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Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: Cainad (dec.) on May 17, 2008, 11:03:03 pm

Title: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 17, 2008, 11:03:03 pm
Author's notes:

This is a work in progress; I fully encourage criticism and suggestions for changes. I fully acknowledge the irony in writing a manifesto for iconoclasts. In fact, it might be lulzy to try and ruin iconoclasm for everyone by turning it into a meme and duping people into accepting the dogma of challenging dogma.


The Iconoclastís Manifesto

   We reserve the right to hold heretical viewpoints that you find abominable. We hold true that anyone who feels justified in attacking an individual because they have an unpopular opinion can fuck off and die.

   We identify ourselves by our willingness to challenge the accepted dogma, theory, doctrine, or paradigm regardless of the consequences to our social status. We acknowledge that the positions we take may result in our being subjected to more intolerance than conventional wisdom would suggest is wise, but we find ourselves refuting conventional wisdom remarkably often.

   While we generally try to take positions that are based on reasoned arguments, empirical evidence, historical precedents, or any combination thereof, we reserve the right to play devilís advocate just to piss you off and destroy any notion you might have that your ideas are universally applicable.

   We acknowledge that the original use of the term iconoclast specifically refers to the destruction of religious icons, but we may choose to attack cherished beliefs relating to anything, including but not limited to politics, art, religion, philosophy, and identity.

   We reserve the right to change or violate the terms of this manifesto as the individual iconoclast deems fit.

   We reserve rights, period.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Reginald Ret on May 18, 2008, 12:05:26 am
And we reserve lefts too! Rah!
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Jasper on May 18, 2008, 01:05:11 am
I enjoyed.

The tone is a bit unlike how I'd have done it, in a way I don't have words for at the moment, but I liked the message.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Triple Zero on May 18, 2008, 01:26:29 pm
i generally love killing my, or anyone's idols. but this manifesto sort of fails to address why i get the sheer joy from this.

to me, it's more a way of actively protesting and demonstrating that
- nobody is perfect, everyone has flaws
- nobody has "all" the answers
- therefore, nobody deserves your worship
- worshipping an idol means using it as a model to measure yourself against, therefore it is best to be aware of both the postive and the negative aspects of this idol, which also helps to "humanize" them.

.. something like that.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 18, 2008, 08:25:34 pm
I love the ending.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Chairman Risus on May 19, 2008, 02:59:38 am
Burn it.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Takato26 on May 19, 2008, 04:45:57 am
Worship it.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Jasper on May 19, 2008, 05:32:44 am
What 000 said.

The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to ruin it.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 19, 2008, 06:24:05 am
Okay, so what I'm getting is:

1) You, Cainad, are one glorious faggot.

2) Needs moar explanation of why killing idols is so fap-tastically awesome.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Jasper on May 19, 2008, 06:26:14 am
Revel in your heretical filth, not just the ego built around it.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Reginald Ret on May 26, 2008, 02:42:24 am
naah its good this way, adding more text would reduce the readability.
i'm putting this on my wall with only this small change:
The Iconoclastís Manifesto

   We reserve the right to hold heretical viewpoints that you find abominable. We hold true that anyone who feels justified in attacking an individual because they have an unpopular opinion can fuck off and die.

   We identify ourselves by our willingness to challenge the accepted dogma, theory, doctrine, or paradigm regardless of the consequences to our social status. We acknowledge that the positions we take may result in our being subjected to more intolerance than conventional wisdom would suggest is wise, but we find ourselves refuting conventional wisdom remarkably often.

   While we generally try to take positions that are based on reasoned arguments, empirical evidence, historical precedents, or any combination thereof, we reserve the right to play devilís advocate just to piss you off and destroy any notion you might have that your ideas are universally applicable.

   We acknowledge that the original use of the term iconoclast specifically refers to the destruction of religious icons, but we may choose to attack cherished beliefs relating to anything, including but not limited to politics, art, religion, philosophy, and identity.

   We reserve the right to change or violate the terms of this manifesto as the individual iconoclast deems fit.

   We reserve all rights, period.

Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: NWC on May 27, 2008, 02:53:20 am
Okay, so what I'm getting is:

1) You, Cainad, are one glorious faggot.

2) Needs moar explanation of why killing idols is so fap-tastically awesome.

That would generally sum up my response, but with the second point, be sure to keep it succinct. No one wants a TL;DR manifesto  :)
But I like it, good stuff.

And to thusly worship and praise you as the ruler of iconoclasm, I will now cut off my right leg, from just above the Sacred Chao tattoo, and mail it to you.

adrss plz.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 28, 2008, 12:22:57 am
I'll be sure to cook it sous-vide.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Jasper on May 28, 2008, 12:38:35 am
See that you do.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Dido on May 28, 2008, 12:35:50 pm
What 000 said.

The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to ruin it.

How ...mediocre.

The reason I cannot leave anything (or, for that matter, anyone) alone is that some things are too good to be worshiped. Putting something (or somebody) on a pedestal is the quickest and imo cruelest way to kill everything that is inspiring about it.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Triple Zero on June 01, 2008, 05:34:49 pm
What 000 said.

The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to ruin it.

How ...mediocre.

The reason I cannot leave anything (or, for that matter, anyone) alone is that some things are too good to be worshiped. Putting something (or somebody) on a pedestal is the quickest and imo cruelest way to kill everything that is inspiring about it.

mediocre?
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Dido on June 02, 2008, 03:47:31 pm
Did I forget what language I was supposed to speak?  :oops:

Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Cain on June 02, 2008, 08:46:22 pm
What 000 said.

The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to ruin it.

How ...mediocre.

The reason I cannot leave anything (or, for that matter, anyone) alone is that some things are too good to be worshiped. Putting something (or somebody) on a pedestal is the quickest and imo cruelest way to kill everything that is inspiring about it.

"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to tell him to hold something in high esteem"?

Nietzsche would approve.
Title: Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
Post by: Dido on June 02, 2008, 09:16:56 pm
Yep, Fritz and agreed ever since I first got high on Zarathustra.

I defy you to say that getting high isn't the natural first reaction to Zarathustra.