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CloserToGod: Black Iron Prison Rebuttal

Started by AFK, February 05, 2007, 04:22:29 PM

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LMNO

Personally, I'd sayve the Greyface bit for the Machine,Ñ¢ or the System¬Æ, but if you see the BIP as a Greyface thing, more power to you.

However, since that seems to be a new Idea, and it seems to be your new Idea, I'd really like to hear you talk it out.  A rant, maybe?


LMNO
-hip to new Ideas.

AFK

Quote from: Benaclypse on February 05, 2007, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 05, 2007, 04:22:29 PM
Quote from: CloserToGodThe Black Iron Prison is an idea that I have come across on a website that touts the Principia Discordia and the Illuminatus trilogy books.

The idea as it was explained to me is that in life you are trapped in a prison cell, it is dark and it is inescapable but you cannot see the walls that surround you. As an unwilling convict of this invisible penitentiary, you are in a position of pain and suffering and you have no way to break free until someone points out and makes you understand that you are in a prison.

Once you understand that you are being held against your will, you may start to break down the bars of your jail window, it is a revalation, and a means of evading capture. however, your initial rapture of becoming a free man is short lived, as you will find that there is a cell outside of the cell in which you had been incarserated. While the walls of the first prison are now crumbled, there is another larger wall encasing the captive and another set of bars holding back the freedom which is sought.

What I have found is that this analogy is a an unenlightened one, for it tells of failure to achieve enlightenment, and you had better not try again. It touts freedom but does not deliver. It is no truth bringer or real enlightenment, and is instead a masturbatory thought process that leads in a circle, and this ends in conformity, and bondage.

Breaking down walls is a good thing, but to find that behind every wall is another, is an idea that breads contempt, inadeqacy, and selfish behaviour, it is an idea that is a trick.

I have broken free of the BIP and I find that it is actually a lonely place, it is not populated with individuals, but it does not have any further walls and is not devoid of life. It is a free place that is to be explored and learnt from.

The BIP is Grayface incarnate and a subforum about it on this forum is akin to sermonizing about the Devil in a church.  It's good to hear that you've transformed the Black Iron Prison into Freebird Paradise if it's true, but you seem like just another magician who refuses to reveal his tricks.  I'm all for messianic ideals when they're realistic, but not when it's a sham.  Care to elaborate on how you've escaped the inescapables of life that the BIP represents; things like death, taxes, and other grim iron bars of grayface?  Or are you too busy flying your magickkk carpet ?

I'm a little confused about this post.  It seems like it is responding to ClosertoGod and the subforum at the same time.  I'd also be interested in an expansion on the claim of the BIP as "Greyface incarnate". 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Benaclypse

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 06, 2007, 01:47:48 PM
Quote from: Benaclypse on February 05, 2007, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 05, 2007, 04:22:29 PM
Quote from: CloserToGodThe Black Iron Prison is an idea that I have come across on a website that touts the Principia Discordia and the Illuminatus trilogy books.

The idea as it was explained to me is that in life you are trapped in a prison cell, it is dark and it is inescapable but you cannot see the walls that surround you. As an unwilling convict of this invisible penitentiary, you are in a position of pain and suffering and you have no way to break free until someone points out and makes you understand that you are in a prison.

Once you understand that you are being held against your will, you may start to break down the bars of your jail window, it is a revalation, and a means of evading capture. however, your initial rapture of becoming a free man is short lived, as you will find that there is a cell outside of the cell in which you had been incarserated. While the walls of the first prison are now crumbled, there is another larger wall encasing the captive and another set of bars holding back the freedom which is sought.

What I have found is that this analogy is a an unenlightened one, for it tells of failure to achieve enlightenment, and you had better not try again. It touts freedom but does not deliver. It is no truth bringer or real enlightenment, and is instead a masturbatory thought process that leads in a circle, and this ends in conformity, and bondage.

Breaking down walls is a good thing, but to find that behind every wall is another, is an idea that breads contempt, inadeqacy, and selfish behaviour, it is an idea that is a trick.

I have broken free of the BIP and I find that it is actually a lonely place, it is not populated with individuals, but it does not have any further walls and is not devoid of life. It is a free place that is to be explored and learnt from.

The BIP is Grayface incarnate and a subforum about it on this forum is akin to sermonizing about the Devil in a church.  It's good to hear that you've transformed the Black Iron Prison into Freebird Paradise if it's true, but you seem like just another magician who refuses to reveal his tricks.  I'm all for messianic ideals when they're realistic, but not when it's a sham.  Care to elaborate on how you've escaped the inescapables of life that the BIP represents; things like death, taxes, and other grim iron bars of grayface?  Or are you too busy flying your magickkk carpet ?

I'm a little confused about this post.  It seems like it is responding to ClosertoGod and the subforum at the same time.  I'd also be interested in an expansion on the claim of the BIP as "Greyface incarnate". 
No you aren't confused about that.  I was responding to Laz's escape plan, then went off on a tangent about the bip itself, since that's what he was talking about.  I'll write more about the bip later.  I'm going away for a day or few, though I might maybe be able to use a friend's computer tonite.  My own computer is barely holding out.  The colors in the screen blew a fuse, and the keyboard is glitchin'.  Some keys aren't typing what they're supposed to.  I'll get a whole new system in a couple weeks.  I'll see what I can do about a new grayface = bip piece, but it might be a while.

LMNO

Hmmm... All this talk of Greyface amkes me want to write a piece about it, myself.


I'll race ya.

hunter s.durden

BIP Rebuttal, it's mighty morphin time!
Transform into ridiculous argument!

Silly, you may get your wish...
This space for rent.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: hunter s.durden on February 06, 2007, 04:07:03 PM
BIP Rebuttal, it's mighty morphin time!
Transform into ridiculous argument!

Silly, you may get your wish...

You just made me touch myself inappropriately  :banana:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

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Benaclypse

Quote from: Benaclypse on February 06, 2007, 03:10:38 PM
I'll see what I can do about a new grayface = bip piece, but it might be a while.
Okay, here's my essay about the Gray Iron Prison:

Grayface is my warden.  Mama always said I should be friends with the warden.  He is, too.  Sometimes, when I can't sleep at night, he orders the prison guards to beat me senseless.

The End.

I'd write a longer essay but with a topic like that, my funny bones would shatter before I could bench it two inches.  I can't write about something that's not entertaining to me.

You may now return to your irregularly scheduled re-butt-al.

LHX

man

i dont know where you are coming up with this stuff these days, but it is straight fire

and this:

Quote...and then the end of the world ceased to exist.
is 11/10 worthy
neat hell

Thurnez Isa

Its truely amazing how many different interpretations there are of the BIP
It's almost like its less of a philosphy and more of an outlook
or even something emotional
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

LHX

neat hell

Triple Zero

i've got to say this, this might look a bit weird to this Laz guy if he hangs around ..

first we all write rebuttals, but the guy who we're aiming at is not even around.
then, he doesn't show up, but because they were very nice rebuttals and it's a bit of a shame to let the good effort go to waste, we start patting eachother on the back "nicely put, old chap, very well done, you would have certainly showed him .. if he were around"

.. is that what they call a "clusterfuck" ?

other than that, very nicely put old chaps! very well done, you would have certainly showed him, if he were around! no but seriously, good writings, at least i enjoyed them.
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Cain

Well, I think the next move was to email them to him, or to at least have them hanging around in case someone did go from his place to here.

LHX

Quote from: triple zero on February 09, 2007, 08:38:51 AM
i've got to say this, this might look a bit weird to this Laz guy if he hangs around ..

first we all write rebuttals, but the guy who we're aiming at is not even around.
then, he doesn't show up, but because they were very nice rebuttals and it's a bit of a shame to let the good effort go to waste, we start patting eachother on the back "nicely put, old chap, very well done, you would have certainly showed him .. if he were around"

.. is that what they call a "clusterfuck" ?

other than that, very nicely put old chaps! very well done, you would have certainly showed him, if he were around! no but seriously, good writings, at least i enjoyed them.

please

he already got showed and he showed himself


this is just exercise



good writing is good writing regardless of what prompts it


Mike Tyson was known to take sparring sessions so seriously, he would end up bleeding
neat hell

Triple Zero

Quote from: LHX on February 09, 2007, 12:32:44 PMplease

he already got showed and he showed himself


this is just exercise



good writing is good writing regardless of what prompts it

certainly. i was just trying to keep you guys on your toes a littlebit
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

LMNO

I'm not leaving this thread until I get a handjob.


Srsly.