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[Meunster]

I expected everything from college kids experimenting to old elitist snobs.
I did not expect the mean of those two.

[Eater of Clowns]

Yeah well the important thing is that like all people they're just extras in the grand play of your personal experience, filling in the gaps between your periods of deep self absorption and actual agency in the fucking world.

You dick.

[Meunster]

Whoa, hold up.

You forget the person I think is the most useless and meaningless is myself. And I take no pride or superiority in hating myself. Everyone does that.

[East Coast Hustle]

You should go away for a few minutes and don't come back until you've shut up.

[Meunster]

You should go away for a few minutes and don't come back until you've shut up.

Alright

[Chelagoras The Boulder]

I expected everything from college kids experimenting to old elitist snobs.
I did not expect the mean of those two.

I dont think you quite get how means work.

[minuspace]

For Perceptrons, mean values indicate areas of generous feasability.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I expected everything from college kids experimenting to old elitist snobs.
I did not expect the mean of those two.

I dont think you quite get how means work.

[Cain]

So I'm like 95% done on my modlist for the Requiem playthrough, barring RSE getting patched before next weekend.  And even that would be a simple swap and repatch.

However, I am being indecisive about lighting.  On the one hand, I could, with minimal performance impact, install something like this.  It will make the game more realistically darker, which won't matter too much for us (since we won't be using stealth), but it will add to immersion, require the use of light spells/torches in dungeons and other fun stuff.  It would then be easy to add in something like Dynavision for dynamic depth of field, and the job's done.  Climates of Tamriel provides a bit of colour as well as weather support, and the game will look much better.

Or I could use an ENB.  I've done some testing with various ENBs around, and I can still maintain 30FPS while recording using some of the ones based off the latest binaries.  Based off testing, the two that seem most promising are Grim and Sombre - Hircine or Vividian.  However, they are definitely more demanding, and I cannot guarantee a definite 30 FPS in certain demanding zones, like say Riften Market or the road to Whiterun's outskirts.

I'll be recording at 30 FPS regardless, as I cannot guarantee a smooth 60 FPS even without ENBs (Skyrim's engine is basically crap at multi-threading, and for some reason NPCs place a lot of demand on the system), but I thought I should ask here for thoughts.

[Meunster]

I was surprised to find out this guy didn't know who cthulu was.
More surprised when he didn't know what a clit was.

Work was fun.

[Vanadium Gryllz]

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However, I am being indecisive about lighting.  On the one hand, I could, with minimal performance impact, install something like this.  It will make the game more realistically darker, which won't matter too much for us (since we won't be using stealth), but it will add to immersion, require the use of light spells/torches in dungeons and other fun stuff.  It would then be easy to add in something like Dynavision for dynamic depth of field, and the job's done.  Climates of Tamriel provides a bit of colour as well as weather support, and the game will look much better.

Or I could use an ENB.  I've done some testing with various ENBs around, and I can still maintain 30FPS while recording using some of the ones based off the latest binaries.  Based off testing, the two that seem most promising are Grim and Sombre - Hircine or Vividian.  However, they are definitely more demanding, and I cannot guarantee a definite 30 FPS in certain demanding zones, like say Riften Market or the road to Whiterun's outskirts.

I'll be recording at 30 FPS regardless, as I cannot guarantee a smooth 60 FPS even without ENBs (Skyrim's engine is basically crap at multi-threading, and for some reason NPCs place a lot of demand on the system), but I thought I should ask here for thoughts.

The grim and sombre ENB (from screenshots I have seen) seems to make the game very gloomy. Vividian looks better to me but from the sounds of things your first idea with the realistic lighting & Dynavision could work out even better.

I was surprised to find out this guy didn't know who cthulu was.
More surprised when he didn't know what a clit was.

Work was fun.

[Cain]

Vividian definitely gave great performance, I was just looking over my test videos again and it was comparable with so-called "performance" ENBs like Realvision while looking at least 10x better, with the DoF and particle effects and so on.

However, it was a little bright, during the day.  In the shadows, dungeons or at night it looked good, but on a clear day, Markarth looked positively cheery.  It's possible with the CoT patch, this wouldn't be as much of an issue (my testing was done on vanilla lighting).  Edit: CoT and ELE-Lite/Relighting Skyrim looks pretty good.  Also leaves the door open to possibly having Vividian later, as it is already patched for those.

[Cainad (dec.)]

So, Dan Carlin's podcast "Common Sense" has been talked about a little bit on FB today, so I wanted to bring up... the Common Sense with Dan Carlin Facebook group. It is, shall we say, a treasure trove of asshats with a few okay sorts.

What kind of people are in there? Well, let's just say they're already REALLY MAD at Roger and Nigel, they just don't know it yet.

It's kind of hilarious, because the most vocal members of the group are well below the bar set by the podcast they claim to be fans of. Carlin himself is not active in the group.

A few standouts:

Fred, who thinks about global warming every day. The kind of guy who thinks that climate change is not real because Al Gore flies in airplanes. If humanity was killed by an asteroid, Fred would be ecstatic because at least it would mean that the climate scientists were wrong about climate change being the thing that kills us.

Mat, who is the Lord Regent of Strawmania. He can strawman literally any argument you make. It's almost uncanny.

Cam, who I just discovered today is a Dawkins apologist and thinks Ahmed deserved what he got for that clock. He's super mad that people came out in support after the incident.

I'd been keeping it to myself for a while but I decided to share the fun. Being sincere and reasonable is definitely the right way to go with these guys.

[Meunster]

The memes and jokes of today are becoming the reality of tomorrow. 
I'm scared.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

So, Dan Carlin's podcast "Common Sense" has been talked about a little bit on FB today, so I wanted to bring up... the Common Sense with Dan Carlin Facebook group. It is, shall we say, a treasure trove of asshats with a few okay sorts.

What kind of people are in there? Well, let's just say they're already REALLY MAD at Roger and Nigel, they just don't know it yet.

It's kind of hilarious, because the most vocal members of the group are well below the bar set by the podcast they claim to be fans of. Carlin himself is not active in the group.

A few standouts:

Fred, who thinks about global warming every day. The kind of guy who thinks that climate change is not real because Al Gore flies in airplanes. If humanity was killed by an asteroid, Fred would be ecstatic because at least it would mean that the climate scientists were wrong about climate change being the thing that kills us.

Mat, who is the Lord Regent of Strawmania. He can strawman literally any argument you make. It's almost uncanny.

Cam, who I just discovered today is a Dawkins apologist and thinks Ahmed deserved what he got for that clock. He's super mad that people came out in support after the incident.

I'd been keeping it to myself for a while but I decided to share the fun. Being sincere and reasonable is definitely the right way to go with these guys.

Oh my.