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#1
I've been to a few shows at their LA school. They get SNL and MadTV people preforming there all the time. Its an excellent environment... And they shows are usually like 10 bucks, regardless of who is preforming.

...They also do kids shows.
#2


"A white supremacist with a distaste for baseball."


<3
#3
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Anatomy of a Meme
December 29, 2007, 08:57:48 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on December 17, 2007, 09:54:44 PM
This paper: http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/Conf/MemePap/Marshall.html "The Internet and Memetics" had some very interesting points about how memes are used on the internet to create a sense of culture -- and how that culture, over time, gets narrower and narrower.

The interesting part of this paper is section 4 - Memetics at the user level. Which I will quote for you here. Bold emphasis added by me to mark the parts and phrases I found most interesting.




QuoteThe Internet...


Solid Gold Hyper Mittens. Such fucking good points! Where do you get all these gems?
#4
Quote from: Kaou Suu on July 13, 2007, 02:43:49 PM
Try the veal!


This was the only thing in this thread that made me laugh. And i laughed HARD.

#5
Quote from: Mangrove on September 09, 2007, 02:05:34 AM
Pterodactyl - the only way to fly.

You can get high on pterodactyl?
#6
Literate Chaotic / Re: Core Themes of Discordia
August 21, 2007, 01:34:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 21, 2007, 12:53:34 AM
Well, you know the reason for my PM now... 8)

Hunter and RWHN know the territory...LMNO is far more reasonable than me when confronted with stupidity (I deal with intelligent yet stupid people every day) and we have previous experience of tag-teaming on other forums.

I'm sure as we entrench ourselves more, it will be easy for more of PD.com to enter without comment.  Percieved invasions always get people defensive, so over a period of days works best.


Eh, MySpace has nowhere NEAR the solidarity of other... 'forums'. Besides, the kind of Discordians that reside there seem to have no concept of "threat".

Sad for them, but all the better for us.
#7
Literate Chaotic / Re: Core Themes of Discordia
August 17, 2007, 07:07:19 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 17, 2007, 06:39:19 PM
Bullshit may make the flowers grown, but a crock of your own shit will give everyon else e.coli.


Thats going on a t-shirt.


:lulz:
#8
Literate Chaotic / Re: Core Themes of Discordia
August 17, 2007, 05:41:28 AM
Quote from: PeregrineBF on August 17, 2007, 03:27:40 AM
"Um... yeah.
Wouldn't it be easier to say "all is one", and stop the conversation right there?"

Not really, since all isn't one. That's silly.
All can be represented by a point traveling through phase space, but the sheer number of dimensions needed to do so is insane.
One needs position, momentum, charge, mass, strong & weak nuclear force, etc. So at least 10 dimensions for each of the 10^80 particles in the universe.
So all is 1/(10^82) and that one keeps jumping around constantly. And it's actually a lot bigger than that.


Let's give religion 4 paramaters:
A, B, C, and dT.
A = Number of Gods believed in.
B = Number of Commandments
C = Average number of small children molested by the clergy, per week.
dT = 0.03 because that's a good number, and it makes what I'm doing next look nice, though that won't change the point in any way whatsoever.

We'll plot points with X, Y, Z co-ordinates as follows:
x'=x+ad(y-x)
y'=y+d(bx-y-zx)
z'=z+d(xy-cz)

...

So if someone tells you they are seeing that the universe is truly One and that they are One with everything, they are lying.

So, yeah. Discordianism one particular path through the set of all beliefs in the phase space of all beliefs, and unlike most religions our path hits every point in the phase space, though not all with equal frequency.





             Well it makes perfect sense to me.
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#9
Literate Chaotic / Re: Core Themes of Discordia
August 16, 2007, 09:55:11 PM
#10
Literate Chaotic / Re: Core Themes of Discordia
August 16, 2007, 03:46:40 AM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on August 16, 2007, 01:44:35 AM
Quote from: Shinigami715 on August 15, 2007, 11:55:46 PM
Also, where's the ole' Professor? I wanna know if i thinks QE and Lulz are actually themes of Disco, or just a side effect.

            Being THE AUTHORITY on Discordja,
           I'm glad you asked me that, Shinigami.
                               


Its your thread, so im guessing you gave it a good 15 seconds more thought than everybody else. Besides, with a name like Professor, i should hold you on an unreasonably high pedestal, like a proper asshat would.

Actually, i was waiting for the, "The n00b turned this into an fsking art discussion."

So really, mindfucks are central to disco, that was pretty much given... And i think lulz are kinda required, for it to be Discordian.



















Quote from: Professor Cramulus on August 16, 2007, 01:44:35 AM

...and the Muppet Show's recurring themes were actually a cultural replication of Schr??dinger's cat experiment...


You saying this not troof?
#11
Literate Chaotic / Re: Core Themes of Discordia
August 15, 2007, 11:55:46 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 15, 2007, 03:18:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 15, 2007, 12:59:00 PM

Dada, as an art movement, wasn't based on "no meaning".  It was strongly politically (anti-war) based, and revolved around irrationality and a rejection of the "rules" of art at the time (early 1900s).

While I suppose you could argue that since the "rules" of art placed a value on the "meaning" of the piece, then Dada was art without meaning, I feel that only meant "meaning" in a very limited, traditional sense.  The Dadists created with a purpose, a "meta-meaning" if you will.

One of the other intents of Dada seems to have involved breaking down the separation between the artist and the audience. To make the artist and audience a inextricable mix, where the audience itself was necessary to the creation of the art. Rather than the art being presented to the audience, the art existed in the neurological system of the audience, the audience's consciousness because the canvas and the "dada works" became the brushes and the pigment.

This seems very similar to how many Discordians feel about their "religious rituals" ;-)



The more i think about it, Dada was a terrible example... I have my biases about Dada, and the results of the artistic movement always left me very unsatisfied, and i felt the movement sort of ate itself while trying to accomplish its goals... At the same time, Discordian is the same, the difference being that we've survived with alot more credibility. I guess i've been thinking about Dada the way most people think of Discordianism, and i think i might be doing myself a great disservice.

My POINT with the statement, was the Discordianism has meaning without intention, and follows up with meaning and LESS intention, resulting in a very flexible meme. Dada, on the other hand, is little meaning, with ALOT of intention, and is very inflexible, and usually does not result anything like a meme. (Ironic, because the one that isnt really TRYING to do anything gets around, while the one trying to change things cant move at all)

Though, considering pop art, and Warhol's artistic juxtaposition of everyday things, and then the juxtaposition of his art into everyday LIFE, and then those lives put on screen, and that art being used to define characters... Pop Art seems alot more viral, and alot more Discordian. If there was some kind of combination of the mindfuckery of Dada and the virality of pop art, we'd either end up with Discordian art, or just fucking Discordianism, which some of us already consider an artform. (In which case, we need to start a fucking art revolution. Theres money in that shit)

Also, where's the ole' Professor? I wanna know if i thinks QE and Lulz are actually themes of Disco, or just a side effect.
#12
Literate Chaotic / Re: Core Themes of Discordia
August 15, 2007, 03:09:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 15, 2007, 12:59:00 PM

While I suppose you could argue that since the "rules" of art placed a value on the "meaning" of the piece, then Dada was art without meaning, I feel that only meant "meaning" in a very limited, traditional sense.  The Dadists created with a purpose, a "meta-meaning" if you will.


Thats how i look at it. Plus, whenever i meet a Neo-Dadist, i can safely assume they have no intention for anything, at all, ever... but its debatable. Dada was PROBABLY not the best example, but i couldnt think of anyone who made less sense off the cuff.

And i knew that opening line would keep people from reading the rest of a n00bs post. Thank you for getting past it.

QE IS MUCH WIN! *writes note to self on how to WIN for further occasions.*
#13
Literate Chaotic / Re: Core Themes of Discordia
August 14, 2007, 09:35:23 PM
The core elements of Discordianism, as far as i can tell...


Are that it is not Dada, with no meaning in our creation, but more Chaos, without intended meaning, though there is ALWAYS meaning. If art has no meaning, the world has no meaning, but if art means fish, then the Cao is pleased.

And thats what it all revolves around. Puns that revolve around meaning, that revolve around other puns, ultimately leading to a complex definition of a double entendre universe. It is in constant conflict with the world of SET definition, or Order, but at the same time, could not exist without it. Its also based on cultural and social circumstances that also have double meanings. This is part of a little Discordian vortex i call the Quintuple Entendre. It could be called "Literary Numerology", but instead of the Order-based numerology, theres nothing that QE really revolves around, like 23, or any real POINT to understanding it. Its purpose is mostly to be funny, and discordians would consider it a religion, because a discordian, when truly wrapped and warped in the Goddess' embrace, would find EVERYTHING funny.

Case and point... A penis is a organ, so someone would say "Im gonna go play my organ ..."  The first entendre. Its not something we wouldnt see somewhere on the forums. Then someone would say "Im gonna play my KAZOO!!!" Same idea, but then, not really, because at that point he might not be talking about the same thing, or he might just say it to be FUNNY. Then "If he plays his kazoo, im gonna kill a motherfucker." The leap still hasnt been made, because he could still be talking about either masturbating, or playing an actual kazoo. The difference here, is that now theres the issue of someone actually being mad, or just fucking around, or whatever. The more intentions, the more possiblities for the next move. Then, "IMMA GO ALL REDNECK ON YOUR ASSES AND PULL OUT MY BANJO." Fourth entendre, allowing for great WTFing and giving the greatest number of possibilities for the fifth entendre. Lets say it was "IMM GO ALL BANJO ON YOUR ASSES AND PULL OUT MY REDNECK." The fifth entendre allows for great lulz, while also being a 'religious' practice.


So basically, ambiguity is a big discordian theme. You wouldn't think it by looking at us, but we're COY motherfuckers.
#14
Literate Chaotic / Re: Favorite Song Lyrics/Poetry
August 11, 2007, 08:06:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 11, 2007, 01:57:44 PM
That is a good song by them, surprisingly.  I find myself singing the "I can't decide whether you should live or die" line at inappropriate moments, which is always fun.

Yeah. The humor of murder is a good enough reason to listen to Neo-Disco, as far as im concerned.
#15
Literate Chaotic / Re: Favorite Song Lyrics/Poetry
August 11, 2007, 06:25:42 AM
SCISSOR SISTERS always have the best fucking lyrics. Because they stopped giving a fuck.


"I Can't Decide"

It's not easy having yourself a good time
Greasing up those bets and betters
Watching out they don't four-letter
Fuck and kiss you both at the same time
Smells-like something I've forgotten
Curled up died and now it's rotten

I'm not a gangster tonight
Don't want to be a bad guy
I'm just a loner baby
And now you're gotten in my way

I can't decide
Whether you should live or die
Oh, you'll probably go to heaven
Please don't hang your head and cry
No wonder why
My heart feels dead inside
It's cold and hard and petrified
Lock the doors and close the blinds
We're going for a ride

It's a bitch convincing people to like you
If I stop now call me a quitter
If lies were cats you'd be a litter
Pleasing everyone isn't like you
Dancing jigs until I'm crippled
Slug ten drinks I won't get pickled


I've got to hand it to you
You've played by all the same rules
It takes the truth to fool me
And now you've made me angry

I can't decide
Whether you should live or die
Oh, you'll probably go to heaven
Please don't hang your head and cry
No wonder why
My heart feels dead inside
It's cold and hard and petrified
Lock the doors and close the blinds
We're going for a ride

Oh I could throw you in the lake
Or feed you poisoned birthday cake
I wont deny I'm gonna miss you when you're gone
Oh I could bury you alive
But you might crawl out with a knife
And kill me when I'm sleeping
That's why

I can't decide
Whether you should live or die
Oh, you'll probably go to heaven
Please don't hang your head and cry
No wonder why
My heart feels dead inside
It's cold and hard and petrified
Lock the doors and close the blinds
We're going for a ride