people around that might call the cops if I start screaming death threats at my sidekicks while they quietly giggle at me (only enraging me further), I load up on SOMETHING.

One time, I drank around 2400 mg of caffeine in a single day for lack of anything better at hand. It works, but you don't want to deal with the results. Believe me. I suppose if you're getting to a certain depth of desperation, you can also TRY to do the same thing with cigarettes. One time I did, but all I got was a bloody hacking cough that incidentally got me out of every lame ass social/"necessary" engagement I had for up to a week afterwards.

Until I lived amongst them, I thought that the alcoholic hobos just had a disease. "They can't help it, they're addicts." No, they're just a SYMPTOM, a symptom of an altogether different disease. The same disease that created me, and that created the post I'm replying to. And they certainly can help it. But that way lies only nightmares and the end state: becoming one of the murderous once-human bogeymen hiding in maintenance tunnels under condemned buildings1. They drink for the same reason Roger has pills and I have dangerously large doses of caffeine and you have whatever keeps you from screaming into every shadowed corner, just HOPING something leaps out so you can finally put a face to the horror, even if you don't survive the encounter. They drink for health, even though it kills them.

Welcome to the REAL America!, folks.


1 -- That isn't a metaphor. Don't break into condemned buildings.
#112
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on June 22, 2012, 02:29:42 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 21, 2012, 05:32:11 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on June 21, 2012, 05:17:18 PM
I dreamed my dog was two different dogs and one of them had a skull fracture and his head healed all crooked.

OH GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE

You fucked up dream dog? It's ok, he'd have probably just turned into Taylor Swift or something equally horrible if I'd slept a little longer.

I also accidentally the entire dreamworld. So, there's that too.
#113
This has more to do with the Madgjiqkcue Richules I do than aliens, though.
#114
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2012, 01:10:01 PM
Have you ever experienced a period of missing time?  Do you wake up covered in scars and cuts you cannot explain?  Do you have many dreams involving flying?  Do you find yourself having a sudden awareness of the unified nature of existence, or an increased interest in ecology and vegetarianism?  Have you ever woken up in bed paralysed?  Do you find yourself getting sexually aroused in the presence of reptiles hairy European folks?  Do the words "Zeta Reticuli" mean anything to you?  Are you starting to find David Icke a compelling, or alternately, an abhorrent figure?  Do you find yourself inexplicably upset when "anal probe" jokes are made?  Do you find yourself wishing The X-Files Twin Peaks was still on TV?

Yes. To all questions.
#115
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2012, 01:55:59 PM
Actually, this is pretty standard, for the CIA.  Even restrained.

Usually, when the CIA gets involved in covert, paramilitary and interrogation programs, there is enough blood to fill several Olympic size swimming pools.  That is, to say, tens of thousands of deaths.  In Vietnam, they undertook torture programs where they tapped metal probes through people's skulls into their brain, obstensibly to see if they could "cure Communism".  When they questioned people, they always did it in threes.  Procedure was to waste the first two, who were usually nobodies and may not even be involved in the Viet Cong, to put the scare on the third.  One of the favourite methods of execution was wrapping det cord around the neck of the prisoner, then blowing their head off.

Not that this makes any of this right.  But the CIA have been much, much worse, in living memory.

Oh of course. I'm not shocked by the CIA, I'm shocked by the fact that this shit gets dug up regularly and not a damn person in the US gives a toss. This shit would be CLEAR THE LINES, THIS ONE'S BIG if it was any other country responsible, or if Poland did that in the US. But because it's us, and it's not next door where the crinimalz vapurs uf EEEVUL will corrupt the children, we tuck it under the bed and say it doesn't fucking exist.

Christ. I wish I had the money for more booze.
#116
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on June 24, 2012, 06:49:46 AM
The up and down part makes it extra hard to dismiss.

That's why I had to say it was odd to begin with in my sensible suggestion. A light as intense as I described would have to be something ridiculous to start, and the up and down even my theory can't necessarily account for.

High fucking Weirdness ITT.

Hey Cain, if you run across this, ask your pals if CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN is in full swing. They might want to hear about this particular Reality Excursion!
#117
My guess is (depending on distance) atmospheric conditions, like what causes mirages, combined with something fucking strange to start with.

If it was a small and extremely intense light of any color but red-orange-yellow, honestly, the result could be a large orb of weird, coppery sort of light (like an incandescent about to burn out) once you take into account possible magnification from atmospheric conditions (temperature layers, pressure gradients, etc). The crescent shape might be something that partially obscured the light early in its journey, well before it got twisted by weird air.

You're on a ship, so I assume you've seen just how weird mirages can get. Well, they get even weirder than that given the right conditions.
#118
Thanks tons, Texas Fairies. Fucking christ.






I'm going to go drink 4 liters of bourbon and hope the terror goes away.

Also: SHOCKFUL!
#119
I had a discussion with someone online. It was all exceptionally enlightening, but... I'll just say this, I had to make logs of this part. And you have to read them. It was the "awakening" for me, that this is REALLY REAL, and REALLY HAPPENING, and is a REAL problem. And it's RIGHT NOW.

FTR, at this point in the conversation we had begun to both believe that Capitalism is just Fascism without a gun in it's face. If anyone wants me to lay out the argument that led to that, I'd be happy to do so.

Also, the whole thing is edited into logical order for clarity, so timestamps may be out of order.

[08:06][nulldusk] kren, do you think its possible, given the slide of the right towards fascist/neo-nazi ideals, that we could see a return of the nazi-esque policies that have been taboo for 60-70 years? racial inequality, nationalism, genocide, etc. my pal from that political forum i mentioned (intl relations fellow) thinks we might be going to see a return directly to hard-line nazi-style fascism. ...i dont want to believe it.
[08:07][kren it] i don't know, i want to say there's no way people could be that stupid again. i mean, we ARE at least more sophisticated in the sense that we will start to notice fascism if its blatent... i think it'll be sneakier than that. it'll creep up on people, it's not like these blue collar republicans and democrats really believe they are latent fascists, they don't understand what fascism was, so they don't see how they are basically playing the exact same historical role, but if somebody showed up and put them in uniform, i think the memory of ww II is way too commonly held and known, nbody is that stupid.. i hope
[08:10][kren it] i mean imagine if your boss showed up one day in an american military uniform.  lol.. that's what happened in nazi germany.  they inducted business leaders into the SS.  that's what it was.  all of the sudden your boss is in uniform: ceo's in miltary uniform
[08:10][nulldusk] ...see, i think thatd be accepted. you dont realize how big patriotism is: i have a pal who walks around town in full military gear, despite never joining up and being homeless. he gets salutes constantly, from all sorts of people.
[08:11][kren it] well. in the u.s. we've never had a leader in uniform. he always wears a suit,  the comamnder and chief is supposed to be a civilian, and this is pretty deep in american psychology, it wasn't in german, italian, or spanish in the mid 20th century.
[08:11][nulldusk] true
[08:11][kren it] but you can be a fascist in a suit... but how do you create other fascists? put them in suits... make them profit from imperialism... i mean that's what it was all about
[08:11][nulldusk] ...oh fucking god, thats scary as hell. we're already pretty much THERE, we just have to flip the goddamn switch.
[08:12][kren it] plugging the common joe into the imperialist project and makig him a beneficiary,telling him he is a nationalist hero. actually, maybe that's what private military corporations are.
[08:12][nulldusk] oh my god. thats too scary.
[08:12][kren it] holyshit. that really makes sense. i didn't even think of that till just now, jesus. WOW. corporate militaries, that's exactly how american fascism would look.
[08:13][nulldusk] so... at this fucking point, we're on the very goddamn cusp. its already all but right in front of us. ...i think i can understand what cain is saying now.

Anyone remember those videos of the private corporate military folks? Rednecks driving around the sandblasted wastes and getting shot at.

And then this:

[08:20][kren it] there's a great movie about an american father whose son was killed in pinochet's chile, he goes down there to find him and he keeps gettnig jerked around by incompetent state department and us embassy employees.  it's based on a true story, and i remember watching it and thinkming that it was like mcdonald's fascism.  like fascists who can't remember to hold the pickles. mctyranny, that's how the u.s. would do it.  we'd have concentration camps but they would be staffed by low wage employees
[08:20][nulldusk] ...bureaucratic incompetency meets nationalist maliciousness.

All sounds very, very familiar and very, very true to me. It was a pretty damn big epiphany.

By the way, I sent this fellow over to The Postmodern Prince, because he's exactly the kind of person who belongs there. You'll hear more from him, I'm sure.

All usernames have been anonymized for the sake of the folks who own them. It's a strangely trusting corner of the internet, first and last name are the norm.
#120
Or Kill Me / Re: Growing Up
June 22, 2012, 03:38:19 AM
Quote from: Lenin/McCarthy on June 21, 2012, 09:52:22 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 21, 2012, 05:29:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2012, 05:21:44 PM
I can advise on Europe, if you want.

The way things are going, though, I would personally recommend not trying the Eurozone.  Given how Syzria have been locked out of the Greek political system by orders from on high, it looks like the masters of the Euroverse have decided that a fascist backlash to austerity is infinitely preferable to a leftist one.

China is slowing, as is the US.  Oddly enough, it's places like Uganda, Angola and Kenya that seem to be showing the greatest economic growth at the moment.  Angola is actually propping up the Portuguese economy right now.  Of course, they are starting off from a lower level, and are still sensitive to global conditions...but I suspect there is a reason Luanda is now the most expensive city in the world, and you're better off looking for a job there than you would be in Spain, with it's 50% unemployment rate for the 18-24 range.

I'm actually considering the EU just because I happen to know some German, to be honest. As for employment -- haha. I've pretty much resigned myself to being a "leech" or a starving artist. Besides, starving isn't all that bad, once you get used to it! :lulz: Besides which, I'm at about that level of mental illness where there is a 0% unemployment rate. I still am not entirely sure why they allow me to walk around with both hands free and nothing in my system that I don't buy to put there myself, but that's how things go, huh?
Sadly, unless you have close relatives living in that country, most countries won't let in likely social service clients. Or you could try to get political refugee status, something you'd be very unlikely to get from any country that has decent relations with the US (in other words, you can still try Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Syria and Venezuela).

Anyway: Welcome! Great rant. Lots of respect to you.

HELLO CHERNOBYL, UKRAINE!1  :lulz: :horrormirth:

Like I said, though, I could live with being a starving artist. Wouldn't hurt me all that badly. And I have pals (off of PD -- these folks actually have offered, it wasn't me having a Reality Tunnel Fracture and begging for aid from anyone and everyone) who would let me live in their closets or sub-basements.

1: I am aware nobody lives in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone itself. But it wouldn't be too awfully far away.