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#9196
Principia Discussion / Re: Ancient Greeks and Eris
January 23, 2007, 04:11:04 PM
Fuck me, do I wish I could memorise that tirade. There are so many people that I want to shout that at.

Way to bitchslap a dumb fuck rog.  :mittens:
#9197
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Target Audience?
January 23, 2007, 04:04:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 23, 2007, 03:56:08 PM
Stupid people get alot of things.  Sex appeal, monetary gain, apparent immunity from doing things wrong (because they are stupid, which is one step off insane, I am reliably informed) and a ton of other stuff.  They never feel lonely or in doubt either.

But they're stupid. That would seem to make them sorta subhuman or less worthy than smart people. Is it right to use them? Con tricks work really well on stupid people. I should know I used to follow that line of work, seperating idiots from their cash. I started to get a guilt thing going on and I don't think I would do it now but, at the same time, they're stupid - isn't that as good a use for them as any?
#9198
Or Kill Me / Re: Rev Roger's Least Fit Monkey Theory:
January 23, 2007, 04:00:29 PM
Quote from: Idem on January 23, 2007, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on January 23, 2007, 03:46:49 PM
Nothing's thriving. We've kinda seen to that. Bacteria, viri, cockroaches maybe.
Fuck, we've made alot of them STRONGER with medicine.

Hell yeah - penecillin won the battle but, ultimately, might well turn out to have lost us the war.
#9199
Or Kill Me / Re: Rev Roger's Least Fit Monkey Theory:
January 23, 2007, 03:58:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 23, 2007, 03:48:04 PM
Cabbages.

If it came down to a war between us and cabbages I'd give us a fighting chance. There's a lot to be said for a tactical military strike with conventional and nuclear weapons v's lying, half buried in the ground getting slightly bigger whenever it rains.

*edit* just in case I'm wrong, of course, maybe we should organise concentration camps right now.
#9200
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Target Audience?
January 23, 2007, 03:50:16 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 23, 2007, 03:31:56 PM
As anectdotal evidence shows, the BIP is for Smart People.

Stupid people don't seem to "get it".


LMNO
-feeling assholish today.

Do you think there's anything that stupid people would get? Is it worth even bothering to try or do the mainstream religions have the right idea - make them docile and fleece them for every penny they own.
#9201
Or Kill Me / Re: Rev Roger's Least Fit Monkey Theory:
January 23, 2007, 03:46:49 PM
Nothing's thriving. We've kinda seen to that. Bacteria, viri, cockroaches maybe.
#9202
Or Kill Me / Re: Rev Roger's Least Fit Monkey Theory:
January 23, 2007, 03:21:36 PM
Crocodiles have been around a while too. They've gotten a little smaller in response to food level fluctuations but that's about it.
#9203
Or Kill Me / Re: Rev Roger's Least Fit Monkey Theory:
January 23, 2007, 09:59:10 AM
Also our weak links don't get eaten anymore. Fkin equal rights and social conscience kills lulz. Humanity is natures reject bin.
#9204
Bring and Brag / Re: 3173 Kalendar
January 22, 2007, 09:05:36 PM
Awesome work!
#9205
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
January 22, 2007, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on January 22, 2007, 05:46:08 PM
I genuinely don't care about immigration policy.
I'm just going to let someone else formulate my opinion on it.
Any takers? Next thing that sounds good is my new opinion on immigration.


:mittens: :potd:
#9206
Or Kill Me / Re: Completely random post
January 22, 2007, 06:55:28 PM
Anyone who puts an actual, honest to fuck, self sentient AI, in a robot, is asking for trouble. It's an idiot of a concept (that's why I'm not ruling out an idiot doing it) but for robots to sell, as slaves (which is the only reason you'd want one) it only has to do things like parse voice commands and carry them out according to a very basic (by comparison to the human mind) neural net.

A truly sentient Robot would say "fuck you" when you told it to wash the dishes or build you a new house. What's the point of shelling out 30 grand for a Synthetic-Cynthia Fuck Buddy when she doesn't fancy you and moves out the next day, along with the cleaning droid? Problem I see with these things is going to be the hacker element. Annoying spam, requesting that your stupid ass logs your bank details into a trojan screen pales into comparison with the idea of your heavy lifting robot, carrying you down to the ATM and refusing to stop squeezing your neck until you've withdrawn your daily limit.
#9207
I tend to compare physics and religion from the 'belief system' angle both provide working models for how the universe works. In physics it's all to do with maths and in religion it's a guy with a beard. In any 'beard guy' scenario there's a 'what he wants you to do' issue. This usually affects moral codes and whatnot, whereas science the issue is 'what do you want to do'. Both systems have their drawbacks

Religion really puts you out of the picture. God wants you for a dancing puppy and you basically have to live your life the most tedious way possible for fear that you may slide off life's conveyor belt and into the burning reject bin. Okay yeah, its got morals. "God says 'thou shalt not kill' you can't argue with that can you?" Well, to be perfectly honest, if you need god to tell you it's wrong to steal from someone, or to fuck their spouse behind their back, or even kill them then you're a concern to me. Historically god has been known to change his mind. I don't want to be living next door to you if and when this happens.

Physics is much less bothered about what you 'should' be doing and 'why are you here' and more concerned with splitting atoms into ever smaller pieces and then finding out what weird and wonderful technological marvel you can build out of them. Physics completely ignores the human curiosity about the 'soul' or 'Consciousness' as it's referred. You can tell how alien a notion it really is to them whenever they come across it. Quantum theory is fucking with a lot of physicists heads due, in no small part to the fact that they've gone so far into the macrocosm that they're starting to see the microcosm reflected.

Faithfools scab at physicists cos it doesn't explain the big questions of self and ego and soul and shit and fundamentalist physicists get on their high horse cos "There's no way you could fit that many breeding pairs of animals in one boat" and both seem to ignore the glaring deficiency in both their world views. It's of note that both camps seem equally fervent in their chosen belief system.

Once again the middle way seems preferable to me.
#9208
Principia Discussion / Re: HIMEOBS ---> Dead.
January 22, 2007, 05:30:29 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 22, 2007, 05:26:03 PM
I'm thinking of pronouncing this board humorless.

WTF happened?

My theory is they was just pining for you and took their frustration out on each other. Classic aggression transference.
#9209
Actually it's the reverse. My 'fuckhead' file is all the people who may stand in the way of my quest for world domination. The 'smart' people are the ones I should, quite easily, be able to subjugate, once the fuckheads are taken care of.
#9210
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2007, 04:59:20 PM
Physics is not normative, fortunately.  It doesn't tell us how to live our lives, only what is possible to do with them.

Thats my acid test for a belief system. Anyone I encounter who subscribes to one which fails this criteria is immediately filed under 'fuckhead' in my mental notation. That's not to say that passing the belief system test disqualifies someone from receiving that accolade but it's a step in the right direction.