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Started by Jasper, September 22, 2008, 08:50:04 AM

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Jasper

Huh.  Okay, and I assume that includes storm drains too?

East Coast Hustle

I don't know if that's actually feasible, but it's certainly a clever idea.
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The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Kai

Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 08:11:57 PM
Huh.  Okay, and I assume that includes storm drains too?

Output of storm drains is untreated, it is simply piped to the nearest stream or lake.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

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Jasper

Quote from: Kai on October 05, 2008, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 08:11:57 PM
Huh.  Okay, and I assume that includes storm drains too?

Output of storm drains is untreated, it is simply piped to the nearest stream or lake.

Right, so those storm pipes could possibly be used to generate power?

Especially if you designed a storm drain system that was meant to generate the most possible power. 

Kai

Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 05, 2008, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 08:11:57 PM
Huh.  Okay, and I assume that includes storm drains too?

Output of storm drains is untreated, it is simply piped to the nearest stream or lake.

Right, so those storm pipes could possibly be used to generate power?

Especially if you designed a storm drain system that was meant to generate the most possible power. 

It could work. Would be event driven however. Only useful in the wettest climates.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Jasper


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 05, 2008, 04:20:40 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 05, 2008, 02:11:10 PM
yeah, it's called "hydroelectric power".

:lulz:

Incidentally, I had an idea.  I'm obviously no engineer, but what's stopping us from getting hydroelectric from certain city sewer systems?

:lulz:

You are trolling, aren't you?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Kai on October 05, 2008, 10:14:40 PM
Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 05, 2008, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 08:11:57 PM
Huh.  Okay, and I assume that includes storm drains too?

Output of storm drains is untreated, it is simply piped to the nearest stream or lake.

Right, so those storm pipes could possibly be used to generate power?

Especially if you designed a storm drain system that was meant to generate the most possible power. 

It could work. Would be event driven however. Only useful in the wettest climates.

In such wet climates, what with there being a river right there and all, and it would take such a quantity of stormwater routed together in a completely revamped drainage system, it might make more sense to just build hydroelectric plants right at the riv... oh, wait.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Kai

Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2008, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 05, 2008, 10:14:40 PM
Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 05, 2008, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 08:11:57 PM
Huh.  Okay, and I assume that includes storm drains too?

Output of storm drains is untreated, it is simply piped to the nearest stream or lake.

Right, so those storm pipes could possibly be used to generate power?

Especially if you designed a storm drain system that was meant to generate the most possible power. 

It could work. Would be event driven however. Only useful in the wettest climates.

In such wet climates, what with there being a river right there and all, and it would take such a quantity of stormwater routed together in a completely revamped drainage system, it might make more sense to just build hydroelectric plants right at the riv... oh, wait.

Right. I was just considering whether it could work, not whether it made sense.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Kai on October 06, 2008, 12:42:13 AM
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2008, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 05, 2008, 10:14:40 PM
Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 05, 2008, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 08:11:57 PM
Huh.  Okay, and I assume that includes storm drains too?

Output of storm drains is untreated, it is simply piped to the nearest stream or lake.

Right, so those storm pipes could possibly be used to generate power?

Especially if you designed a storm drain system that was meant to generate the most possible power. 

It could work. Would be event driven however. Only useful in the wettest climates.

In such wet climates, what with there being a river right there and all, and it would take such a quantity of stormwater routed together in a completely revamped drainage system, it might make more sense to just build hydroelectric plants right at the riv... oh, wait.

Right. I was just considering whether it could work, not whether it made sense.

Yes, of course. :) I'm sorry you were caught in the wake of my mockery, I know you would not be so silly.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


East Coast Hustle

Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 10:17:04 PM
Oh, this is interesting.

http://earthanet.com/2008/01/28/plasma-arc-gasification-turning-garbage-into-gas/

Garbage into energy. 

they turn trash into energy at a plant near where I live.

the people downwind of it have the most justifiable case of NIMBY ever.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Kai

Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 06, 2008, 03:16:45 AM
Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 10:17:04 PM
Oh, this is interesting.

http://earthanet.com/2008/01/28/plasma-arc-gasification-turning-garbage-into-gas/

Garbage into energy. 

they turn trash into energy at a plant near where I live.

the people downwind of it have the most justifiable case of NIMBY ever.

Yeah, just think of all those VOC's and toxic/heavy metal particulates raining down on the countryside or the oceans.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Jasper

Quote from: Kai on October 06, 2008, 03:27:11 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 06, 2008, 03:16:45 AM
Quote from: Felix on October 05, 2008, 10:17:04 PM
Oh, this is interesting.

http://earthanet.com/2008/01/28/plasma-arc-gasification-turning-garbage-into-gas/

Garbage into energy. 

they turn trash into energy at a plant near where I live.

the people downwind of it have the most justifiable case of NIMBY ever.

Yeah, just think of all those VOC's and toxic/heavy metal particulates raining down on the countryside or the oceans.

I'd be interested to know if they're using plasma arc gasification.  Only a couple places have started using it so far.

Jasper

Just burning garbage isn't what I'm talking about.

It uses plasma.
http://www.rexresearch.com/circeo/circeo.htm

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I do honestly, at least in my river-rich region, think we need a lot more modern, dam-free hydropower plants.

Felix, plasma incineration seems promising... did you read the whole article?

Here is a related article:
http://www.slate.com/id/2181083/

I honestly think garbage-to-ethanol systems are a better bet, but who knows... the next 15-20 years should reveal a lot.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."