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Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Last post by Faust on November 15, 2018, 12:09:27 pm »
Direct rule would accelerate the process, union support would drop rapidly, which the Tory's could be happy with, and bring forward a border poll, I'd be happy with that but it would be chaos.

More resignations. Gove absent from HOC so he's probably going to jump ship as well.
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Last post by Cain on November 15, 2018, 11:58:43 am »
Assuming Stormont ever gets going again, that is.  Between this and the Tories tainting themselves as an actor in the process, I can see direct rule being reimposed...with all that entails.
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Last post by Faust on November 15, 2018, 11:47:37 am »
That is very candid, surprised there wasn't backlash over that comment.

It will be seen that way, it's no secret that if it all goes to shit the DUP and tories will have that blame laid at their doorstep. Pretending NI doesn't exist (tories) or trying to drive a wedge between NI and the Republic(DUP) would accelerate a united Ireland.
It's cynical, but all SF have had to do is sit back and watch the dumpster fire and step in in  a year to say how much better it would be to be part of the republic.
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Last post by Cain on November 15, 2018, 10:55:30 am »
This is unusually frank, even for an Irish diplomat

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Irish diplomatic source, while May is speaking: “Our caution is being shown to be well placed… If the crazies tear it down, the Irish people will know the crazies tore it down.“
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Last post by Cain on November 15, 2018, 10:52:13 am »
The EU is also saying this is as good a deal as they can provide, that "the EU is at the limit of what will work on EU side - this is an extraordinarily generous EU approach to the British."
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Last post by Cain on November 15, 2018, 10:49:34 am »
May's trying the same thing, saying it's her deal, no deal or no Brexit.

Labour are also against it, no surprise.  Labour + ERG rebels could kill this in Parliament.  That's assuming May is still PM next week, which is not a given.
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Last post by Faust on November 15, 2018, 10:27:07 am »
Raab failed to negotiate anything, was belligerent with the EU who just stonewalled him and negotiation had to continue without him.
He should be resigning, but not because of the deal proposed, but because of his abject failure to bring home any alternative.
I'm seeing some comments about Ref2 which up until now the brexiteers were saying would violate "the will of the people". I am hoping if it comes down to it, it will be ref on this deal, or stay in the EU.
No deal should never be presented as an option because it would go through without anyone thinking about the consequences.
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Last post by Cain on November 15, 2018, 10:22:26 am »
The chaos has started.  3 resignations, and while the DUP don't seem to be actively taking steps thus far, they are cheerleading the dissenters.
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Principia Discussion / Re: Chaos is Energy
« Last post by Dildo Argentino on November 15, 2018, 05:22:24 am »
Look, this thing is my baby. That doesn't mean it's perfect or that I can't take criticism, but if you're gonna come in here and go HOLY NONSENSE HAS PROBLEMS and then quote one of the five sections pulled from the Principia and act like this is a Holy Nonsense problem IN PRINCIPIA DISCUSSION, I'm gonna get my hackles up.

When have you known him NOT to be a passive-aggressive shitbag?  :lulz:

Ow, don't be like that!!
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