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I find it sad so many people like modern rubbish, but each to their own I guess.
If anything I just feel sorry for you all, because you never had what I had growing up. The chance to see the best musicians in the world playing live progressive rock or heavy metal.
I'm sorry.

I find it sad so many people like being fucking stupid, but each to their own I guess.
If anything I just feel sorry for Latchingdon, because you never had what I had growing up. The chance to not be an idiot and listen to more than one or two genres of music.
I'm sorry.

Yes. They still sound terrible, and their "music" is simple, there is no intelligence put into it. Show me someone who uses a computer but can play 20 minute guitar solos or drum solos without fucking up and I'll give them props.

Show me someone who uses a computer but can play 20 minute guitar solos or drum solos without fucking up and I'll give them props.

who uses a computer but can play 20 minute guitar solos or drum solos without fucking up

20 minute guitar solos or drum solos

ITT: Yngwie Malmsteen's first actual fan

Quote from: Reverend Latchingdon on Today at 11:50:09 AM
Quote from: null & void on Today at 11:49:09 AM

I'd just like everyone to note those times. HE DIDN'T EVEN LISTEN TO IT.

Way to fucking fail, pal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssyWiarVOi4 Angelspit - Juicy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgk1qlJrxlE The Protomen - Keep Quiet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFL3IndNqDw End.user - Shotgun Anthem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Z4tRu4RJA&feature=related Akufen - Quebec Nightclub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0iDOm9jWwU&feature=related Atrium Carceri - Halls of Steam

None of these sound alike. You might be able to draw comparisons, but they are all in completely different genres. They are also not formulaic in the least with the possible exception of the Akufen song.

Just shut up before you embarrass yourself more regarding music, Latchingdon.

Actually as someone who spent 6 years at music college I have every right to judge music and will tell you for fact, that is NOT music.

Granted, you have the majority agreeing with you but that is how life is now. Blind to modernism killing the music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssyWiarVOi4 Angelspit - Juicy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgk1qlJrxlE The Protomen - Keep Quiet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFL3IndNqDw End.user - Shotgun Anthem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Z4tRu4RJA&feature=related Akufen - Quebec Nightclub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0iDOm9jWwU&feature=related Atrium Carceri - Halls of Steam

None of these sound alike. You might be able to draw comparisons, but they are all in completely different genres. They are also not formulaic in the least with the possible exception of the Akufen song.

Just shut up before you embarrass yourself more regarding music, Latchingdon.

Got a friend into Hip Hop. He's been listening to Jay Z and was all wow look at his new vid. It's full of occult references and shit to do with freemasons..etc

He basically said, look Jay Z is in the Illuminati or some shit based off an article on this site http://vigilantcitizen.com.

I basically was saying to him, the guy is a narcissist and thinks he's the shit, as is the attitude of every Hip Hop artist. Why wouldn't he want to make himself out to be some sort of major head in the international conspiracy/new world order?

Anyone ever hang out on this site.

Here's a link to the particular blog entry.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1948

Jay Z is one of the biggest heaps of crap to ever call himself "hip hop".
He has no idea what music is.

... Says the man who listens to ICP.

Uh... .I don't listen to ICP.
I listen to actual music, such as The Beatles, Deep Purple, The Kinks, pretty much any 60's music and Classical.
You know, bands who know what music actually is.

Wait.  So your personal taste dictates what is and is not real music?

A lot of people have asked me that, and the fact is no... There are many bands out there I don't like but can still see them as muscians. But let's face facts... the 1960's was the best decade for music - everything was good, as everyone learnt music the proper way. Going to music lessons, music schools, and learning how to play instruments.

No. the 1960s did have good bands, but they were no better or worse on average than today. You're just retarded.

also, people who think music has to contain live instrumentation are, well, pretty fucking willfully ignorant about the nature of music.

No, sorry. A musician doesn't have to know how to play or sight read - but live instruments do make music better than a digital track programmed into a computer. Computer prgorammed music is boring and predictable. Live music is unique. No computer will ever top that. I should also add, that computers are often used to edit out peoples bad vocals or playing, cut and paste in attempts to make the so called "artist" sound better than they are.

COmputer programmed music is boring and predictable? I can disprove that. After this post, I will. Also, normal #-track recordings (like were used IN THE 60S) are ALSO used to edit out badly recorded lines. Way to fucking fail.

Actually actually, the only fail would be anyone who says that Jay-Z is "crap". Anyone who considers Jay-Z crap obviously has something very very wrong with them. Even if it isn't your type of music, you cannot deny his lyrical talent. That is ultimate fail.

Please don't be a moron. Jay-Z has no talent, so why bother defending something like that. He's just an idiot that got lucky.

Jay-Z is very talented. I say this from the perspective of someone who thinks the popular music of today has little to offer -- meaning you're probably a narrowminded little shit. Wait, you think only the 1960s was the best decade for music. Make that narrowminded bit a certainty.

000, it's fine to try.  Striving to make the world a better place is great.

But again, RWHN is the only person dealing with what's happening right now.

Yes, but I don't think we were exclusively talking about what RWHN is doing, were we? I mean, not everything is related to RWHN's job? (if only for the fact that he focuses on Maine, USA)

You might not have been; I was.  Every time he talks about his job, he gets jumped on by the rest of the board with spurious and utopian objections, which ignore what he actually does, the reasons why he does it, and the information he has gathered in the process.

Not by me.  I think RWHN does good work.

Drugs are a form of slavery, though obviously some exceptions exist (weed isn't on the same level as meth, for example).  I do not believe that weed should be illegal, but I see no valid argument for the legalization of, say, PCP.

Agreement with Roger on all points.

Then what am I expected to do, LMNO? Just living my life isn't going to work, I tried that. It could have ruined me for good if I had left it alone.

Am I expected to just keep doing as I am with the knowledge that one day everything I've worked toward will be completely and permanently annulled when the police come knocking?

Okay, because I think legalization would be a good idea, I'm ganging up on RWHN. And I'm lying about how irreparably fucked in the head I am just so I have an excuse to get high.

Fuck you. I was going to try to be reasonable about this, but you just showed you're incapable of reasoning when it comes to this discussion. Oh, and implying I'm a liar (twice, even) is not cool. It's actually pretty fucking shitty.

Like I said: fuck you.

I respect RWHN. I'm not saying people who have problems are "acceptable casualties." I'm saying the problem is overstated and illegal weed hurts more than it helps.

For example, I self-medicate with pot. It gets rid of many problems I have almost completely -- and it's not just the high. That wears off in an hour or two, the stabilizing effects last me a good 3 days. Oh, I've tried doctor prescribed drugs, believe me, they don't do shit for me -- in fact, all of them so far just make it worse. And to go without? Kai can tell you what I get like when under stress without any medication, illegal or otherwise. It's not pretty.

To be fair, when I started pot, all my life's problems sort of worked together to push me into a hole where I was drug-dealing to eat and in a truly bad mental state. But here's the important thing -- normally, I would have left that go. I'm a passive person, when shit goes wrong I'm more likely to bear it than try to change it. In this case I fought my way up, and I'm now literally on the doorstep of fulfilling a lifelong dream with game development (thanks to all the PD people helping me do this!). I have actual friends in real life, something I have literally never had before. And consider that if I got busted now, I'd be in jail. I'm literally caught in a decision between living the cliche of basement-dwelling social outcast in a shitty victim "There's nothing I can do" mindset or risking every day going to jail.

Am I an acceptable casualty, LMNO?

PERFECT.

I had to keep reminding myself this was The Onion. It read like a snarky piece written by a normal journalist.

COOLEST THING EVER.

This is all "Well, duh" shit to me.

But yeah, definitely should be legal.

http://www.imeem.com/groups/-TkCP_Lv/music/N1dKXw9q/steril-american-dream/
Steril - American Dream

Also, RCH, LCN is fuckin' awesome. Up there with Dynospec in terms of badassery, IMO.

I love how occult detractors always mention the placebo effect as if it dismisses the whole thing. Thing is any serious occultist will agree with you. We know it's the placebo effect - that's why it works! It's like looking at a car and saying "Ah but that's just the internal combustion engine doing that - the car isn't actually moving"

Now STFU or I'll turn the lot of you into fucking newts! 

BRING IT ON