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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: Dalek on November 21, 2010, 08:37:00 PM

Title: Really real discordians
Post by: Dalek on November 21, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
I don't mean to offend anyone on the forum, as I find you all to be fun people, but after contemplating what's happening here, I have come to a conclusion. No new, young discordians should listen to what you guys say. And I don't mean to say "you're saying bullshit". No. It's just that they should not listen to what you have to say about discordia. Atleast to me, discordia is more of a DIY worldview and I find it really weird that some noobs come here, with their ideas of discordianism and then they tune in to what you have to say. I've seen a lot of noobs who let themselves get slawolled up by the community and accept everything you guys have to say. Maybe it's the noobs. You don't go to a discordian forum to tune your way of thinking with the one of other discordians. The only point I see in logging into such a forum is to express YOUR opinion. Why the fuck do noobs get all apologetic when someone argues with them?

This is not a fucking dogmatic religion, where you have to base your worldview on someone else's. As I see it it's more about creating your own worldview.

So seriously, noobs, the guys that post here have some cool things to say, but don't fucking aggree with everythin they say, or think, just because someone insulted you in a thread. Fuck, we're just a bunch of guys on a forum, why the fuck would you even care?

PS: Since when did every single thread in PD turn into "Lets gang up on the OP for some minor detail in his post, that did not quite fit our point of view"?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Dark Monk on November 21, 2010, 08:42:17 PM
I always watch for Discordians who do not believe in the code, and eliminate them accordingly. Join the fold, or be destroyed.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Salty on November 21, 2010, 08:44:58 PM
That's one awfully broad brush you're using there.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jasper on November 21, 2010, 08:56:09 PM
We aren't dogmatic, we just treat ideas like cockfights.  And we usually have the er, best cocks.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 21, 2010, 08:57:39 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 08:56:09 PM
We aren't dogmatic, we just treat ideas like cockfights.  And we usually have the er, best cocks.

So you are cockmatic?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jasper on November 21, 2010, 09:02:05 PM
No, I'm Sigmatic.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 21, 2010, 09:02:30 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 09:02:05 PM
No, I'm Sigmatic.
:lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jasper on November 21, 2010, 09:03:54 PM
:thanks:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Epimetheus on November 21, 2010, 09:14:30 PM
Uh, the general idea is TFY,S. I see that being the lesson taught to noobs and I see no problem with that.
Listen to what is said to you but at the end of the day make your own decision. And don't expect that everyone else is making or should be making the same decision.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 21, 2010, 09:14:45 PM
"you idiot"

:lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Triple Zero on November 21, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 09:02:05 PM
No, I'm Sigmatic.

does that mean you don't follow the dogma, but the sigma?

... where sigma is the deviation from the norm? :)
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Epimetheus on November 21, 2010, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 21, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 09:02:05 PM
No, I'm Sigmatic.

does that mean you don't follow the dogma, but the sigma?

... where sigma is the deviation from the norm? :)

(http://i52.tinypic.com/2cx0g0.jpg)
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Triple Zero on November 21, 2010, 09:41:43 PM
Quote from: Dalekk on November 21, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
It's just that they should not listen to what you have to say about discordia.

we try to tell em that, honest.

sometimes we use the reverse psychology, though.

sometimes we get a bit caught up in that, even.

sometimes we're just stubborn.

sometimes we're just disagreeable cunts.

and in a few cases it's just because we're plain damn righteous.

QuoteI've seen a lot of noobs who let themselves get slawolled up by the community and accept everything you guys have to say. Maybe it's the noobs. You don't go to a discordian forum to tune your way of thinking with the one of other discordians. The only point I see in logging into such a forum is to express YOUR opinion. Why the fuck do noobs get all apologetic when someone argues with them?

noobs come in all kinds and flavours. some swallow everything we gotta say. some of those later on develop their own ideas. some come with brilliant new ideas. some are just quiet. some are really loud.

The ones that get really apologetic, might be a slightly different breed though. one of the big ideas on this forum is that people should be capable of admitting when they're wrong, and know when to let go.

I'm not saying that this is a required thing in Discordia (although it's quite important in my version of Discordia as well), remember we're just one Discordian forum. Not THE Discordian forum. And this particular trait is really quite hard to keep going against in this particular community.

See, the thing is, we're Discordians. But this place is also a community. And even though we're Discordians, that does not make us immune to the social dynamics of communities. We can't and don't wanna. A community means that certain kind of behaviour is going to make it real hard to "fit in". And because we're Discordians, in the spirit of Discord, that can get a littlebit ugly. Although it's usually just words.

QuoteSo seriously, noobs, the guys that post here have some cool things to say, but don't fucking aggree with everythin they say, or think, just because someone insulted you in a thread. Fuck, we're just a bunch of guys on a forum, why the fuck would you even care?

Is there any specific incident you're thinking of here? Cause as far as I've seen, it's hardly ever the insults that make somebody more agreeable to another point of view.

QuoteSince when did every single thread in PD turn into "Lets gang up on the OP for some minor detail in his post, that did not quite fit our point of view"?

That's been that way for quite as long as I can remember actually. But not all the time. This forum has a "mood" and it comes and goes in waves.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jasper on November 21, 2010, 10:07:13 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 21, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 09:02:05 PM
No, I'm Sigmatic.

does that mean you don't follow the dogma, but the sigma?

... where sigma is the deviation from the norm? :)

You're the first person to guess that!
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Herbertina Merrique V on November 21, 2010, 10:15:40 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 08:56:09 PM
We aren't dogmatic, we just treat ideas like cockfights.  And we usually have the er, best cocks.

Newsfeed  :fap:

Alty and 000 have a point here, but so does Dalekk. Personally I've learned a lot of useful and inspiring stuff from this community, but it seems to me that people have to be very careful with what they post unless they are in the inner circle or otherwise already have a few oldfag friends to defend them if they make a single "mistake" in the way they think.

I'm not saying I'm not tired of the pinealist crap, for example, but I don't think that's such a huge problem in the end - people who go on about that stuff usually figure out this place isn't what they're looking for pretty soon anyway. But IMO the absurdly aggressive feedback even sensible, potentially awesome noobs so easily receive here might keep a lot of Great Things from happening, and prevent the community from evolving. Or at least slow down the process.

Quote from: Epimetheus on November 21, 2010, 09:14:30 PMAnd don't expect that everyone else is making or should be making the same decision.

^ This is exactly what people here seem to keep forgetting, and instead of explaining or discussing the views, well... yeah.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Telarus on November 21, 2010, 10:54:53 PM
I have no problem (n00b or otherwise) with anyone who doesn't approach Discordia in a purely infantile manner (example: Pop-Tart is an Infantile Troll, running mainly on 2nd circuit "3year old tantrum" feedback cycles, and does not attempt to communicate on any other wavelength).

Sure, Discordia was designed to catapult you back to an child-like state, but everything under the surface jokes are there to help you build back an adult consciousness while retaining some of the child-like qualities which the Curse of Greyface annihilated the first time you were 'civilized/domesticated'.

That said, I'm always open to discussing 'classic' Discordiana, dada, 'magick', and anything else that sparks some interesting narrative.

Lurking is all good, but at some point you've really got to LURK LESS and let the chips fall as they may.

Remembering Number 6's brief crash and burn here, I distinctly remember many of use calmly offering white flags and getting shot down (Sorry Cram, it was a valiant attempt). Sooo.....


     "it's That Time again"
         /
        /
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk43/TheUnwind/2008%20-%20September/WheelofMorality.jpg)

And the Moral of the Day is:

You can't get along with the whole forum at once. Trying to just invokes the Law of Eristic Escalation upon you. Also: Fuck You, Kai :fnord: 
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Triple Zero on November 21, 2010, 11:45:49 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 10:07:13 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 21, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 09:02:05 PM
No, I'm Sigmatic.

does that mean you don't follow the dogma, but the sigma?

... where sigma is the deviation from the norm? :)

You're the first person to guess that!

WOw, okay! I was wondering if it was on purpose, when I just realized, but thought it would be too far-fetched :)

I feel smart now 8)
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 12:51:18 AM
Quote from: Dalekk on November 21, 2010, 08:37:00 PM

PS: Since when did every single thread in PD turn into "Lets gang up on the OP for some minor detail in his post, that did not quite fit our point of view"?

Oh, dear.  It's fall in Bulgaria, and that means the Butthurt Festival is about to begin.

This is Discordia.  Wear a fucking hat.

Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 22, 2010, 01:13:25 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 12:51:18 AM
This is Discordia.  Wear a fucking hat.

And an 'athletic supporter' . . . and some hip-waders. Super trendy.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Gray Jester on November 22, 2010, 01:29:38 AM
Quote from: Dalekk on November 21, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
I don't mean to offend anyone on the forum, as I find you all to be fun people, but after contemplating what's happening here, I have come to a conclusion. No new, young discordians should listen to what you guys say. And I don't mean to say "you're saying bullshit". No. It's just that they should not listen to what you have to say about discordia. Atleast to me, discordia is more of a DIY worldview and I find it really weird that some noobs come here, with their ideas of discordianism and then they tune in to what you have to say. I've seen a lot of noobs who let themselves get slawolled up by the community and accept everything you guys have to say. Maybe it's the noobs. You don't go to a discordian forum to tune your way of thinking with the one of other discordians. The only point I see in logging into such a forum is to express YOUR opinion. Why the fuck do noobs get all apologetic when someone argues with them?

As a noob who is still figuring out his world view and how discordianism fits into it, I find it interesting to read other's work and see what parts resonate with what I already believe.  Sometimes, people make good points, but (and I try not to speak for myself in this one, because I realized this about three posts into the forum) a large part of our society tells us conflict is bad and getting along is good:  new people who don't realize that they have that shackle would be slow to get involved in conflict or drama, out of fear of "hurting someone", or w/e.  It's understandable and not, in my opinion, unreasonable.

Quote
This is not a fucking dogmatic religion, where you have to base your worldview on someone else's. As I see it it's more about creating your own worldview.

Fuck off, you're doing Discordianism all wrong.

Quote
So seriously, noobs, the guys that post here have some cool things to say, but don't fucking aggree with everythin they say, or think, just because someone insulted you in a thread. Fuck, we're just a bunch of guys on a forum, why the fuck would you even care?

People will be people, and society has trained us to avoid conflict at all costs.  Which is dumb, because a little tussle never hurt nobody.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 01:31:22 AM
Quote from: Gray Jester on November 22, 2010, 01:29:38 AM


People will be people, and society has trained us to avoid conflict at all costs.  Which is dumb, because a little tussle never hurt nobody.

Oh, no, we have to be nice to the little ass dumplings when they show up babbling jokes from 1959, and give them a fucking binky. 

I'll give them a fucking binky.  Oh, yes.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 01:32:18 AM
I'd just like to add that this thread has inspired me to shit no less than 5 pounds of bile onto each and every new person.

Thanks, Dalekk, I was starting to slip.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Gray Jester on November 22, 2010, 01:40:09 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 01:31:22 AM
Quote from: Gray Jester on November 22, 2010, 01:29:38 AM
People will be people, and society has trained us to avoid conflict at all costs.  Which is dumb, because a little tussle never hurt nobody.

Oh, no, we have to be nice to the little ass dumplings when they show up babbling jokes from 1959, and give them a fucking binky. 

Never said you should be nice, just that many people wouldn't get it.  The real question is, why do you care about the people that Don't Get It tm?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 01:44:28 AM
Quote from: Gray Jester on November 22, 2010, 01:40:09 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 01:31:22 AM
Quote from: Gray Jester on November 22, 2010, 01:29:38 AM
People will be people, and society has trained us to avoid conflict at all costs.  Which is dumb, because a little tussle never hurt nobody.

Oh, no, we have to be nice to the little ass dumplings when they show up babbling jokes from 1959, and give them a fucking binky. 

Never said you should be nice, just that many people wouldn't get it.  The real question is, why do you care about the people that Don't Get It tm?

I was referring to Dalekk, Staunch Protector of NoobsTM.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 22, 2010, 01:49:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 01:32:18 AM
I'd just like to add that this thread has inspired me to shit no less than 5 pounds of bile onto each and every new person.

Thanks, Dalekk, I was starting to slip.

Do I count as a new person? If I do, can I get my five pounds of bile in 1 lb packages? I've been sort of at a loss as to what I should get people for the holidays. I think this would work nicely for at least five of them.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 01:52:40 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 22, 2010, 01:49:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 01:32:18 AM
I'd just like to add that this thread has inspired me to shit no less than 5 pounds of bile onto each and every new person.

Thanks, Dalekk, I was starting to slip.

Do I count as a new person? If I do, can I get my five pounds of bile in 1 lb packages? I've been sort of at a loss as to what I should get people for the holidays. I think this would work nicely for at least five of them.

No.  You should PM me your address, and I will PERSONALLY come shit in your Thanksgiving turkey.  I shall in fact eat vindaloo and Sister Fracture's amazing tomato/garlic/onion/cheese soup the day before, and I can pretty much guarantee that you'll get at LEAST your fair share, that is to say 5 pounds.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:08:47 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 10:07:13 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 21, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 09:02:05 PM
No, I'm Sigmatic.

does that mean you don't follow the dogma, but the sigma?

... where sigma is the deviation from the norm? :)

You're the first person to guess that!

THE ENTIRE TIME I thought you were just bad at spelling "stigmata."

:fnord: 5 Sigma Cabal GO :fnord:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:12:11 AM
Also, didn't we used to have a 50 post suggestion or something?  That might be worth bringing back.

Maybe we could have the <50 post user title be "UNDER THE PROTECTION OF THE MGT" in bold red letters or something.

or

"New members are immune to PVP fights for 50 posts or until they reach level 3, whichever comes first."
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:15:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:12:11 AM
Also, didn't we used to have a 50 post suggestion or something?  That might be worth bringing back.

Maybe we could have the <50 post user title be "UNDER THE PROTECTION OF THE MGT" in bold red letters or something.

or

"New members are immune to PVP fights for 50 posts or until they reach level 3, whichever comes first."

I suppose I could start being NICE again.  Incredibly, unceasingly, horribly nice.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Triple Zero on November 22, 2010, 02:29:54 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:12:11 AM
Also, didn't we used to have a 50 post suggestion or something?  That might be worth bringing back.

Maybe we could have the <50 post user title be "UNDER THE PROTECTION OF THE MGT" in bold red letters or something.

or

"New members are immune to PVP fights for 50 posts or until they reach level 3, whichever comes first."

You can tell they have hit 50 posts when their usertitle switches from "Known" to "Known & Noted".
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 02:29:56 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:12:11 AM
Also, didn't we used to have a 50 post suggestion or something?  That might be worth bringing back.

Maybe we could have the <50 post user title be "UNDER THE PROTECTION OF THE MGT" in bold red letters or something.

or

"New members are immune to PVP fights for 50 posts or until they reach level 3, whichever comes first."

then they just flounce later in their career here, i say they get five posts before we get the hose, bucket and lotion out
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on November 22, 2010, 02:30:33 AM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 21, 2010, 10:15:40 PMAlty and 000 have a point here, but so does Dalekk. Personally I've learned a lot of useful and inspiring stuff from this community, but it seems to me that people have to be very careful with what they post unless they are in the inner circle or otherwise already have a few oldfag friends to defend them if they make a single "mistake" in the way they think.
Either that, or they have to have a good sense of humor about themselves and the things they think they believe.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 22, 2010, 02:32:42 AM
So...any reason people keep dragging this particular horse out to beat like a pinata? Have I missed some enlightening newbie sodomy?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 02:34:09 AM
cause its the Holidays?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:34:30 AM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 21, 2010, 10:15:40 PM
Alty and 000 have a point here, but so does Dalekk. Personally I've learned a lot of useful and inspiring stuff from this community, but it seems to me that people have to be very careful with what they post unless they are in the inner circle or otherwise already have a few oldfag friends to defend them if they make a single "mistake" in the way they think.

:lulz:  <--- Not laughing WITH you, Screwy.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:34:55 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 22, 2010, 02:32:42 AM
So...any reason people keep dragging this particular horse out to beat like a pinata? Have I missed some enlightening newbie sodomy?

Dalekk felt the need to be Defender of Noobs, I guess.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Triple Zero on November 22, 2010, 02:35:14 AM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on November 22, 2010, 02:30:33 AM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 21, 2010, 10:15:40 PMAlty and 000 have a point here, but so does Dalekk. Personally I've learned a lot of useful and inspiring stuff from this community, but it seems to me that people have to be very careful with what they post unless they are in the inner circle or otherwise already have a few oldfag friends to defend them if they make a single "mistake" in the way they think.
Either that, or they have to have a good sense of humor about themselves and the things they think they believe.

Also, supposing I'm in the "inner circle", I still gotta be damn careful what I post because when I post dumb shit (really dumb shit) people will shit all over me! It's more like an "inner sphincter", in that regard.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2010, 02:36:13 AM
The thing is, just like the ENTIRE REST OF REAL LIFE, no forum is going to have a culture that suits everyone who encounters it. So, some noobs will come here and start talking and go "hey, this place is cool, I like these people and I am engaged by these discussions" and other noobs will come here, get in a shouting match with a few people (sometimes only two or three) and then go "FUCK YOU, HIVEMIND! YOU ALL SUCK!" and flounce off. Some people will get shouted down and then go "huh, I can't effectively defend my opinion on that topic on this forum without things going in circles, but I like a lot of the things that go on there, so I'll participate in other things and not try to argue my POV about tarot/drugs/anarchy."

No one approach is the One True Correct approach.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:37:24 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 22, 2010, 02:35:14 AM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on November 22, 2010, 02:30:33 AM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 21, 2010, 10:15:40 PMAlty and 000 have a point here, but so does Dalekk. Personally I've learned a lot of useful and inspiring stuff from this community, but it seems to me that people have to be very careful with what they post unless they are in the inner circle or otherwise already have a few oldfag friends to defend them if they make a single "mistake" in the way they think.
Either that, or they have to have a good sense of humor about themselves and the things they think they believe.

Also, supposing I'm in the "inner circle", I still gotta be damn careful what I post because when I post dumb shit (really dumb shit) people will shit all over me! It's more like an "inner sphincter", in that regard.

Stop dragging facts into a perfectly good rant about the tyrannical "oldfags".

By the way, +10,000 points to Herring Martinique for yet another vicious homophobic slur!
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Epimetheus on November 22, 2010, 02:38:37 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 22, 2010, 02:36:13 AM
The thing is, just like the ENTIRE REST OF REAL LIFE, no forum is going to have a culture that suits everyone who encounters it.

this this this.
deal with it fuckers.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Triple Zero on November 22, 2010, 02:39:57 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:37:24 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 22, 2010, 02:35:14 AM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on November 22, 2010, 02:30:33 AM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 21, 2010, 10:15:40 PMAlty and 000 have a point here, but so does Dalekk. Personally I've learned a lot of useful and inspiring stuff from this community, but it seems to me that people have to be very careful with what they post unless they are in the inner circle or otherwise already have a few oldfag friends to defend them if they make a single "mistake" in the way they think.
Either that, or they have to have a good sense of humor about themselves and the things they think they believe.

Also, supposing I'm in the "inner circle", I still gotta be damn careful what I post because when I post dumb shit (really dumb shit) people will shit all over me! It's more like an "inner sphincter", in that regard.

Stop dragging facts into a perfectly good rant about the tyrannical "oldfags".

Pffff I wouldn't even have hit "Post" on that one, if it weren't for the hilarious sphincter remark!! :)

(yeah, I think it's time to sleep now)
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 02:40:46 AM
Quote from: Pēleus on August 27, 2008, 08:57:09 PM
Spag's was, from 1934 to 2004, a discount department store on Route 9 in Shrewsbury, Massachusetts. The store was considered an early pioneer of discount retailing and was notable for its longtime resistance to accepting charge cards (until 1992) and offering plastic shopping bags (late 1996) and shopping carts (introduced in 1998)
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 22, 2010, 02:41:40 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:34:55 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 22, 2010, 02:32:42 AM
So...any reason people keep dragging this particular horse out to beat like a pinata? Have I missed some enlightening newbie sodomy?

Dalekk felt the need to be Defender of Noobs, I guess.

Seriously, this fucking horse is not even a stain on the ground. There is a horse shaped hole in the ground now. If noobs come here and act like fucking retards they get ripped into. Either they do it on purpose and expect it, or they do it on accident and either grow a fucking sense of humor or fucking leave. WHAT IS SO FUCKING HARD ABOUT THAT!!!!



I fucking hate LARPers.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:42:35 AM
Did we ever pound on someone from Bulgaria?

I'm thinking there was ever only Dalekk and one of his friends, and we didn't really dump on either one of them.

We dumped on someone from Finland fairly recently, IIRC, but Finns deserve it, though it explains why Hernia Martinique got all wrapped around the axle.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:43:25 AM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 02:40:46 AM
Quote from: Pēleus on August 27, 2008, 08:57:09 PM
Spag's was, from 1934 to 2004, a discount department store on Route 9 in Shrewsbury, Massachusetts. The store was considered an early pioneer of discount retailing and was notable for its longtime resistance to accepting charge cards (until 1992) and offering plastic shopping bags (late 1996) and shopping carts (introduced in 1998)

Uh, yeah.  What the fuck are you talking about?  She said "oldfags" not "oldspags".
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:44:12 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 22, 2010, 02:41:40 AM
I fucking hate LARPers.

Some of my best friends are LARPers.

But I wouldn't let my daughter marry one.  I have to think of my property values.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:44:18 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:37:24 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 22, 2010, 02:35:14 AM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on November 22, 2010, 02:30:33 AM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 21, 2010, 10:15:40 PMAlty and 000 have a point here, but so does Dalekk. Personally I've learned a lot of useful and inspiring stuff from this community, but it seems to me that people have to be very careful with what they post unless they are in the inner circle or otherwise already have a few oldfag friends to defend them if they make a single "mistake" in the way they think.
Either that, or they have to have a good sense of humor about themselves and the things they think they believe.

Also, supposing I'm in the "inner circle", I still gotta be damn careful what I post because when I post dumb shit (really dumb shit) people will shit all over me! It's more like an "inner sphincter", in that regard.

Stop dragging facts into a perfectly good rant about the tyrannical "oldfags".

By the way, +10,000 points to Herring Martinique for yet another vicious homophobic slur!

-fag is /b/ slang, not so much of a slur.  So you have Eurofags who complain about Americacentrism, Christfags who won't shut up about this undead guy they know, Moralfags who object to torrenting anime or NSFW pics.  So obnoxious, and the product of either a homophobic or post-homophobic culture, but not actually a slur.

IIRC, "gayfag" is what you need to use if you want to actually call someone gay.  I dunno, I only know all this stuff second-hand.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:44:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:44:18 AM

-fag is /b/ slang, not so much of a slur.  

Fuck off.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:46:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:44:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:44:18 AM

-fag is /b/ slang, not so much of a slur.  

Fuck off.

WHO IS DRIVING ROGER?
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=27420.0
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:47:52 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:46:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:44:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:44:18 AM

-fag is /b/ slang, not so much of a slur.  

Fuck off.

WHO IS DRIVING ROGER?
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=27420.0

Nice.  50 points for the low blow.  You should probably go get cancer.  That'd be good.

And who is driving Roger?  Well, since it's not HIMEOBS (It's Sunday), why, it must be a pedantic shit tick who feels the need to defend a homophobe!

Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 22, 2010, 02:50:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:44:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:44:18 AM

-fag is /b/ slang, not so much of a slur.  

Fuck off.
What Roger said. Fag is STILL a homophobic slur. Don't fucking justify using it by using 4chan.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 02:52:27 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on September 05, 2008, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 05, 2008, 06:37:50 PM
Hi guys.  What's going on in this thread?  I've been busy beating up on Conservotards. 



EDUCATION.



WE ARE TEACHING THE NEW MEMBER HOW TO DO EXACTLY AS ROGER SAYS.





IN FIVE MINUTES, WE IMPLANT THE MIND CONTROL RAY RECEPTORS.

Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:53:29 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 22, 2010, 02:50:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:44:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:44:18 AM

-fag is /b/ slang, not so much of a slur.  

Fuck off.
What Roger said. Fag is STILL a homophobic slur. Don't fucking justify using it by using 4chan.

Well, now GA will have to find something you posted as evidence that you're not in your right mind.

You can't just walk around not listening to GA's expertise, you know.

We should have GA and Requia do THUNDERDOME!  TWO PEDANTS GO IN, ONE COMES OUT!
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:53:59 AM
And here comes Peleus to make a bad situation worse.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Phox on November 22, 2010, 02:54:34 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 22, 2010, 02:50:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:44:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:44:18 AM

-fag is /b/ slang, not so much of a slur.  

Fuck off.
What Roger said. Fag is STILL a homophobic slur. Don't fucking justify using it by using 4chan.

BINGO! So to repeat the sentiment, fuck off.

To address something else: I came here and fucked up a few times, and didn't have any insider friends. Now I iz insider, teeyoo. Who needs to be defended? If you can't defend yourself, this probably isn't the place for you anyway.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 02:55:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3l-gRHjUNk :lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:55:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:47:52 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:46:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:44:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:44:18 AM

-fag is /b/ slang, not so much of a slur.  

Fuck off.

WHO IS DRIVING ROGER?
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=27420.0

Nice.  50 points for the low blow.  You should probably go get cancer.  That'd be good.

And who is driving Roger?  Well, since it's not HIMEOBS (It's Sunday), why, it must be a pedantic shit tick who feels the need to defend a homophobe!

In an ideal world, Roger is driving Roger.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 02:56:21 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:53:59 AM
And here comes Peleus to make a bad situation worse.   :lulz:

i cant help it this time, the topic calls to me
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:57:12 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:55:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:47:52 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:46:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:44:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:44:18 AM

-fag is /b/ slang, not so much of a slur.  

Fuck off.

WHO IS DRIVING ROGER?
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=27420.0

Nice.  50 points for the low blow.  You should probably go get cancer.  That'd be good.

And who is driving Roger?  Well, since it's not HIMEOBS (It's Sunday), why, it must be a pedantic shit tick who feels the need to defend a homophobe!

In an ideal world, Roger is driving Roger.


Well, yes, but you've implied that Roger isn't driving Roger, so this isn't an ideal world, which implies that you're not actually going to go fuck yourself.

:(
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:57:35 AM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 02:56:21 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:53:59 AM
And here comes Peleus to make a bad situation worse.   :lulz:

i cant help it this time, the topic calls to me

No problem.  Just clean up your mess, is all.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 02:58:36 AM
which reminds me i still need to finish part three, but i think im going to eat a turkey
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:59:27 AM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 02:58:36 AM
which reminds me i still need to finish part three, but i think im going to eat a turkey

You bastard.

You'll be beating up orphans by this time next week.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 03:01:12 AM
well i did join a discordian bicycle gang :lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 03:02:42 AM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 03:01:12 AM
well i did join a discordian bicycle gang :lulz:

:lulz:

Eris' Angels?

Hell's Cyclists?

Death on a Fixed Gear?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 22, 2010, 03:03:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:53:29 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 22, 2010, 02:50:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:44:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 22, 2010, 02:44:18 AM

-fag is /b/ slang, not so much of a slur.  

Fuck off.
What Roger said. Fag is STILL a homophobic slur. Don't fucking justify using it by using 4chan.

Well, now GA will have to find something you posted as evidence that you're not in your right mind.

You can't just walk around not listening to GA's expertise, you know.

We should have GA and Requia do THUNDERDOME!  TWO PEDANTS GO IN, ONE COMES OUT!

LOL
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Salty on November 22, 2010, 03:22:04 AM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 21, 2010, 10:15:40 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 08:56:09 PM
We aren't dogmatic, we just treat ideas like cockfights.  And we usually have the er, best cocks.

Alty and 000 have a point here, but so does Dalekk. Personally I've learned a lot of useful and inspiring stuff from this community, but it seems to me that people have to be very careful with what they post unless they are in the inner circle or otherwise already have a few oldfag friends to defend them if they make a single "mistake" in the way they think.

What the Jesus crippled Christ is this? This shit irks the fuck out of me.
Look, I like to think I'm on pretty good terms with people here. I get along. Probably even with members of this SEKRIT DISCORDIAN INNER CIRCLE or what the FUCK ever it supposed to be. I don't think Roger has ever told me to light myself on fire, for example. And I've gotten good feedback from a lot of people.

And you know, when I post something that's FUCKING RETARDED people have told me exactly that.

It's not that hard really. And it pisses me off that people seem to think it is.
Post retarded shit you can't back up/verify/defend----> You're fucked. And no matter how "in" or "tight" or " down like a motherfucker" you are with anybody you are fucked.

And if you don't like it you can always flounce and go someplace where your incurable fuckwitness is tolerated.

Jesus FUCKING Christ.

Also, take that "oldfag" shit where it /b/elongs. It's fucking retarded.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Phox on November 22, 2010, 03:26:42 AM
Quote from: Alty on November 22, 2010, 03:22:04 AM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 21, 2010, 10:15:40 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on November 21, 2010, 08:56:09 PM
We aren't dogmatic, we just treat ideas like cockfights.  And we usually have the er, best cocks.

Alty and 000 have a point here, but so does Dalekk. Personally I've learned a lot of useful and inspiring stuff from this community, but it seems to me that people have to be very careful with what they post unless they are in the inner circle or otherwise already have a few oldfag friends to defend them if they make a single "mistake" in the way they think.

What the Jesus crippled Christ is this? This shit irks the fuck out of me.
Look, I like to think I'm on pretty good terms with people here. I get along. Probably even with members of this SEKRIT DISCORDIAN INNER CIRCLE or what the FUCK ever it supposed to be. I don't think Roger has ever told me to light myself on fire, for example. And I've gotten good feedback from a lot of people.

And you know, when I post something that's FUCKING RETARDED people have told me exactly that.

It's not that hard really. And it pisses me off that people seem to think it is.
Post retarded shit you can't back up/verify/defend----> You're fucked. And no matter how "in" or "tight" or " down like a motherfucker" you are with anybody you are fucked.

And if you don't like it you can always flounce and go someplace where your incurable fuckwitness is tolerated.

Jesus FUCKING Christ.

Also, take that "oldfag" shit where it /b/elongs. It's fucking retarded.

:fap:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: hooplala on November 22, 2010, 04:20:35 AM
There's no crying in Discordia.  What makes people think that everyone here should wear kid gloves all the time, and that people should get some mythical amount of time to be douchebags before anyone can say something?  The internet is big, you are going to meet "all types", blah blah blah, is this really new to anyone?

I've been here for five fucking years... when I say crazy batshit stuff, people say I am writing crazy batshit stuff.  I fail to see the problem.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 22, 2010, 04:21:21 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 22, 2010, 04:20:35 AM
There's no crying in Discordia.  What makes people think that everyone here should wear kid gloves all the time, and that people should get some mythical amount of time to be douchebags before anyone can say something?  The internet is big, you are going to meet "all types", blah blah blah, is this really new to anyone?

I've been here for five fucking years... when I say crazy batshit stuff, people say I am writing crazy batshit stuff.  I fail to see the problem.

THAT IS JUST CRAZY TALK!!!!!!
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Iason Ouabache on November 22, 2010, 05:54:37 AM
How many more times do we have to have this fucking conversation? :boring:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: themenniss on November 22, 2010, 05:56:40 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 22, 2010, 04:21:21 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 22, 2010, 04:20:35 AM
There's no crying in Discordia.  What makes people think that everyone here should wear kid gloves all the time, and that people should get some mythical amount of time to be douchebags before anyone can say something?  The internet is big, you are going to meet "all types", blah blah blah, is this really new to anyone?

I've been here for five fucking years... when I say crazy batshit stuff, people say I am writing crazy batshit stuff.  I fail to see the problem.

THAT IS JUST CRAZY TALK!!!!!!
THAT'S FIGHTIN' TALK!!!!!
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Salty on November 22, 2010, 06:02:00 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 22, 2010, 05:54:37 AM
How many more times do we have to have this fucking conversation? :boring:

Until THEY start listening to US.
Also: libertarianism/anarchism/mahjicke/marijuana/the month of February. Maybe there ought to be one giant thread where all that immediately gets routed. In the basement, perhaps.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 22, 2010, 06:07:00 AM
Quote from: themenniss on November 22, 2010, 05:56:40 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 22, 2010, 04:21:21 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 22, 2010, 04:20:35 AM
There's no crying in Discordia.  What makes people think that everyone here should wear kid gloves all the time, and that people should get some mythical amount of time to be douchebags before anyone can say something?  The internet is big, you are going to meet "all types", blah blah blah, is this really new to anyone?

I've been here for five fucking years... when I say crazy batshit stuff, people say I am writing crazy batshit stuff.  I fail to see the problem.

THAT IS JUST CRAZY TALK!!!!!!
THAT'S FIGHTIN' TALK!!!!!

:apple:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Salty on November 22, 2010, 06:12:12 AM
Quote from: Alty on November 22, 2010, 06:02:00 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 22, 2010, 05:54:37 AM
How many more times do we have to have this fucking conversation? :boring:

Until THEY start listening to US.
Also: libertarianism/anarchism/mahjicke/marijuana/the month of February. Maybe there ought to be one giant thread where all that immediately gets routed. In the basement, perhaps.

You know what PD.com needs? We have a roof (with a pool and everthang), a basement, a kitchen, a nerdy workroom, a study where the finer points of politics may be discussed in calm, rational tones. We need a motherfucking Toilet. Wanna rehash the same shit that's been done to death? Head to The Toilet. More sanitary that way.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Placid Dingo on November 22, 2010, 06:45:56 AM
Verily, I object to the use of fag because it is retardedly offensive. Like, it is so offensive it's a windowlicker retard sped downs syndrome dumbfuck mongoloid tard of a word, and I shan't tolerate such filth.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Salty on November 22, 2010, 07:04:17 AM
I take offense.
My sister's a retarded homosexual Teabagger sand-nag.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2010, 07:56:38 AM
I object to the idea that people with high post counts who are in the "inner circle" (what the fuck is that? Is that what we named the hemorrhoids we got from sitting in front of the computer posting so much?) don't get ripped into as much or as hard. If anything, people with high post counts get ripped into more, and harder, and survive it because the only reason they've been able to stick around this horrible place for long enough to get such a high postcount is because they have titanium ovaries and a ten-foot cock.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Salty on November 22, 2010, 08:15:56 AM
Yeah it seems that the High Level HAZMAT Grade Ripping Into happens between people with high post counts who've been here a while.

Maybe the people complaining about this WANT to be told nasty things by people they get along with and respect.

Also, personally, I enjoy it when you tell me I'm fucking stupid, Nigel. I don't get enough of that IRL because I'm surrounded by morons.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 10:32:09 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 02:37:24 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 22, 2010, 02:35:14 AM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on November 22, 2010, 02:30:33 AM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 21, 2010, 10:15:40 PMAlty and 000 have a point here, but so does Dalekk. Personally I've learned a lot of useful and inspiring stuff from this community, but it seems to me that people have to be very careful with what they post unless they are in the inner circle or otherwise already have a few oldfag friends to defend them if they make a single "mistake" in the way they think.
Either that, or they have to have a good sense of humor about themselves and the things they think they believe.

Also, supposing I'm in the "inner circle", I still gotta be damn careful what I post because when I post dumb shit (really dumb shit) people will shit all over me! It's more like an "inner sphincter", in that regard.

Stop dragging facts into a perfectly good rant about the tyrannical "oldfags".

By the way, +10,000 points to Herring Martinique for yet another vicious homophobic slur!

Sorry, should've thought twice before using that. :weary: But is "oldfag" even a pejorative? I don't think it really applies any negative effects to the LGBT people, or anyone else for that matter. Not native speaker, though. (Instead, bisexual myself. I know, perhaps A. I'm just saying I'm bi just because I'm young and it's in these days etcetc or B. um, a bisexual people can still be homophobic, or :?. But yeah, using /b/ slang is probably still a crime vicious enough, so for that part yuor hating is entirely justified.)

QuoteWe dumped on someone from Finland fairly recently, IIRC, but Finns deserve it, though it explains why Hernia Martinique got all wrapped around the axle.
Do I get to call you racist now? Even if you didn't mean it in that way?
(Yes, I know you hate racists. As much as I hate homophobes. As much as we all hate bigots of all kind. Do you want to keep debating this?)


Also, come on. I was not "ranting" about tyrannical oldspags. This doesn't bother me that much in the end.
Now that Dalekk started this thread, I just felt like putting my 1½ cents in - I pointed out how things seemed to me, not fiercely defending every idiot noob in this place ever or plotting a pinealist revolution or anything. I didn't suggest we should all eternally crap candy cotton unicorns and flowers and try not to hurt each other, and I'm not saying older users won't get shat on if they say something stupid. It's just that noobs very rarely get second chances after that single mistake, while older users are auto-forgiven (okay, there may still be some srs cockfighting between individuals, but at least the whole community won't stop listening to them and keep reminding everyone of the Stupid Shit Once Posted, lest someone be nice to them even if they're clearly Stupid, forever).

In general terms, often the person who speaks seems a lot more important than what is said. This shows in the amount of feedback and support the new users receive, which in turn discourages them from contributing more of their own stuff.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: hooplala on November 22, 2010, 02:20:52 PM
No.  You are wrong.  There is no such thing as second chances on here.  The ones who got these mythical "second chances" you speak of are the ones who just decided to suck it up and keep posting anyway.  That's how it works.

The ones who run off with their their tales between their legs run away and cry while smoking Parliament cigarettes, then eventually stumble onto prescription meds, get hooked, fall into porn, and wake up three years later in Juarez married to a transexual Salazorian midget hooker with a hare lip and two glass eyes.  And those are the lucky ones.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: AFK on November 22, 2010, 02:28:40 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 22, 2010, 05:54:37 AM
How many more times do we have to have this fucking conversation? :boring:

23!

To the OP, I'm not sure that we are really here to tell people how to think or what they should believe in.  The idea has always been TFY,S.  It's that you should think for yourself, not that we are going to tell you, prescriptively, what to think when you reach that point.  Now, certainly, if someone puts up an idea or belief that seems a little batty to some of the posters, it will be challenged.  There is no judge or jury here that ultimately decides who is right or wrong.  Even if you do have 5 or 6 old timers shouting against a couple newer folks, ultimately, there is no decision about who is right or wrong. 

The conclusion of the argument is simply where people stop shouting. 

Ha!  See what I did there? 
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2010, 02:33:25 PM
I object to this topic for the following reasons:

1. Money isn't made out of paper; it's made out of cotton.

2. The 57 on Heinz ketchup bottle represents the varieties of pickle the company once had.

4. Ketchup was sold in the 1830s as medicine.

5. Your stomach produces a new layer of mucus every two weeks otherwise it would digest itself.

6. During the chariot scene in 'Ben Hur' a small red car can be seen in the distance.

Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: hooplala on November 22, 2010, 02:34:22 PM
I thought the 57 was just made up?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 22, 2010, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 01:52:40 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 22, 2010, 01:49:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 01:32:18 AM
I'd just like to add that this thread has inspired me to shit no less than 5 pounds of bile onto each and every new person.

Thanks, Dalekk, I was starting to slip.

Do I count as a new person? If I do, can I get my five pounds of bile in 1 lb packages? I've been sort of at a loss as to what I should get people for the holidays. I think this would work nicely for at least five of them.

No.  You should PM me your address, and I will PERSONALLY come shit in your Thanksgiving turkey.  I shall in fact eat vindaloo and Sister Fracture's amazing tomato/garlic/onion/cheese soup the day before, and I can pretty much guarantee that you'll get at LEAST your fair share, that is to say 5 pounds.

You have no idea how tempted I am to give you my address and pay for the trip so you can follow through with that. Cardinal Pizza Deliverance is mightily peeved at several shit-for-brains in the greater CPD delivery area. A pound of TGRR-poo on top of their entitlement pizzas would just about make my day.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: LMNO on November 22, 2010, 03:10:56 PM
Last I checked, "Think For Yourself" doesn't mean "Don't Criticize Other People".

We argue here.  It's what we do.  And we've argued the Original PD ideas scores of times.

Fact of the matter is, most of the time the noobs haven't really thought things through; so when they're asked to defend themselves, they can't do it.


But even that isn't germaine to the OP, because as far as I can tell, we haven't had a noob come in talking about Discordian Catma for months. 

Dalekk, do you have a recent example of what you're referring to?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2010, 03:20:26 PM
I have a bit more thoughts on the matter here:

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=26864.msg957537#msg957537
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2010, 03:23:48 PM
My thoughts on this can be found, as always, here

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=26943.msg9585730#msg9585730 (http://www.bouldermountainguide.com/i/Brown%20Trout/IMG_0581-1-Wild_Brown-640-W.jpg)
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: hooplala on November 22, 2010, 03:26:12 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 10:32:09 AM

Do I get to call you racist now? Even if you didn't mean it in that way?

Finns are a race?  Who knew?

Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 22, 2010, 07:56:38 AM
I object to the idea that people with high post counts who are in the "inner circle" (what the fuck is that? Is that what we named the hemorrhoids we got from sitting in front of the computer posting so much?) don't get ripped into as much or as hard. If anything, people with high post counts get ripped into more, and harder, and survive it because the only reason they've been able to stick around this horrible place for long enough to get such a high postcount is because they have titanium ovaries and a ten-foot cock.

I, for one, have never been attacked.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: AFK on November 22, 2010, 03:52:23 PM
I don't think I've ever been attacked either.  Certainly I've had some rather boisterous arguments with members, but nothing so intense that I wanted to leave.  And those were more topical discussions and not about being "really real".   
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: LMNO on November 22, 2010, 04:06:35 PM
I don't think we've had a debate about Discordian Catma since DK's "Cartesian Duality" troll... and that was more BIP than PD.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 05:03:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 10:32:09 AM

Do I get to call you racist now? Even if you didn't mean it in that way?

Finns are a race?  Who knew?



Ah, sorry. Xenophobic would be the word I meant, or even more specifically maybe just "prejudiced against a certain nationality", or something along those lines. Doesn't change much of the point there, but well yeah.

- Hamartia Methionylglutaminylarginyltyrosy,
understands very well why people are tired of the topic
(the reasons why they then keep discussing it, not so well)
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 05:03:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 10:32:09 AM

Do I get to call you racist now? Even if you didn't mean it in that way?

Finns are a race?  Who knew?



Ah, sorry. Xenophobic would be the word I meant, or even more specifically maybe just "prejudiced against a certain nationality", or something along those lines. Doesn't change much of the point there, but well yeah.

- Hamartia Methionylglutaminylarginyltyrosy,
understands very well why people are tired of the topic
(the reasons why they then keep discussing it, not so well)

I'm not xenophobic.  I just hate foreigners.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2010, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Alty on November 22, 2010, 08:15:56 AM
Yeah it seems that the High Level HAZMAT Grade Ripping Into happens between people with high post counts who've been here a while.

Maybe the people complaining about this WANT to be told nasty things by people they get along with and respect.

Also, personally, I enjoy it when you tell me I'm fucking stupid, Nigel. I don't get enough of that IRL because I'm surrounded by morons.

Aww, thanks! :)
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 05:19:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 05:03:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 10:32:09 AM

Do I get to call you racist now? Even if you didn't mean it in that way?

Finns are a race?  Who knew?



Ah, sorry. Xenophobic would be the word I meant, or even more specifically maybe just "prejudiced against a certain nationality", or something along those lines. Doesn't change much of the point there, but well yeah.

- Hamartia Methionylglutaminylarginyltyrosy,
understands very well why people are tired of the topic
(the reasons why they then keep discussing it, not so well)

I'm not xenophobic.  I just hate foreigners.

I don't think your hate was unclear for anyone here.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2010, 05:23:26 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 22, 2010, 02:28:40 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 22, 2010, 05:54:37 AM
How many more times do we have to have this fucking conversation? :boring:

23!

To the OP, I'm not sure that we are really here to tell people how to think or what they should believe in.  The idea has always been TFY,S.  It's that you should think for yourself, not that we are going to tell you, prescriptively, what to think when you reach that point.  Now, certainly, if someone puts up an idea or belief that seems a little batty to some of the posters, it will be challenged.  There is no judge or jury here that ultimately decides who is right or wrong.  Even if you do have 5 or 6 old timers shouting against a couple newer folks, ultimately, there is no decision about who is right or wrong. 

The conclusion of the argument is simply where people stop shouting. 

Ha!  See what I did there? 

Dalekk is, apparently, here to tell people how to think or what they should believe in. Or, at least, who they should or should not listen to.  :lulz:

Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: AFK on November 22, 2010, 05:40:46 PM
Well, everyone should listen to me always because I'm write about everything. 
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on November 22, 2010, 06:09:43 PM
 :mind ray:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Payne on November 22, 2010, 06:33:36 PM
Thoughts on reading this thread:

"Shit. Roger's back now, and I totally forgot about the Mind Control Laz0rs. Or was I made to forget?"

"I wonder if you score double points for hating on Gay Finns? Is that even in the rulebook?"

"God damnit, there's always one. Then at least another one following up behnd with this horeshit."

"Damn, I wonder if Rogers has a mind control cock as well? Would that even work on Finns?"

"Well, this thread is another waste of time. Maybe it's just as well I never get to spend that much time reading PD anymore if this is the quality of the faire on offer."

"Wow, mind control cocks. If they exist, I'm thinking that LMNO has it, and he's TOTALLY use it on the "Inner Circle"..."
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 06:42:24 PM
I don't want to diminish what has been said here with a "I am posting in this thread" type of comment, because really, it probably DOES need airing out every once in a while, like a dusty-yet-well-used rag rug on the floor.  This notion that PD.com is bigger than its britches seems to come around often enough, and airing grievances being what they are, I tend to take the tack of "eh, why the hell not?" for the exercise and rarely get involved.  Unless I feel there's a point I wanted to underscore and it hasn't been said yet.  *searching brain*  No, there isn't one of those as of yet.

Heh, yeah, I'm not even sure what I'm saying other than, "I am posting in this thread."  Guess I should've stuck to that after all.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2010, 06:42:55 PM
"REAL" DISCORDIANS?
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YOU TELLIN' ME THAT INFLATABLE BITCH ISN'T REAL??
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I'M HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS HERE
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Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 06:44:59 PM
Well, the outrage I get here for being an utter bastard is nothing compared to that which I receive IRL (from a certain traumatized neighor, for example), so it's no big deal.  

It's just funny, is all.  My guess is that Dalekk's friend that signed up took us a little too seriously, got pissed, and left.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Phox on November 22, 2010, 06:50:25 PM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 10:32:09 AM

Sorry, should've thought twice before using that. :weary: But is "oldfag" even a pejorative? I don't think it really applies any negative effects to the LGBT people, or anyone else for that matter.

It depends on how a person takes it. I for one find it offensive as fuck, so I repeat, fuck off with that shit.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Payne on November 22, 2010, 06:54:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 06:44:59 PM
Well, the outrage I get here for being an utter bastard is nothing compared to that which I receive IRL (from a certain traumatized neighor, for example), so it's no big deal.  

It's just funny, is all.  My guess is that Dalekk's friend that signed up took us a little too seriously, got pissed, and left.

ROGER, You are a terrily bad man. We all know it. That's why we love you.

Also, enquiring minds would like to know more about the Mind Control Cock.

Also also, seeing as I have you here: Are you going to be coming over to this side of the Atlantic in the next while, as was (almost, but not really, kinda) planned?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2010, 07:06:18 PM
at the risk of being pedantic,

the word Fag has been used since the dawn of time to refer to people that suck.

It was originally a pejorative term used for poor people - those that had to go into the woods and gather faggots (ie sticks) to sell as firewood for a few pence apiece.

Later, it was used to refer to old people. (Who are as pathetic as those poor people that gather firewood)

It didn't refer to homosexuals until very recently.

Now on the internets, its usage fairly common. And in most of its internet usages, the person is not referring to a homosexual, but rather somebody that sucks. For example "newfag" = newbie. If I call you a newfag I am not making fun of you for being gay, I'm making fun of you for being new and unhip.


So while I agree that is usage is impolite, the word "fag" is not inherently homophobic, especially if the person did not mean it in an "insulting to homosexuals" context. I mean, when you call somebody a Geek, you're not calling them a circus freak. These things have multiple definitions, and the definitions gradually change over time.


I do prefer to call people spags though, so I don't have to explain myself in a drawn out and rather unfunny way, like this. :p
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Salty on November 22, 2010, 07:12:06 PM
I don't think many people saying oldfag are hating on The Gays.
I just think it's stupid and comes from a place chock-full-o-stupid and should stay there.

Some 4chan memes are funny. Just not that one, IMO.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: hooplala on November 22, 2010, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 22, 2010, 07:06:18 PM
at the risk of being pedantic,

the word Fag has been used since the dawn of time to refer to people that suck.

It was originally a pejorative term used for poor people - those that had to go into the woods and gather faggots (ie sticks) to sell as firewood for a few pence apiece.

Later, it was used to refer to old people. (Who are as pathetic as those poor people that gather firewood)

It didn't refer to homosexuals until very recently.

Now on the internets, its usage fairly common. And in most of its internet usages, the person is not referring to a homosexual, but rather somebody that sucks. For example "newfag" = newbie. If I call you a newfag I am not making fun of you for being gay, I'm making fun of you for being new and unhip.


So while I agree that is usage is impolite, the word "fag" is not inherently homophobic, especially if the person did not mean it in an "insulting to homosexuals" context. I mean, when you call somebody a Geek, you're not calling them a circus freak. These things have multiple definitions, and the definitions gradually change over time.


I do prefer to call people spags though, so I don't have to explain myself in a drawn out and rather unfunny way, like this. :p

Let it be known: if I call you "geek", I am directly implying you bite the heads off live chickens.

Fair warning.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: LMNO on November 22, 2010, 07:16:43 PM
While Cram might be correct in the evolution of the term, if you asked someone what "fag" means, most would say either that it's a slur for homosexual, or that it explicitly was not a slur for homosexual-- that is, they believed it usually is a slur, "but not in the way I do it."

Which is simply a nice way of justifying why they use what they believe to be a homosexual slur.

Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 07:21:11 PM
Quote from: The Spagifex Maximus on November 22, 2010, 06:54:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 06:44:59 PM
Well, the outrage I get here for being an utter bastard is nothing compared to that which I receive IRL (from a certain traumatized neighor, for example), so it's no big deal.  

It's just funny, is all.  My guess is that Dalekk's friend that signed up took us a little too seriously, got pissed, and left.

ROGER, You are a terrily bad man. We all know it. That's why we love you.

Also, enquiring minds would like to know more about the Mind Control Cock.

Also also, seeing as I have you here: Are you going to be coming over to this side of the Atlantic in the next while, as was (almost, but not really, kinda) planned?

ALL travel plans are up in the air right now, for reasons to aggravating to go into.

I'll let you know more as things develop.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Phox on November 22, 2010, 07:24:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 22, 2010, 07:16:43 PM
While Cram might be correct in the evolution of the term, if you asked someone what "fag" means, most would say either that it's a slur for homosexual, or that it explicitly was not a slur for homosexual-- that is, they believed it usually is a slur, "but not in the way I do it."

Which is simply a nice way of justifying why they use what they believe to be a homosexual slur.



This. Again, it depends on the perception of the person hearing it, not the "intention" of the person saying it.. "Newfag", "oldfag", etc. are direct derivatives from the use of "fag" as a homophobic slur, and they are still charged with that sentiment.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2010, 07:30:35 PM
I like to use "fag" in ways that are either completely appropriate, or utterly inappropriate.

For example, I have some friends who are old fags. They love to be called old fags. They refer to each other and themselves as fag.

I also will call some of my friends who are specifically not fags, fags. Or bitches. We are all pretty fond of referring to each other as bitches. One of my friends affectionately refers to us all, male or female, as snatches.

The difference is that these terms are being used, appropriately or not, within the context of a cohesive and affectionate social group. That's not the case when you go on the internet and refer to other people as fags or snatches, so while it's perfectly reasonable for me and my friends to call each other fags and snatches, it would be PRETTY FUCKING STUPID to say those things to a group of random internet people of various backgrounds and expect everyone to be cool with it.

Right, snatches?

Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: hooplala on November 22, 2010, 07:32:18 PM
I'm pretty sure I haven't said 'fag' since I was 14 or so.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2010, 07:33:10 PM
Faggots are a delicious and traditional meal.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: LMNO on November 22, 2010, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 22, 2010, 07:30:35 PM
The difference is that these terms are being used, appropriately or not, within the context of a cohesive and affectionate social group. That's not the case when you go on the internet and refer to other people as fags or snatches, so while it's perfectly reasonable for me and my friends to call each other fags and snatches, it would be PRETTY FUCKING STUPID to say those things to a group of random internet people of various backgrounds and expect everyone to be cool with it.

Right, snatches?

The bitch has a point.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2010, 07:34:32 PM
Quote from: Phox on November 22, 2010, 07:24:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 22, 2010, 07:16:43 PM
While Cram might be correct in the evolution of the term, if you asked someone what "fag" means, most would say either that it's a slur for homosexual, or that it explicitly was not a slur for homosexual-- that is, they believed it usually is a slur, "but not in the way I do it."

Which is simply a nice way of justifying why they use what they believe to be a homosexual slur.



This. Again, it depends on the perception of the person hearing it, not the "intention" of the person saying it.. "Newfag", "oldfag", etc. are direct derivatives from the use of "fag" as a homophobic slur, and they are still charged with that sentiment.


see I think they are direct derivatives of the word "fag" used as a generally insulting term

that's why you never hear anything like "newqueer" or "new-homo" or "newgay" or whatever else people insultingly call homosexuals these days



I think earlier ITT somebody posted a link to the southpark episode about this which encapsulates this discussion pretty well. The kids were pissed off that these bikers were being really obnoxious and spraypainted "GO AWAY FAGS" all over town. This prompted the elementary school to lecture them about tolerance for  homosexuals, which confused everybody. Eventually somebody said, "ohhh. .they think that we were referring to gay fags."


the same argument could apply to the word "whore". I can call somebody a drama-whore without being inherently offensive to women.

Or I can say "quit bitching", and it's not inherently sexist, even though if you tease it apart, I am saying that your whining reminds me of a woman.


(I'm not saying you're bitching BTW, just giving an example  :wink:)
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
Language taboos are a totally interesting subject.  The line between a phrase or word being seen as appropriate or inappropriate is usually drawn by those who set the "overt prestige" factors in a language (i.e. educators, the media, the ruling classes, and those who are unfortunate enough to have an entity like L'Ecole Francaise).  What makes it more acceptable amongst those who don't set overt prestige factors is usually the covert prestige their cohort offers (like Nigel's close set of friends).

PD.com certainly carries a large set of covert prestige terms that might seem inappropriate or taboo in larger settings outside of PD.com (like "glorious faggot" and probably "spag").  So when members "cross the streams" between a site like /b/-chan and PD.com, you can see where the clas could come.

/I like linguistics.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Dane$$a on November 22, 2010, 07:35:01 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 22, 2010, 07:32:18 PM
I'm pretty sure I haven't said 'fag' since I was 14 or so.

Well thats nice now maybe you can give up on NIGGER too
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Disco Pickle on November 22, 2010, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: Subetai on November 22, 2010, 07:33:10 PM
Faggots are a delicious and traditional meal.

I thought they were cigarettes?

Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: hooplala on November 22, 2010, 07:35:44 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 07:34:52 PM"glorious faggot"

:oops: oops
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2010, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on November 22, 2010, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: Subetai on November 22, 2010, 07:33:10 PM
Faggots are a delicious and traditional meal.

I thought they were cigarettes?



No, those are fags.  Totally different thing.

You can also throw faggots on a fire.  Not the same kind of faggots you eat though, obviously.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2010, 07:38:43 PM
I was unfamiliar with this definition:

Fag
-verb
2. British . to require (a younger public-school pupil) to do menial chores.

-noun
10. British  Informal . a younger pupil in a British public school required to perform certain menial tasks for, and submit to the hazing of, an older pupil.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2010, 07:40:32 PM
Oh yes, I should copy out some sections of Tom Brown's Schooldays.  If you read "fag" in its modern context, the novels take on a whole different cast...
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 22, 2010, 07:35:44 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 07:34:52 PM"glorious faggot"

:oops: oops


See, I don't put qualifiers on these things.  I have not restrained my speech from my kids at home--in fact, we only tell them when it's appropriate to use cuss words.  And for all the f-bomb as it's politely called is thrown around liberally around this house, my kids NEVER cuss in front of adults.  Ever. 

I think language is a plastic thing that moves and shapes and breathes, but it has controls that you must learn in order to communicate successfully and effectively.  I'm hardly EVER the prescriptivist...I don't dictate (often) how people should term things so they are "nicer" or "less annoying," but instead find it fascinating when they adhere or DON'T to the social normative values of language.

/I actually quite fucking LOVE linguistics
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: Subetai on November 22, 2010, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on November 22, 2010, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: Subetai on November 22, 2010, 07:33:10 PM
Faggots are a delicious and traditional meal.

I thought they were cigarettes?



No, those are fags.  Totally different thing.

You can also throw faggots on a fire.  Not the same kind of faggots you eat though, obviously.

Can't you be also "quite fagged" as in tired/worn out, as well?  I think this is new(er) or very archaic, I disremember.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2010, 07:44:42 PM
That sounds about right.  Not sure where it comes from, possibly the smoking of fags leaving one out of breath and so tired, and it's not common, but I've heard it once or twice.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2010, 07:47:06 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 22, 2010, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 22, 2010, 07:30:35 PM
The difference is that these terms are being used, appropriately or not, within the context of a cohesive and affectionate social group. That's not the case when you go on the internet and refer to other people as fags or snatches, so while it's perfectly reasonable for me and my friends to call each other fags and snatches, it would be PRETTY FUCKING STUPID to say those things to a group of random internet people of various backgrounds and expect everyone to be cool with it.

Right, snatches?

The bitch has a point.

:thanks:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 07:48:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 10:32:09 AM

Do I get to call you racist now? Even if you didn't mean it in that way?

Finns are a race?  Who knew?


Haroa :lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Phox on November 22, 2010, 07:52:04 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 22, 2010, 07:34:32 PM
Quote from: Phox on November 22, 2010, 07:24:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 22, 2010, 07:16:43 PM
While Cram might be correct in the evolution of the term, if you asked someone what "fag" means, most would say either that it's a slur for homosexual, or that it explicitly was not a slur for homosexual-- that is, they believed it usually is a slur, "but not in the way I do it."

Which is simply a nice way of justifying why they use what they believe to be a homosexual slur.



This. Again, it depends on the perception of the person hearing it, not the "intention" of the person saying it.. "Newfag", "oldfag", etc. are direct derivatives from the use of "fag" as a homophobic slur, and they are still charged with that sentiment.


see I think they are direct derivatives of the word "fag" used as a generally insulting term

that's why you never hear anything like "newqueer" or "new-homo" or "newgay" or whatever else people insultingly call homosexuals these days



I think earlier ITT somebody posted a link to the southpark episode about this which encapsulates this discussion pretty well. The kids were pissed off that these bikers were being really obnoxious and spraypainted "GO AWAY FAGS" all over town. This prompted the elementary school to lecture them about tolerance for  homosexuals, which confused everybody. Eventually somebody said, "ohhh. .they think that we were referring to gay fags."


the same argument could apply to the word "whore". I can call somebody a drama-whore without being inherently offensive to women.

Or I can say "quit bitching", and it's not inherently sexist, even though if you tease it apart, I am saying that your whining reminds me of a woman.


(I'm not saying you're bitching BTW, just giving an example  :wink:)

Now, see, I don't think "queer", "homo", or "gay" would work because the LGBT community has appropriated those words for itself. On the whole, they are still very against the use of the word "fag", however, because it is innately an insult. So calling someone "newhomo" wouldn't read as insult to someone who wasn't homophobic to begin with.

And again, the issue isn't the usage, it's the common perception. The South Park episode is a great example. There is a misinterpretation of the way the word is being used, BUT the problem is society as a whole hasn't moved past "fag = gay" yet. In your other examples, society has sufficiently moved on, and it was only a comparatively recent shift.
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 22, 2010, 07:35:44 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 07:34:52 PM"glorious faggot"

:oops: oops


See, I don't put qualifiers on these things.  I have not restrained my speech from my kids at home--in fact, we only tell them when it's appropriate to use cuss words.  And for all the f-bomb as it's politely called is thrown around liberally around this house, my kids NEVER cuss in front of adults.  Ever.  

I think language is a plastic thing that moves and shapes and breathes, but it has controls that you must learn in order to communicate successfully and effectively.  I'm hardly EVER the prescriptivist...I don't dictate (often) how people should term things so they are "nicer" or "less annoying," but instead find it fascinating when they adhere or DON'T to the social normative values of language.

/I actually quite fucking LOVE linguistics

But the problem lies in the fact that language IS a very powerful social tool. Whether you adhere to the norms or not, is a statement about the kind of people you wish to associate with, whether you intend it to be or not. You can tell the most about a person by the way they speak above all other things.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 07:54:25 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 22, 2010, 07:35:44 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 07:34:52 PM"glorious faggot"

:oops: oops


That's different.  Salizoran customs have different standards.

Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 07:57:14 PM
Quote from: Phox on November 22, 2010, 07:52:04 PM

But the problem lies in the fact that language IS a very powerful social tool. Whether you adhere to the norms or not, is a statement about the kind of people you wish to associate with, whether you intend it to be or not. You can tell the most about a person by the way they speak above all other things.


What's the problem, exactly?  You're describing exactly what I said:  that language has social normative values, and a certain knowledge of them is required to function with any success while using it.

Now, English language LEARNERS (meaning:  people who don't speak the language indigenously NOR live within the cultures that speak it indigenously) don't always KNOW those values or live them, do they?  So their perception would be "off" sometimes.  And the internet is an INTERESTING place to learn those values, to say the least.

It's less black and white, is what I'm saying, than you seem to want to accept or purport, but then language, interaction and culture tends to be that way once you go past the "this is wrong, this is right, etc." sort of discussion.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 07:57:32 PM
Quote from: Phox on November 22, 2010, 06:50:25 PM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 22, 2010, 10:32:09 AM

Sorry, should've thought twice before using that. :weary: But is "oldfag" even a pejorative? I don't think it really applies any negative effects to the LGBT people, or anyone else for that matter.

It depends on how a person takes it. I for one find it offensive as fuck, so I repeat, fuck off with that shit.

Nigga wut?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2010, 07:59:17 PM
Wait, since when have queers not appropriated the word "fag"? We must live on different planets.

Also, "the LGBT community". :lulz:

Sorry, longstanding pet peeve.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 08:00:38 PM
Fag is like sexual harassment. Its only not okay when an ugly person does it
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 08:01:35 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 08:00:38 PM
Fag is like sexual harassment. Its only not okay when an ugly person does it

Wow.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Enrico Salazar on November 22, 2010, 08:01:39 PM
Wait wait wait.

"Faggot" is not term of endearment in USA?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Phox on November 22, 2010, 08:07:44 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 07:57:14 PM
Quote from: Phox on November 22, 2010, 07:52:04 PM

But the problem lies in the fact that language IS a very powerful social tool. Whether you adhere to the norms or not, is a statement about the kind of people you wish to associate with, whether you intend it to be or not. You can tell the most about a person by the way they speak above all other things.


What's the problem, exactly?  You're describing exactly what I said:  that language has social normative values, and a certain knowledge of them is required to function with any success while using it.

Now, English language LEARNERS (meaning:  people who don't speak the language indigenously NOR live within the cultures that speak it indigenously) don't always KNOW those values or live them, do they?  So their perception would be "off" sometimes.  And the internet is an INTERESTING place to learn those values, to say the least.

It's less black and white, is what I'm saying, than you seem to want to accept or purport, but then language, interaction and culture tends to be that way once you go past the "this is wrong, this is right, etc." sort of discussion.

Oh, i was agreeing with you. The "but the problem is" was leftover thought from my response to Cram. Sorry about that.

Quote from: Nigel on November 22, 2010, 07:59:17 PM
Wait, since when have queers not appropriated the word "fag"? We must live on different planets.

Also, "the LGBT community". :lulz:

Sorry, longstanding pet peeve.

I meant "officially". And when I refer to the "LGBT community" I mean the organizations that claim to be just that, not the actual collective of  homosexual people in the country. And you and I might as well live on separate planets in terms of tolerance levels. Acceptance of the community at large plays a large part in how a sub-group portrays itself. 
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 08:59:34 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 08:00:38 PM
Fag is like sexual harassment. Its only not okay when an ugly person does it

I see what you're saying, but I disagree.  Not making a fuss because someone's NOT ugly is not making it "okay," just means a certain tolerance is displayed at times when it shouldn't be. 

You should move further forward with your thoughts on this, though, rather than just dropping off a provocative statement.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: Enrico Salazar on November 22, 2010, 08:01:39 PM
Wait wait wait.

"Faggot" is not term of endearment in USA?

When you say it, I think it is.  It must have that descriptor, "glorious" in front of it, however, or all bets seem to be off...
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 08:59:34 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 08:00:38 PM
Fag is like sexual harassment. Its only not okay when an ugly person does it

I see what you're saying, but I disagree.  Not making a fuss because someone's NOT ugly is not making it "okay," just means a certain tolerance is displayed at times when it shouldn't be. 

You should move further forward with your thoughts on this, though, rather than just dropping off a provocative statement.

Considering I like to use the word fag when bumming a smoke I'm probally not the best to define socially acceptable. For example tv/film its ok often ignored for a gay person to use the word gay, otherwise press releases come from "lgbt community" group(s) tend to happen
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Dane$$a on November 22, 2010, 09:11:57 PM
Google bombing material removed - TGRR

Consider this your first, last, and only warning.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 09:13:41 PM
Don't make me toss your salad
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Phox on November 22, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
Quote from: Dane$$a on November 22, 2010, 09:11:57 PM
Please TO LEARN ENGLISH

DING DING DING,WE HAVE A WINNER!  :lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: hooplala on November 22, 2010, 09:14:44 PM
Quote from: Dane$$a on November 22, 2010, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 08:59:34 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 08:00:38 PM
Fag is like sexual harassment. Its only not okay when an ugly person does it

I see what you're saying, but I disagree.  Not making a fuss because someone's NOT ugly is not making it "okay," just means a certain tolerance is displayed at times when it shouldn't be. 

You should move further forward with your thoughts on this, though, rather than just dropping off a provocative statement.

Considering I like to use the word fag when bumming a smoke I'm probally not the best to define socially acceptable. For example tv/film its ok often ignored for a gay person to use the word gay, otherwise press releases come from "lgbt community" group(s) tend to happen

WHAT are you a NIGGER like me? Please TO LEARN ENGLISH peleus as to where normal human being can read your post

Are you still here?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Suu on November 22, 2010, 09:17:01 PM
This shit never ceases to amuse me at times.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 08:59:34 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 08:00:38 PM
Fag is like sexual harassment. Its only not okay when an ugly person does it

I see what you're saying, but I disagree.  Not making a fuss because someone's NOT ugly is not making it "okay," just means a certain tolerance is displayed at times when it shouldn't be.  

You should move further forward with your thoughts on this, though, rather than just dropping off a provocative statement.

Considering I like to use the word fag when bumming a smoke I'm probally not the best to define socially acceptable. For example tv/film its ok often ignored for a gay person to use the word gay, otherwise press releases come from "lgbt community" group(s) tend to happen

Ah, you're talking about the "within the target group only" prestige, otherwise, there's a taboo?  And sometimes this can be taken as hypocritical...I can see that.  But in understanding the power of a macroculture--you notice there's no rioting in the streets when someone gets called a "crackah"?  Why is that?  Where's the vitriol over something that's intended to be hurtful and a total slur?

There really isn't any.  The power structure of the culture has been skewed such that this particular taboo, though inflammatory, doesn't outweigh that of those who are underpowered.  It's simple politics, actually, and unfortunately for some.  Same for the homosexual community.  If they were "running things," as it were, then we would see less of a stance that only gays in the gay community can use the taboo language to effect without causing ill will.

There's also the factor of solidarity and whatnot thrown in when members of that select group call only each other that taboo word.  The layman term for that is "reempowerment" or something like that.  

In the end, it's intent and audience that is at the root of the usage.  What the interlocutor INTENDS the audience to interpret as meaning is every bit as important as what the audience presupposes and then interprets as the intended meaning.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Dane$$a on November 22, 2010, 09:29:25 PM
GOOGLE BOMBING and how??????? LMAO wat a joke
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: hooplala on November 22, 2010, 09:31:38 PM
and then?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2010, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 22, 2010, 09:31:38 PM
and then?

And then Dane$$a was a Poptard.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on November 22, 2010, 09:40:53 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 08:59:34 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on November 22, 2010, 08:00:38 PM
Fag is like sexual harassment. Its only not okay when an ugly person does it

I see what you're saying, but I disagree.  Not making a fuss because someone's NOT ugly is not making it "okay," just means a certain tolerance is displayed at times when it shouldn't be. 

You should move further forward with your thoughts on this, though, rather than just dropping off a provocative statement.

Considering I like to use the word fag when bumming a smoke I'm probally not the best to define socially acceptable. For example tv/film its ok often ignored for a gay person to use the word gay, otherwise press releases come from "lgbt community" group(s) tend to happen

Ah, you're talking about the "within the target group only" prestige, otherwise, there's a taboo?  And sometimes this can be taken as hypocritical...I can see that.  But in understanding the power of a macroculture--you notice there's no rioting in the streets when someone gets called a "crackah"?  Why is that?  Where's the vitriol over something that's intended to be hurtful and a total slur?

There really isn't any.  The power structure of the culture has been skewed such that this particular taboo, though inflammatory, doesn't outweigh that of those who are underpowered.  It's simple politics, actually, and unfortunately for some.  Same for the homosexual community.  If they were "running things," as it were, then we would see less of a stance that only gays in the gay community can use the taboo language to effect without causing ill will.

There's also the factor of solidarity and whatnot thrown in when members of that select group call only each other that taboo word.  The layman term for that is "reempowerment" or something like that. 

In the end, it's intent and audience that is at the root of the usage.  What the interlocutor INTENDS the audience to interpret as meaning is every bit as important as what the audience presupposes and then interprets as the intended meaning.

:mittens:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Triple Zero on November 22, 2010, 11:47:28 PM
Quote from: Subetai on November 22, 2010, 03:23:48 PM
My thoughts on this can be found, as always, here

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=26943.msg9585730#msg9585730 (http://www.bouldermountainguide.com/i/Brown%20Trout/IMG_0581-1-Wild_Brown-640-W.jpg)

Damnit. Been a long time since anyone but Cram caught me with one of those :lol:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Triple Zero on November 23, 2010, 12:08:35 AM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2010, 07:57:14 PM
Now, English language LEARNERS (meaning:  people who don't speak the language indigenously NOR live within the cultures that speak it indigenously) don't always KNOW those values or live them, do they?  So their perception would be "off" sometimes.  And the internet is an INTERESTING place to learn those values, to say the least.

This. As an example, right around the time of the Coup* was when this forum taught me how tearrible the word "nigger" is actually considered in english. Not that I used it, I knew people don't appreciate it, but I hadn't yet realized that using the word immediately makes one considered racist and a horrible person. And by now, looking back, I'm thinking WTF how could that not have been obvious to me.

(*5 years ago now? how long has it been? shouldn't we make it a holy day?)


also, I'm going to say FAG now a couple of times, in the non-homophobic sense of the word:

FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG
FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG
FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG

ah that felt good.

and I really want a cigarette now. I am conditioned nicely.





oh and Phox, your reply to about people not saying "newhomo" or "newqueer":
Quote from: PhoxNow, see, I don't think "queer", "homo", or "gay" would work because the LGBT community has appropriated those words for itself. On the whole, they are still very against the use of the word "fag", however, because it is innately an insult. So calling someone "newhomo" wouldn't read as insult to someone who wasn't homophobic to begin with.

is kind of missing the point. people don't say "newpoopstomper" either.



wait minute.

they DO say "newbie"

which is obviously a slur for bisexuals.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Cramulus on November 23, 2010, 12:27:35 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 23, 2010, 12:08:35 AM
also, I'm going to say FAG now a couple of times, in the non-homophobic sense of the word:

FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG
FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG
FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG FAG


LISTEN YOU WOODEN SHOE WEARING TULIP SNIFFING SPAGWAD
            \
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/horrormirth1-1.gif)



THAT IS FUCKING OFFENSIVE
            \
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/horrormirth1-1.gif)




ONE OF THOSE FAGS WAS HOMOPHOBIC
            \
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/horrormirth1-1.gif)
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Triple Zero on November 23, 2010, 12:29:51 AM
OH! You should TALK! Staring in disgust at that BLACK HOLE all the time!
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 23, 2010, 01:52:50 AM
I don't think that's disgust.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Chairman Risus on November 23, 2010, 04:06:22 AM
I may not be the realest discordian, but I know I'm the best.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: LMNO on November 23, 2010, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 23, 2010, 12:08:35 AM
which is obviously a slur for bisexuals.

Yeah, but they deserve it.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Gray Jester on November 23, 2010, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 23, 2010, 01:03:23 PM
Yeah, but they deserve it.

You all are just jealous that we've got better odds then gays -or- straights, and have better orgies to boot.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: LMNO on November 23, 2010, 03:29:48 PM
You also have double the chances of being rejected because you're an asshole.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Triple Zero on November 23, 2010, 03:37:56 PM
Eh? Where did that came from, then?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: LMNO on November 23, 2010, 03:45:12 PM
Just stating the odds.

If you're only hitting on half the population, and you're an asshole, you'll be rejected by 50% of the population.

If you're hitting on the whole world, you'll get rejected by everybody.



Plus, Bisexuals are worse than diabetics, you know?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Gray Jester on November 23, 2010, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 23, 2010, 03:29:48 PM
You also have double the chances of being rejected because you're an asshole.

Most gay men that I know love assholes.  :D
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: AFK on November 23, 2010, 04:19:00 PM
 :crankey:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 23, 2010, 04:52:08 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 23, 2010, 03:45:12 PM
Just stating the odds.

If you're only hitting on half the population, and you're an asshole, you'll be rejected by 50% of the population.

If you're hitting on the whole world, you'll get rejected by everybody.



Plus, Bisexuals are worse than diabetics, you know?

If you're hitting on the whole world, you are definitely an asshole, causing your rejection rate to skyrocket to nearly 100%.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2010, 05:43:29 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 23, 2010, 04:52:08 PM
If you're hitting on the whole world, you are definitely an asshole, causing your rejection rate to skyrocket to nearly 100%.

Then I guess all 6,850,000,000 of them had be ready for a little involuntary earhole intrusion.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Salty on November 23, 2010, 06:01:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2010, 05:43:29 PM
Then I guess all 6,850,000,000 of them had be ready for a little involuntary earhole intrusion.

TO THE WALL!













of their ear canal.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 23, 2010, 06:22:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2010, 05:43:29 PM
Then I guess all 6,850,000,000 of them had be ready for a little involuntary earhole intrusion.

AAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2010, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 23, 2010, 06:22:14 PM
AAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH :horrormirth:

As a Holy Man™, my vile and unnatural lusts must be slaked, or divine wrath will ensue.  Trust me, the earhole thing is better for everyone.

TGRR,
Knows that only Horrorsex™ can appease the Gods.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Lies on November 24, 2010, 03:56:25 AM
Quote from: Herbertina Merrique V on November 21, 2010, 10:15:40 PM

Alty and 000 have a point here, but so does Dalekk. Personally I've learned a lot of useful and inspiring stuff from this community, but it seems to me that people have to be very careful with what they post unless they are in the inner circle or otherwise already have a few oldfag friends to defend them if they make a single "mistake" in the way they think.



No, I've seen people in this mythical "inner circle" get into huge rows as well.
And I know that even people that you think are going to be on yourside when a row happens, won't be.
I suppose it can "look" like the "inner circle" protects each other or something, but really, they just happen to agree on certain stupidities *most* of the time, but they'll dig into each other when they believe one of "their own" is being a fuckwit.

This is Discordia, not kindergarden.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: geekdad on November 24, 2010, 04:34:20 AM
MY OPINIONS ON THIS SUBJECT AS SOMEBODY THAT HAS FOUND DISCORDIA AND PD.COM FOR LIKE A WEEK...TOTAL

Ok, seriously. OP your observations are overblown.

This (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=27417.0) was my first post and I thought it was treated with respect. It might be because I came humbly and not on any mighty high horse.

I can see how somebody who feels as though they are owed something (conciously or not) will come in a post and expect some semblence of respect, but fuck them. I don't owe them any respect except what they post, as such, if they show no respect in their first post, then they can take their binky, blanket, wooby bear, and go lay down and take a nap.

I can also see the situation where somebody hangs off every word that is posted because they really aren't confident (conciously or not). I am not a trained therapist, nor am I paid as one.

I don't find this place overly disrepectful what-so-ever, actually I don't think I have been made fun of (to my knowledge) yet. I probably have, but I'm so dense sometimes I can't tell.

Anyway.. that's my $.01234513452q34523452435234f

Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2010, 04:35:35 AM
Quote from: geekdad on November 24, 2010, 04:34:20 AM
Ok, seriously. OP your observations are overblown.

This (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=27417.0) was my first post and I thought it was treated with respect. It might be because I came humbly and not on any mighty high horse.

I can see how somebody who feels as though they are owed something (conciously or not) will come in a post and expect some semblence of respect, but fuck them. I don't owe them any respect except what they post, as such, if they show no respect in their first post, then they can take their binky, blanket, wooby bear, and go lay down and take a nap.

I can also see the situation where somebody hangs off every word that is posted because they really aren't confident (conciously or not). I am not a trained therapist, nor am I paid as one.

I don't find this place overly disrepectful what-so-ever, actually I don't think I have been made fun of (to my knowledge) yet. I probably have, but I'm so dense sometimes I can't tell.

Anyway.. that's my $.01234513452q34523452435234f



This.  Geekdad speaks wisdom.

But he's still a filthy primate, and I hate his stinking guts.

There.  You're in.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 24, 2010, 04:37:40 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2010, 04:35:35 AM
This.  Geekdad speaks wisdom.

But he's still a filthy primateLARPer, and I hate his stinking guts.

There.  You're in.
Edited for correctness. There are a great many studies showing that LARPers are in fact NOT primates of any order, but a distantly related sub-order of lichen.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: geekdad on November 24, 2010, 04:38:05 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2010, 04:35:35 AM
There.  You're in.

Kindly define "in"
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 24, 2010, 04:38:53 AM
Quote from: geekdad on November 24, 2010, 04:38:05 AM
Kindly define "in"

the opposite of "out"
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: geekdad on November 24, 2010, 04:39:00 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 24, 2010, 04:37:40 AM
Edited for correctness. There are a great many studies showing that LARPers are in fact NOT primates of any order, but a distantly related sub-order of lichen.

Awwww Coyote, I love you too.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2010, 04:39:31 AM
Quote from: geekdad on November 24, 2010, 04:38:05 AM
Kindly define "in"

You'll have to get my good friend Generalissimo Salazar to explain that.  It always makes me queasy.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 24, 2010, 04:40:13 AM
Quote from: geekdad on November 24, 2010, 04:39:00 AM
Awwww Coyote, I love you too.

See, such a filthy thing. Now where are my caribou...
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 24, 2010, 07:22:37 AM
That Geekdad asshole seems potentially worthy of acceptance as a fellow asshole.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Eater of Clowns on November 24, 2010, 06:09:13 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 24, 2010, 07:22:37 AM
That Geekdad asshole seems potentially worthy of acceptance as a fellow asshole.

Dammit, Nigel, this happens every time.  We can't keep every stray asshole, fuckbag, wankherjar, and merkinslinger we find on the street.  You put that asshole back where it came from this instant!
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 25, 2010, 06:07:53 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on November 24, 2010, 06:09:13 PM
Dammit, Nigel, this happens every time.  We can't keep every stray asshole, fuckbag, wankherjar, and merkinslinger we find on the street.  You put that asshole back where it came from this instant!

But daaaaaad! :cry:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Rev. Dr. Narot on November 25, 2010, 07:37:18 PM
Quote from: geekdad on November 24, 2010, 04:34:20 AM
MY OPINIONS ON THIS SUBJECT AS SOMEBODY THAT HAS FOUND DISCORDIA AND PD.COM FOR LIKE A WEEK...TOTAL


You lost me right there...
:supertard:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 25, 2010, 07:56:55 PM
Quote from: Rev. Dr. Narot on November 25, 2010, 07:37:18 PM
You lost me right there...
:supertard:

Then you probably should have continued reading.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: geekdad on November 26, 2010, 06:07:50 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 25, 2010, 07:56:55 PM
Then you probably should have continued reading.

Not empty quoting.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Salty on November 26, 2010, 06:16:58 AM
NOOB FIGHT!!!
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: geekdad on November 26, 2010, 06:20:21 AM
Quote from: Alty on November 26, 2010, 06:16:58 AM
NOOB FIGHT!!!

You forgot this img

(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3223/arguing3qa.jpg)
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Salty on November 26, 2010, 06:21:37 AM
Only because I thought that was a given.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Don Coyote on November 26, 2010, 06:30:41 AM
Quote from: Alty on November 26, 2010, 06:21:37 AM
Only because I thought that was a given.

Nothing is a given. Everything must be explained.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Salty on November 26, 2010, 06:38:41 AM
I don't gettit. 'splain yerself.
       /
:mullet:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 26, 2010, 08:12:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/cS7D4.jpg)

I'm posting this because I never get to post it.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Telarus on November 26, 2010, 08:15:01 AM
 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:


....YOINK ......
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Bruno on November 26, 2010, 10:11:13 AM
Quote from: geekdad on November 26, 2010, 06:20:21 AM
You forgot this img

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/EverybodyWins-1.jpg)

Fix'd
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: geekdad on November 26, 2010, 10:13:59 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on November 26, 2010, 10:11:13 AM
Fix'd

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/EverybodyWins-1.jpg)


Obviously this image is superior.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Rev. Dr. Narot on November 26, 2010, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 25, 2010, 07:56:55 PM
Then you probably should have continued reading.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 27, 2010, 02:09:15 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on November 26, 2010, 10:11:13 AM
Fix'd

This is vastly better.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Bruno on November 27, 2010, 03:26:11 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 27, 2010, 02:09:15 AM
This is vastly better.

Thanks.  8)

Also, What is up with the quote feture? :?
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 27, 2010, 03:33:49 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on November 27, 2010, 03:26:11 AM
Thanks.  8)

Also, What is up with the quote feture? :?

That's explained in some thread somewhere. Faust changed it to save bandwidth, but it doesn't really, but some of us like it better anyway because it's less cluttery or something.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 09:41:49 PM
Bump.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Adios on December 27, 2010, 09:46:35 PM
I was unable to complete the first page. As to the OP, if someone swallows bullshit how is that my fault? In really real Discordia no one believes anything they read, except what they themselves have posted, and usually less that half of that.

Damn you TGRR.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 09:48:11 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 27, 2010, 09:46:35 PM
I was unable to complete the first page. As to the OP, if someone swallows bullshit how is that my fault? In really real Discordia no one believes anything they read, except what they themselves have posted, and usually less that half of that.

Damn you TGRR.

Well, Dalekk did this in a drive-by posting, so I thought I'd give him a chance to read what he wrote under what was obviously a serious chemical excursion into self-righteous spagboy land.

I like to help.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Adios on December 27, 2010, 09:49:13 PM
It hurt my eyes.  :evil:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 09:50:36 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 27, 2010, 09:49:13 PM
It hurt my eyes.  :evil:

Then you weren't paying attention.

TGRR,
Only has one optic nerve left.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on December 28, 2010, 11:24:56 AM
Quote from: The Dark Monk on November 21, 2010, 08:42:17 PM
I always watch for Discordians who do not believe in the code, and eliminate them accordingly. Join the fold, or be destroyed.

:troof:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 28, 2010, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Able on December 28, 2010, 11:24:56 AM
Quote from: The Dark Monk on November 21, 2010, 08:42:17 PM
I always watch for Discordians who do not believe in the code, and eliminate them accordingly. Join the fold, or be destroyed.

:troof:

The funny part is, I can't for the life of me figure out which side you and TDM are endorsing.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Johnny on December 28, 2010, 07:09:12 PM

Its cheap to kick someone when they're down.

That being said, the OP blows.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 28, 2010, 07:14:41 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on December 28, 2010, 07:09:12 PM

Its cheap to kick someone when they're down.

That being said, the OP blows.

I just thought it was kind of funny that he shows up telling us all what a pack of dirtbags we are, then a couple of weeks later he shows up moaning about how fucked up his life is.

If a man kicks me and then falls down, damn straight I'm gonna kick him.
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: the last yatto on December 28, 2010, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 28, 2010, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Able on December 28, 2010, 11:24:56 AM
Quote from: The Dark Monk on November 21, 2010, 08:42:17 PM
I always watch for Discordians who do not believe in the code, and eliminate them accordingly. Join the fold, or be destroyed.

:troof:

The funny part is, I can't for the life of me figure out which side you and TDM are endorsing.   :lulz:

Doesn't help I don't know either
Title: Re: Really real discordians
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2010, 10:14:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 28, 2010, 07:14:41 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on December 28, 2010, 07:09:12 PM

Its cheap to kick someone when they're down.

That being said, the OP blows.

I just thought it was kind of funny that he shows up telling us all what a pack of dirtbags we are, then a couple of weeks later he shows up moaning about how fucked up his life is.

If a man kicks me and then falls down, damn straight I'm gonna kick him.

It's not kind of funny.

It's fucking hilarious.