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Started by rong, January 20, 2014, 01:36:19 PM

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Quote from: Faust on March 04, 2014, 10:54:05 PM
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Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 10:12:25 PM

Could it be said that its all about balance?


Economically there is no balance, it's more of a cycle, with a different group on the shit end of the stick each turn it takes.

Randomness dictating who gets the shit end?
Either through random genetic traits allowing you to have skills to pay the bills, or through actual randomness first come, first serve!! If a shit worker comes to the front of the line first, toooo baaaad!

Hrm, no I didn't say random I just said there isn't a balance, it's a complex multivariate system that has a lot of determining factors.

For instance we have had bad weather here for the last few weeks.
Bad weather means few fish caught which means fishermen get less money which means less money in an area, and less fish means more expensive fish which means more expensive food in hotels and restaurants (who tend to buy a lot of fish), higher expenses for hotels of restaurants means recouping cash which means less work hours to go around for staff which means harder working conditions or it means less options for tourists to eat which can mean negative reviews and less people coming.

Now apply this globally, built up of every little component and add in peoples greed, corruption and incompetence as well as the vaguely insane workings of government and you get a rough approximation of what is actually going on.
A system that appears random at a glance which is actually incredibly ordered by volatile.

Thanks for clearing that up.

So like a casino.
With a zoomed in view of one player and one machine, it appears completely random. Even though, nothing is random at all because the casino bosses created the games to be stacked in their favor from the very beginning. Technically giving you the 'possibility' but not the likely hood of victory.
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I am a nobody,
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that you are too.

If you say its a bad idea
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you likely are also saying nobody,
should listen to you.

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and the odds are
that you are too.

If you say its a bad idea
to listen to a nobody;
you likely are also saying nobody,
should listen to you.

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 11:14:42 PM
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Look at it this way; money is actually a representation of work. When it changes hands, it is buying work of some kind in exchange for someone else's work. If you view it as a representation of work, when it isn't changing hands, what does that mean?

It means you're putting work into a time capsule.  Work gets teleported directly into the future.

In this future it could be worth more or less or the same as it was worth before.
The mattress equates to being a kind of a teleporter/shrink ray of randomness.

The time between being sent and being received has less money circulating.
Which, means the economy's circulatory system has less blood to pump.

Causing symptoms, not death. If symptoms persist, because society is a cowardly hypochondriac, it decides to amputate its own arms and legs so that it doesn't need to use as much blood.

The poor limbs suffer, while the brain and  a few random dangling parts have a party on a golden wheel chair.


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And, if you look at it that way, which is better for the economy; saving up today's work in order to spend it later, or exchanging all your work for someone else's work now, and in return, when you get old or otherwise lack the ability to work, those who are still capable of doing a lot of work take care of your basic needs?

Out of the kindness of their own heart? Or would you take care of an old person till they passed, then you would inherit some sort of stale chocolate coin. Then when your old, someone who want that security would help you for your coin? (eating the chocolate would also be an option)

The idea is sound on principle, people are just too #%@#!$ (something too profane for words) to be trusted with the lives of a nice (or crotchety) old person for anything but their own personal gain. (Thats a generalization too, of course there are sweet lovely (insert gender oriented description here) moralfags too.

It's an old-timey idea I like to call "socialism". Some of the civilized countries have found that it works really well.
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work really well

Compared to the other systems(failed experiments) probably, but another original idea could spring up from somewhere. Hopefully one that doesn't involve forcing itself on people at gun point. Australia has a great thing going, but they are still very human too.
Who am I?
I am a nobody,
and the odds are
that you are too.

If you say its a bad idea
to listen to a nobody;
you likely are also saying nobody,
should listen to you.

Do not trust the authorities on a subject;
simply because they are the authority.

Listen to them only if what they say is truth.

~O.R.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 12:23:20 AM
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work really well

Compared to the other systems(failed experiments) probably, but another original idea could spring up from somewhere. Hopefully one that doesn't involve forcing itself on people at gun point. Australia has a great thing going, but they are still very human too.

Unlike those inhuman beasts in Denmark, Finland, and The Netherlands, you mean?  :lol:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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Quote from: Nigel on March 05, 2014, 01:20:34 AM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 12:23:20 AM
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work really well

Compared to the other systems(failed experiments) probably, but another original idea could spring up from somewhere. Hopefully one that doesn't involve forcing itself on people at gun point. Australia has a great thing going, but they are still very human too.

Unlike those inhuman beasts in Denmark, Finland, and The Netherlands, you mean?  :lol:

Well, you don't exactly hear about their contributions to the world though. Furthermore, Den, Fin, and Neth are human too; meant that as a fair insult.

They might have some feel good stats to brag about, and those places are would be desirable to live in.
Its just that they still have their dirty secrets and realities of life. Just on a much smaller scare than the completely failed experiments.

(Note: Police actions are the opposite of contributions in any way shape of form.)

Who am I?
I am a nobody,
and the odds are
that you are too.

If you say its a bad idea
to listen to a nobody;
you likely are also saying nobody,
should listen to you.

Do not trust the authorities on a subject;
simply because they are the authority.

Listen to them only if what they say is truth.

~O.R.

Faust

Quote from: Scilon Agent on March 11, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
I hate pennies. Useless crap that clogs up my pockets. Some people save them like shiny rocks in huge jars to someday trade them for $37.50. I just throw every penny I get right in the trash.

Into the trash it goes.

We'll I hate waste but it's not like you spent it on bitcoin or something at least in the trash it still has some tangible value.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Scilon Agent on March 11, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
I hate pennies. Useless crap that clogs up my pockets. Some people save them like shiny rocks in huge jars to someday trade them for $37.50. I just throw every penny I get right in the trash.

Into the trash it goes.

You are obviously some kind of communist.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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Quote from: Scilon Agent on March 11, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
I hate pennies. Useless crap that clogs up my pockets. Some people save them like shiny rocks in huge jars to someday trade them for $37.50. I just throw every penny I get right in the trash.

Into the trash it goes.

I love how this is written. There's something appealing about it that I can't place.

It's also, while not a thing I agree with, a more sensible money idea than the OP.
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EoC doesn't make creepy.

EoC makes creepy worse.

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the afflicted persons get hold of and consume carrots even in socially quite unacceptable situations.

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Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 11, 2014, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: Scilon Agent on March 11, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
I hate pennies. Useless crap that clogs up my pockets. Some people save them like shiny rocks in huge jars to someday trade them for $37.50. I just throw every penny I get right in the trash.

Into the trash it goes.

I love how this is written. There's something appealing about it that I can't place.

It's also, while not a thing I agree with, a more sensible money idea than the OP.
This noob is suspiciously promising.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Scilon Agent on March 11, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
I hate pennies. Useless crap that clogs up my pockets. Some people save them like shiny rocks in huge jars to someday trade them for $37.50. I just throw every penny I get right in the trash.

Into the trash it goes.

I save shiny rocks in huge jars.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Scilon Agent on March 11, 2014, 09:34:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2014, 09:23:28 PM
communist.

And yet I live alone. It's more about taking the trouble to deal with the currency. Is it worth my time? No, no it is not. I suggest you follow my enlightenment, consider the following;


I don't.

Enlightenment is for Buddhists.  And I fucking hate Buddhists.  Bastards.  "Here today, and here tomorrow."  When people get off of my fucking planet, they are supposed to STAY gone, not fucking come back slumming as a Goddamn dung beetle or something. 

"When I crucify a man, he should fucking well STAY crucified."
- Casca Longinius Rufus
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Scilon Agent on March 11, 2014, 09:34:00 PM

3. After you have assembled the worthless pennies you have to store them somewhere

In a sock.  Attitudes, for the correction of, one each.

Whack.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

I save shiny jars.  I believe they could form a viable alternative currency to the Fed-dominated filthy rigged state-backed system we currently have.