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Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, May 30, 2015, 07:24:14 PM

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Quote from: PlightOfFernandoPoo on June 01, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
TL;Don't want to read?: This guy made a lot of mistakes, and here's how not to make them.

Also the government knows what you fap to when you're not busy. And they know the method by which you fap. And they can psychologically explain why and how you fap based on the slant in your handwriting and whether or not you use verb tenses correctly. And this information can be used to put you in the slammer.





If you want something done, do it your goddamn self. If you don't have the time, use someone you consider to be an extension of yourself. My closest friends would do anything I asked in that regard. But I wouldn't use them if I didn't understand them through and through.

If you plan on becoming a murderer or conspiring to commit murder, go into a career that gives you the information you need to avoid getting caught, like Crime Scene Investigator or something in Crime Lab. Or maybe just get the text books and keep yourself updated on the new tech.

If you wanna stay anonymous with your banking and transactions, make some foreign friends. It can take years to gather the amount of human resources you need to run something that big. You know what would be better than foreign friends, though? Lobbyist friends. The high-rolling ones. The ones that deal with the FBI for example, or the DEA. This kind of business is all about friends and connections. Junkenstein is right. If you wanna hire a stranger to do something illegal, and they reject you, then you better be making sure they're either playing for the right side, or they better be in a body bag within the week. And make sure your organization (If you're organized) isn't connected to their death. Dead potential business partners or dead previous contacts are bad for business, unless you tactically planned one to send a message.

If you're running something on the black market/deep web like he was, you should know to assume every single person that you encounter on the deep web is a fucking narc. Assume everyone is in the FBI, and you'll never do anything stupid enough to get caught. That was the first rule of the 70s-90s phone phreaker crowd, and that hasn't changed for the Deep Web crowd. This guy probably got comfortable talking to people on the Deep Web and gave a little bit too much information to one of the "Hit-men." Or was incapable of killing the rejecting "hit-men" before the end of the week (End of the week is more of a suggested amount of time. Some, if they are suspicious, might require some early retaliation, while others might just be a basic, mostly non-threatening loose end).

Keep in mind that if you think the government doesn't suspect you of the crimes you've tried to cover up, you're wrong. They don't just have a report on all of your internet and phone communications and bank accounts and everything. They also have a psychological profile that outlines behavioral tendencies and writing styles. You better be good at changing your writing style for different environments if you wanna at least stay under the radar. Most of the time, the only reason you're not in jail for what you did is because they're waiting for you to lead them to another criminal or criminal organization. Or it's because they can't use legally (Or mostly legally) obtained evidence to convict you. And if your crime is big enough, you better not be able to remember your passwords, because if you can remember it, you're kidding yourself if you think they won't get it out of you by any means necessary.

And finally, the device you're using for transactions, illegal communications, and sensitive transfers, should be amnesiac via Live Disc OS or it should be disposable, as Faust stated (Destroyed, completely, when disposed of). (FOR GOD'S FUCKING SAKE, DON'T FUCKING USE YOUR OWN WIFI THAT YOU PAY FOR. FUCK.) I wouldn't trust any encryption that the government doesn't use for top-secret communications. It just so happens the government uses AES a lot, so I would use that with [as random as you can make them] salts and seeds, as well as making sure the key is as random as you can make it, while also making it long enough for a hash cracker to be useless. As far as I know, if you can get ahold of a hash of a small enough key, you can just bruteforce the hash and get the key easily. But, because the size of any hash is cut off, only part of the key could even be recovered if you got ahold of a hash for a very long key. Or, it would be a useless chain of characters, depending on whether length had anything to do with the hash encryption algorithm. I forget exactly how that works.

What are you doing?
P E R   A S P E R A   A D   A S T R A

minuspace

Currently, my view of the case is that a man was sentenced to life with a crime for which he was never charged.  Outstanding work.

POFP

Quote from: N E T on June 02, 2015, 12:11:27 AM
What are you doing?

Stating how to take precautions that enable you to do what DPR was doing WITHOUT going to prison for life. Also, I connected some of what the others stated to my purpose.

Was I too verbose and off-topic with this one? I do that sometimes, especially when it's about topics I'm obsessed with.  :oops:
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: PlightOfFernandoPoo on June 01, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
TL;Don't want to read?: This guy made a lot of mistakes, and here's how not to make them.

Also the government knows what you fap to when you're not busy. And they know the method by which you fap. And they can psychologically explain why and how you fap based on the slant in your handwriting and whether or not you use verb tenses correctly. And this information can be used to put you in the slammer.





If you want something done, do it your goddamn self. If you don't have the time, use someone you consider to be an extension of yourself. My closest friends would do anything I asked in that regard. But I wouldn't use them if I didn't understand them through and through.

If you plan on becoming a murderer or conspiring to commit murder, go into a career that gives you the information you need to avoid getting caught, like Crime Scene Investigator or something in Crime Lab. Or maybe just get the text books and keep yourself updated on the new tech.

If you wanna stay anonymous with your banking and transactions, make some foreign friends. It can take years to gather the amount of human resources you need to run something that big. You know what would be better than foreign friends, though? Lobbyist friends. The high-rolling ones. The ones that deal with the FBI for example, or the DEA. This kind of business is all about friends and connections. Junkenstein is right. If you wanna hire a stranger to do something illegal, and they reject you, then you better be making sure they're either playing for the right side, or they better be in a body bag within the week. And make sure your organization (If you're organized) isn't connected to their death. Dead potential business partners or dead previous contacts are bad for business, unless you tactically planned one to send a message.

If you're running something on the black market/deep web like he was, you should know to assume every single person that you encounter on the deep web is a fucking narc. Assume everyone is in the FBI, and you'll never do anything stupid enough to get caught. That was the first rule of the 70s-90s phone phreaker crowd, and that hasn't changed for the Deep Web crowd. This guy probably got comfortable talking to people on the Deep Web and gave a little bit too much information to one of the "Hit-men." Or was incapable of killing the rejecting "hit-men" before the end of the week (End of the week is more of a suggested amount of time. Some, if they are suspicious, might require some early retaliation, while others might just be a basic, mostly non-threatening loose end).

Keep in mind that if you think the government doesn't suspect you of the crimes you've tried to cover up, you're wrong. They don't just have a report on all of your internet and phone communications and bank accounts and everything. They also have a psychological profile that outlines behavioral tendencies and writing styles. You better be good at changing your writing style for different environments if you wanna at least stay under the radar. Most of the time, the only reason you're not in jail for what you did is because they're waiting for you to lead them to another criminal or criminal organization. Or it's because they can't use legally (Or mostly legally) obtained evidence to convict you. And if your crime is big enough, you better not be able to remember your passwords, because if you can remember it, you're kidding yourself if you think they won't get it out of you by any means necessary.

And finally, the device you're using for transactions, illegal communications, and sensitive transfers, should be amnesiac via Live Disc OS or it should be disposable, as Faust stated (Destroyed, completely, when disposed of). (FOR GOD'S FUCKING SAKE, DON'T FUCKING USE YOUR OWN WIFI THAT YOU PAY FOR. FUCK.) I wouldn't trust any encryption that the government doesn't use for top-secret communications. It just so happens the government uses AES a lot, so I would use that with [as random as you can make them] salts and seeds, as well as making sure the key is as random as you can make it, while also making it long enough for a hash cracker to be useless. As far as I know, if you can get ahold of a hash of a small enough key, you can just bruteforce the hash and get the key easily. But, because the size of any hash is cut off, only part of the key could even be recovered if you got ahold of a hash for a very long key. Or, it would be a useless chain of characters, depending on whether length had anything to do with the hash encryption algorithm. I forget exactly how that works.

Aren't you cute?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Reginald Ret

Quote from: PlightOfFernandoPoo on June 02, 2015, 12:45:38 AM
Quote from: N E T on June 02, 2015, 12:11:27 AM
What are you doing?

Stating how to take precautions that enable you to do what DPR was doing WITHOUT going to prison for life. Also, I connected some of what the others stated to my purpose.

Was I too verbose and off-topic with this one? I do that sometimes, especially when it's about topics I'm obsessed with.  :oops:
Won't work, even with all your precautions the probability of getting caught is still over 80%

Also, why are you writing a how-to for murder? Murder is bad, stop trying to teach people how to do it.

Also also, you are implying that privacy is only used for bad things, stop conflating my desire to not be watched all the time with organized crime.
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Nigel saying the wisest words ever uttered: "It's just a suffix."

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The Johnny

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 02, 2015, 07:49:09 AM
Quote from: PlightOfFernandoPoo on June 01, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
TL;Don't want to read?: This guy made a lot of mistakes, and here's how not to make them.

Also the government knows what you fap to when you're not busy. And they know the method by which you fap. And they can psychologically explain why and how you fap based on the slant in your handwriting and whether or not you use verb tenses correctly. And this information can be used to put you in the slammer.





If you want something done, do it your goddamn self. If you don't have the time, use someone you consider to be an extension of yourself. My closest friends would do anything I asked in that regard. But I wouldn't use them if I didn't understand them through and through.

If you plan on becoming a murderer or conspiring to commit murder, go into a career that gives you the information you need to avoid getting caught, like Crime Scene Investigator or something in Crime Lab. Or maybe just get the text books and keep yourself updated on the new tech.

If you wanna stay anonymous with your banking and transactions, make some foreign friends. It can take years to gather the amount of human resources you need to run something that big. You know what would be better than foreign friends, though? Lobbyist friends. The high-rolling ones. The ones that deal with the FBI for example, or the DEA. This kind of business is all about friends and connections. Junkenstein is right. If you wanna hire a stranger to do something illegal, and they reject you, then you better be making sure they're either playing for the right side, or they better be in a body bag within the week. And make sure your organization (If you're organized) isn't connected to their death. Dead potential business partners or dead previous contacts are bad for business, unless you tactically planned one to send a message.

If you're running something on the black market/deep web like he was, you should know to assume every single person that you encounter on the deep web is a fucking narc. Assume everyone is in the FBI, and you'll never do anything stupid enough to get caught. That was the first rule of the 70s-90s phone phreaker crowd, and that hasn't changed for the Deep Web crowd. This guy probably got comfortable talking to people on the Deep Web and gave a little bit too much information to one of the "Hit-men." Or was incapable of killing the rejecting "hit-men" before the end of the week (End of the week is more of a suggested amount of time. Some, if they are suspicious, might require some early retaliation, while others might just be a basic, mostly non-threatening loose end).

Keep in mind that if you think the government doesn't suspect you of the crimes you've tried to cover up, you're wrong. They don't just have a report on all of your internet and phone communications and bank accounts and everything. They also have a psychological profile that outlines behavioral tendencies and writing styles. You better be good at changing your writing style for different environments if you wanna at least stay under the radar. Most of the time, the only reason you're not in jail for what you did is because they're waiting for you to lead them to another criminal or criminal organization. Or it's because they can't use legally (Or mostly legally) obtained evidence to convict you. And if your crime is big enough, you better not be able to remember your passwords, because if you can remember it, you're kidding yourself if you think they won't get it out of you by any means necessary.

And finally, the device you're using for transactions, illegal communications, and sensitive transfers, should be amnesiac via Live Disc OS or it should be disposable, as Faust stated (Destroyed, completely, when disposed of). (FOR GOD'S FUCKING SAKE, DON'T FUCKING USE YOUR OWN WIFI THAT YOU PAY FOR. FUCK.) I wouldn't trust any encryption that the government doesn't use for top-secret communications. It just so happens the government uses AES a lot, so I would use that with [as random as you can make them] salts and seeds, as well as making sure the key is as random as you can make it, while also making it long enough for a hash cracker to be useless. As far as I know, if you can get ahold of a hash of a small enough key, you can just bruteforce the hash and get the key easily. But, because the size of any hash is cut off, only part of the key could even be recovered if you got ahold of a hash for a very long key. Or, it would be a useless chain of characters, depending on whether length had anything to do with the hash encryption algorithm. I forget exactly how that works.

Aren't you cute?

Its 5am, but this is entertaining. Its like im Neo from the Matrix and some guru is teaching me how to commit felonies i dont know what for yet.

Now the real question is RED pill or BLUE pill i forget.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

Faust

Literally everything in there is bad advice, even the AES thing is contentious, with most people saying don't use standards the three letter agencies were involved with, the one I see that seems to be the most popular at the moment is PGP.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Faust

#LIFEHACKING TIP 42069 -Murdering someone

If you want to murder someone, don't just rush out and do it. Get a job as a Crime Scene Investigator or something in Crime Lab.

With a lucrative new career as a forensic investigator you can enjoy the spoils of new found wealth and job fulfillment, this will make your initial gripe with that person seem insignificant and the need to murder redundant.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Reginald Ret

Quote from: Faust on June 02, 2015, 11:40:21 AM
#LIFEHACKING TIP 42069 -Murdering someone

If you want to murder someone, don't just rush out and do it. Get a job as a Crime Scene Investigator or something in Crime Lab.

With a lucrative new career as a forensic investigator you can enjoy the spoils of new found wealth and job fulfillment, this will make your initial gripe with that person seem insignificant and the need to murder redundant.
:lol:
Lord Byron: "Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves."

Nigel saying the wisest words ever uttered: "It's just a suffix."

"The worst forum ever" "The most mediocre forum on the internet" "The dumbest forum on the internet" "The most retarded forum on the internet" "The lamest forum on the internet" "The coolest forum on the internet"

Q. G. Pennyworth

Quote from: Faust on June 02, 2015, 11:40:21 AM
#LIFEHACKING TIP 42069 -Murdering someone

If you want to murder someone, don't just rush out and do it. Get a job as a Crime Scene Investigator or something in Crime Lab.

With a lucrative new career as a forensic investigator you can enjoy the spoils of new found wealth and job fulfillment, this will make your initial gripe with that person seem insignificant and the need to murder redundant.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

POFP

I'll respond piecemeal while I get break times at work, or I will respond completely all at once much later on in the night. Either way, I'm getting mixed feelings on this one. I either a) Continue the debate through clarification of methodology for committing crimes - Something that appears to be morally objectionable to people on this board, or b) I let this go, swallow my pride, and just get laughed at for awhile. Decisions, decisions...
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

Faust

I'm just messing with you, I get what you meant with a lot of what you said, you just have a terrible way of phrasing some of it.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

The Johnny


Idk man you just sounded like those arm-chair gun experts... who was that guy? The resident nazi we had? That waxed on about rifles, the models and calibers which also sounds like those guys with break-in fantasies about luring the intruder then killing them in some intricate manner and getting off legally clean.

Sort of a try-hard amateur expert-non-expert.

That's all there is to it.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

POFP

Quote from: Faust on June 02, 2015, 08:13:16 PM
I'm just messing with you, I get what you meant with a lot of what you said, you just have a terrible way of phrasing some of it.

When I get into my fan-girl/enthusiast rants, I tend to leave out the info and phrasing that sells it. Or maybe that's my problem. Maybe I'm trying to sell it too much.

I know that I'm verbose with what I say, so I try to tone it down when I can. But sometimes, that just leads to me leaving out necessary information. When you, yourself, know what you're talking about, sometimes it's hard to prioritize information correctly. It makes it even harder when you're trying to be flashy and entertaining at the same time. I just gotta work on it.

At the same time, I don't wanna just throw out the fact that you might have some good points against what I said. Or that anyone has some good points, for that matter.

Quote from: The Johnny on June 02, 2015, 08:33:35 PM

Idk man you just sounded like those arm-chair gun experts... who was that guy? The resident nazi we had? That waxed on about rifles, the models and calibers which also sounds like those guys with break-in fantasies about luring the intruder then killing them in some intricate manner and getting off legally clean.

Sort of a try-hard amateur expert-non-expert.

That's all there is to it.

I always feel like that. No matter how much time I spend looking into a subject, I always feel like I've just barely scratched the surface.

On top of that, I have to worry about getting too in-depth, which can cause some readers to zone out, as well as making sure I get precise enough for those who do know what I'm talking about.
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

minuspace

Quote from: Faust on June 02, 2015, 11:23:21 AM
Literally everything in there is bad advice, even the AES thing is contentious, with most people saying don't use standards the three letter agencies were involved with, the one I see that seems to be the most popular at the moment is PGP.

Yea, PGP.

Also, I think most AES implementations are symmetric block-cyphers, so not as robust as public key for communication.  IIRC, RSA used to be good, and then I heard some things about DES possibly being compromised, but I always get the two mixed-up, and, I forget why, but I don't use Elgamal.

If anyone remembers, long, long ago, when Veronica was bigger than the Web, domestic PGP releases had more options for the cypher, and, it was illegal to export certain keys.  Being caught abroad with said cyphers amounted to international weapons trafficking; fun stuff, the good 'ol days.

Seems like I'm due for a little refresher course.