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"If God Wasn't Real, It Would Be Necessary to Invent Him."

Started by AFK, November 29, 2007, 03:30:17 PM

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Iron Sulfide

"God is you and me,
God is everything..."
["god thinks" by Voltaire]

personally, i blame theologians.
Ya' stupid Yank.

rygD

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 29, 2007, 03:30:17 PM
"If God Wasn't Real, It Would Be Necessary to Invent Him."

It's so much easier to put your fate in another's hands, even if those hands are metaphysical.  It makes it easier to accept the shit when it flys your way.

"Everything Happens for a Reason"
"It's God's Will."

But, when you think about it, even those who do not believe in a God kind of do this same thing.

Some horrendous unforseen episode resulting in a gruesome, untimely death.

"Eh, the universe is random.  That's the way it goes."

It would seem, that even if we don't deify or personify a higher power, there is still an instinct to defer to one.  Even if it's an Inanimate Everything and Nothing.

Believing in Nothing is still believing in Something. 


This doesn't seem very accurate.  I know a few people who I have yet to say shit like this (one is a Jew...so he is religious), even in during extremely rough times.

It seems that this could be a result of being raised in a society (or worse, household)  where this sort of thing is commonplace, and there is little questioning why things happen as they do.  Even if the individual has decided they do not believe the bullshit there is still that imprint, and their mind will still go that direction.
:rbtg:

Quote from: rygD on March 07, 2007, 02:53:03 PM
...nuke Iraq and give it to the Jews...

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:rbtg:

Quote from: rygD on March 07, 2007, 02:53:03 PM
...nuke Iraq and give it to the Jews...

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God owes me money.

I have to believe in god otherwise how can I look forward to smashing his kneecaps?

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Quote from: rygD on December 01, 2007, 09:52:22 PM


This doesn't seem very accurate.  I know a few people who I have yet to say shit like this (one is a Jew...so he is religious),


Cain, where is that "wall of facepalm" you posted a while back?


LMNO


hooplala

I can't believe that collage doesn't feature Mitch Kramer from 'Dazed and Confused'.
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"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Cramulus


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Anime characters are, on average, 80% more likely to facepalm than real people or more respectable cartoons.

If you were an anime character -- wouldn't you?
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

Triple Zero

if i were an anime character, i'd off myself.

(by tentacle rape, of course, might as well have some fun on the way out)
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If God was Real, it would be necessary for him to watch Voltron and G-Force. 
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Random Probability

Quote from: rygD on December 01, 2007, 09:52:22 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 29, 2007, 03:30:17 PM
"If God Wasn't Real, It Would Be Necessary to Invent Him."

It's so much easier to put your fate in another's hands, even if those hands are metaphysical.  It makes it easier to accept the shit when it flys your way.

"Everything Happens for a Reason"
"It's God's Will."

But, when you think about it, even those who do not believe in a God kind of do this same thing.

Some horrendous unforseen episode resulting in a gruesome, untimely death.

"Eh, the universe is random.  That's the way it goes."

It would seem, that even if we don't deify or personify a higher power, there is still an instinct to defer to one.  Even if it's an Inanimate Everything and Nothing.

Believing in Nothing is still believing in Something. 


This doesn't seem very accurate.  I know a few people who I have yet to say shit like this (one is a Jew...so he is religious), even in during extremely rough times.

It seems that this could be a result of being raised in a society (or worse, household)  where this sort of thing is commonplace, and there is little questioning why things happen as they do.  Even if the individual has decided they do not believe the bullshit there is still that imprint, and their mind will still go that direction.
Seconded.  I read the OP and instantly wanted to call "Bullshit" on it.

I agree with everything rygD said here, and wanted to add that there is a huge fat not-too-well-defined fuzzy line between the ultimate abstraction of God as the universe and the universe being a personification of something or other.

There is no 'instinct' to seek blame on a higher power.  From what I can see, the people in the West have a long and sullied tradition of scapegoating instead of owning up to their inability to protect themselves from shit they don't see coming.  It's shit like this that makes me wish reverse time travel was actually possible so I could find the asshats responsible for the entire Judeo-Christo-Islamic fuckfest and ventilate their skulls with blunt instruments.

RP, always cheers the death of religious nuts.

Cramulus

So when your neighborhood is torn in half by a hurricane, how do you justify / rationalize it?