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#16
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Stanislav Petrov the end of Days
September 18, 2017, 08:43:10 PM
Quote from: MMIX on September 18, 2017, 08:30:32 PM
I wasn't sure where to put this, but it kind of feels kind of discordio-political. Please move if inappropriate

RIP Lt. Col. Stanislav Petrov. Thanks for Saving The World.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/18/1699419/-RIP-Lt-Col--Thanks-for-Saving-The-World

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    "A Soviet officer who prevented nuclear Armageddon has passed away aged 77. Stansilav Petrov was monitoring radar in Moscow at the height of the Cold War in 1983 when it showed that America had launched a salvo of nukes at Russia.Despite panic among his subordinates Petrov decided not to retaliate, and it was later revealed the radar reading was false - generated by sunbeams reflected off some clouds."

for better or worse he kept the game alive
#17
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 16, 2012, 02:19:22 PM
Quote from: Telarus on February 16, 2012, 01:09:19 PM
plus an assurance that the prison would remain at least 90 percent full,

HAW HAW HAW

funniest thing I heard all day!!!
#19
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2017, 02:41:32 AM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on June 22, 2017, 04:57:17 AM
this is why i'm sincerely hoping we colonize a planet in my lifetime. It's the only semi-possible escape i can see from this madness.

If we can't get our shit together here, we won't be able to get our shit together anywhere else, either. I'm not sure what that would accomplish besides fucking up more planets (which aren't really even ours to fuck up in the first place).

yeah, duh. But imagine the interplanetary football rivalries!
#20
Liberalism (not classical liberalism, but what postures as Liberalism today) is dead

good riddance

The Founders would so not love you assholes

#21
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 29, 2016, 07:50:44 PM
I am not interested in transhumanism or any of that infantile shit.  I am, in this thread, asking how things get done in the future to keep the toilets from exploding and the economy from melting faster than the icecaps and. oh yeah, those.

I'm reading some interesting stuff right now on economics as described rather than "as prescribed".  It's a fucking horrorshow.

nothing major ever happens in mega societies unless it is driven by economics, war or GOD. God is way into "broken window" parables.
#22
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 28, 2016, 05:18:52 PM
This is in response to the weird shit that we've just witnessed.  Anyone who wants to contribute is more than welcome to do so.

Futurism has boiled itself down into two basic groups (leaving aside the wild-eyed dreamers, "transhumanists", and flat-out charlatans.)

First, you have your unbanists.  This includes urban designers, economists (who never sleep at all), ecologists, process/systems engineers, neurology types, medical doctors, that sort of thing.  They worry about stuff like how many liters of water have to be moved out of a city to keep it from drowning in its own shit.  Hurricane Sandy completely overwhelmed the pumps for all 5 boroughs, but they had the shit flowing in the right direction 13 hours later, because some bright folks had sat down ahead of time and said "what if?" 

Urbanists study cities the same way a good oncologist studies you as a patient.  Look for what's there, but also look for what is inferred to exist by what isn't there.   Urbanists require a huge amount of multi-discipline training to be effective...Looking back to the shit question, you need knowledge of fluid dynamics, mechanical knowledge of pipes and pumps, and also what storm surges you might expect in a given area.  They tend to obsess over data, to the exclusion of what's actually going on.

Strategic forecasters, on the other hand, are the guys who obsess about the newest and best ways to put a hurting on someone.  They come up with things like Swarm/AC drones and stoop targeting, stratelites, and other goodies.  This requires slightly less training, but also requires having a mind full of angry wasps and broken hypodermic needles. 

Swarm/AC.  You have one medium drone that does all kinds of processing, using things like DESI and bog-standard facial recognition software.  It selects, for example, the ring leaders in a protest, mostly by the way they walk (or stand still) in the crowd.  It then sends this info to police, etc.  Or maybe it doesn't.  Maybe it sends it to stoop.

Stoop.  Picture a cloud of drones shaped like 10 penny nails, with a little rotor on the blunt end and a disposable fuel & computer packet on the sharp end.  It receives the signal from Swarm/AT, and aims at the ringleader.  The packet and rotors drop off, and the tiny explosive in the flat end drives the drone down into the head of the victim.  Where it also explodes.

It's worth mentioning that strategic forecasters are absolute solutionists.

It may seem like you can pick out the white hats from the black hats by which form of futurism they embrace, but this isn't the case.  ISIS mostly uses an informal kind of urbanism to get their funnier ideas.  They know that cities are our "safe spaces", so most of what they do is aimed at city dwellers.  Including the beheading thing, which Cain could describe better than I can, in terms of psychological impact.

It's also worth mentioning that these people do not work for free.  They in fact have a huge price tag, because the educational requirements are immense.

my money is on the MIC. As long as our mega society is still connected by bare threads they will be the dominant player in CONTROL.

On the other hand if CHAOS should prevail the strategic forecasters and the urbanists won't matter anymore.

Daesh is betting against the MIC. They are clearly TV deprived savages.
#23
Techmology and Scientism / Re: One Community
August 06, 2016, 04:12:40 PM
Quote from: trix on July 27, 2016, 05:47:33 PM
So I searched these forums but was unable to find a thread on this topic so here's one.

At onecommunityglobal.com they are attempting to create a sort of Venus Project / Zeitgeist sustainable community that is both a tourist attraction and an example of modern living in comfort while using only sustainable technology.  I've spent a couple weeks reading nearly everything on their website, which is a LOT of reading and researching, and I have to say I very much like this project

However, some of the terminology they've invented and the way a lot of their ideas are presented makes me a bit... hesitant.  They seem rather heavily Holistic / PETA-ish in their way of addressing many things.  Maybe I'm just knee-jerking to the word "Holistic" and certain terms like "The Highest Good Of All" which reminds me of Grindlewald from the Harry Potter universe. ("The Greatest Good!")

I'm curious as to what the people here may think, being somewhat better than me at spotting bullshit disguised as goodness.

- trix

Thanx for the thread, trix. Just saw it this AM and read the first page of replies.

It seems obvious to me that the purpose for the elaborate web site is either to attract enrollees or to attract crowdfunding.

Oddly I arrived at a position in life wherein I am currently in the process of developing a similar community. At least similar in concept.

I purchased a large piece of land in an impossibly remote location and have gathered a small crew of candidates who want to collectively develop it as a community. The land is so remote that it really isn't even practical to inhabit it unless you import a community to share it with you.

I will be perusing the site to learn what I can from their preps and organization. Thanks again!