QUESTION FOR THE PD.COM ETHICS COMMITTEE

[Cainad (dec.)]

Okay, take this situation:
1) My aunt and uncle, "T" and "R" live in my grandparents' house because they are both out of work and the grandparents are old enough to need someone in the house to care for them.

2) "T" cannot work a regular job because she is mentally disabled from a head injury, and "R" is trying to recover from a massive retinal tear that requires a lot of time and rest to heal. Sustained high blood pressure is enough to prevent it from healing properly, in which case he will be permanently blind in that eye. Oh, and his other eye is forming a cataract.

3) My grandfather is aged and ailing, and my grandmother is even more so. She may be on her way out.

4) Two of my aunt's sisters, my aunts D1 and D2, are both healthy, employed, married to husbands who are healthy and employed, and own homes.

Now, given these circumstances, consider that D1 and D2 have "found" some evidence of computer misconduct (on a computer which D1 stole from her job) by T and R. D1 and D2 have pressed upon my grandfather, who is ancient and preoccupied with the poor condition of my grandmother, his wife of 50 years, to have T and R thrown out of the house.

T and R own nothing but the clothes on their backs and a car. They have done nothing but help my grandparents in their old age. They are unable to work, and putting R in a stressful situation and preventing him from resting will cause him to go blind in one of his eyes.



So my question for the PD.com ethics committee... this is not okay, ever, right? This is the sort of thing you disown relatives over, yes?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

YES. Not OK, at all!

[Cain]

I disowned my relatives over much less.  Their idiocy stemmed from neglect, not malice.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

What kind of "computer misconduct"?

The first thing I couldn't help thinking is that D1 and D2 are afraid T and R will inherit the house, and they want them out to make sure they get their cut of the house... which is horribly selfish.

[Corvidia]

Unless there's something seriously bad going on, like T or R abusing your grandparents, then no, it's not ok. It doesn't sound like there is, so what the hell is wrong with D1 and D2? Their very own sister? Even if I hated my sisters, I'd never throw them on the streets. Not to mention the (free) care they're providing for your grandparents and your uncle, who they could be indirectly permanently disabling!

I'd disown them. Loudly and publicly. And I'd talk with your grandfather, too, though I'm sure he's well aware that your aunts are gigantic douche bags.

I disowned my relatives over much less.  Their idiocy stemmed from neglect, not malice.

Ditto.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

VERY WRONG!  I agreee with Nigel, D1 & D2 are worried being there will put T & R higher on the inheritance list....

[Cainad (dec.)]

What kind of "computer misconduct"?

The first thing I couldn't help thinking is that D1 and D2 are afraid T and R will inherit the house, and they want them out to make sure they get their cut of the house... which is horribly selfish.

Apparently D1 "found pornography" on the computer.

D1 gave them that computer, which she stole from her job at Apple. It had been listed as destroyed because it was used to run technical tests, meaning it was never supposed to be used. Who knows what kind of shitfuck stuff got put onto their computer through security holes and whatnot.

Also, T used to write romance novels. I don't know the details but for all I know D1 snooped through and found a racy chapter or something.

(And even so, all this over porn? Really? Bullshit.)

So basically D1 spent god knows how long snooping through their files (pretty typical behavior for her, really) and got them thrown out of the house over something she found on a computer which she stole and then gave to them.

Call me crazy, but you haven't got a leg to stand on if you give someone stolen and potentially defective property and try to get them in trouble for something on it.


It probably is over the house. D1 is the real instigator here; D2 is just her twin sister who probably sided with her on principle. D1 is a greedy, selfish, and stupid Rush Limbaugh listener whom I now believe is very capable of doing something like this and wheedling my ailing grandfather into putting her higher on the inheritance list, as Khara put it.

[Arafelis]

D1 is a greedy, selfish, and stupid Rush Limbaugh listener...

And you haven't disowned her already because...?

[Richter]

Your grandfather having a clear view of things would work out best in this.  Does he retain a lawyer for anything related to his healthcare / Will / Power of Attorney?  Can't do much about evicting, but can sort out money -sniffing family members.

D1 + D2, if they're pushing for eviction, will likely try to maximize the drama to make it apparent to Grandad.  If T and R can force them to do this to the point they seem unreasonable, they defeat themselves.

[Triple Zero]

obviously totally not OK.

and what's the deal about throwing someone out of the house for finding porn on a computer? is it kiddie porn? or is it some kind of weird religious thing going on?

[Triple Zero]

addition, if R is going to lose eyesight over this whole matter, it might be important to somehow get him outside of the whole situation (in any sense) as quickly as possible. regardless of whether this is OK or not, or a religious thing or not, or right or not, relatives can be CUNTS. even if legally they can't do shit, they still will make him miserable and therefore stressed.

[Thurnez Isa]

sign two of these out (best make it formal)
http://bureauofcommunication.com/compose/air

then give it to them individual in front of your grandfather

then never speak them again... even if spoken to

[Corvidia]

^ That.

addition, if R is going to lose eyesight over this whole matter, it might be important to somehow get him outside of the whole situation (in any sense) as quickly as possible. regardless of whether this is OK or not, or a religious thing or not, or right or not, relatives can be CUNTS. even if legally they can't do shit, they still will make him miserable and therefore stressed.

I dunno if you live at home or not, but if you don't, you could offer R a place to stay while this all gets sorted out so he doesn't go blind. Or talk to your folks, of course.

[Template]

I'd upgrade from disowning to maiming over such vicious nonsense.  But that's me.

In any case, get pics of the computer, serial visible, next to a current newspaper.  Send to Apple.

[Cainad (dec.)]

Your grandfather having a clear view of things would work out best in this.  Does he retain a lawyer for anything related to his healthcare / Will / Power of Attorney?  Can't do much about evicting, but can sort out money -sniffing family members.

I think we've considered this, but nothing has come of it yet. Of course, D1 has already set up grandpa's bank account such that he can't even view his bank statements without her there. He's old and easily influenced, but not delusional.

D1 + D2, if they're pushing for eviction, will likely try to maximize the drama to make it apparent to Grandad.  If T and R can force them to do this to the point they seem unreasonable, they defeat themselves.

They've already succeeded. T and R are in a motel and completely devastated.

I dunno if you live at home or not, but if you don't, you could offer R a place to stay while this all gets sorted out so he doesn't go blind. Or talk to your folks, of course.

T and R would almost definitely be living with us if they weren't on the other side of the country.

And you know, the evil twins waited to do this until immediately after my parents came home from over there.

D1 is a greedy, selfish, and stupid Rush Limbaugh listener...

And you haven't disowned her already because...?

Because even greedy, selfish, conservatarded family members are still family members, until they have an impoverished and disabled sister thrown out of the only place they have to live.





Sorry to dump this on you guys. I feel completely powerless to fix or alleviate the situation, probably because I basically am.