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Started by Pæs, November 14, 2013, 09:32:01 AM

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Pæs

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24927078

The death of MI6 spy Gareth Williams, whose body was found in a padlocked sports bag, was probably an accident, police have said.

Last year, a coroner said it was likely Mr Williams, 31, from Anglesey, had been unlawfully killed in August 2010.

But the Metropolitan Police said an evidence review had found "it was more probable" no other person was present when he died in his London flat.

Mr Williams's family said they stood by the coroner's findings.

In a statement, they said: "We are naturally disappointed that it is still not possible to state with certainty how Gareth died and the fact that the circumstances of his death are still unknown adds to our grief.

"We consider that on the basis of the facts at present known, the coroner's verdict accurately reflects the circumstances of Gareth's death."

Mr Williams's body was found naked at his flat in Pimlico on 23 August 2010 after colleagues raised concerns for his welfare.

He had been on a secondment with MI6 from his job as a communications officer at the GCHQ "listening post" in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.

Police discovered his body inside a zipped-up red sports holdall, in the empty bath of his bathroom.

It had taken a week for MI6 to investigate the code-breaker's disappearance, and a post-mortem examination carried out by a Home Office pathologist failed to determine the cause of death.

During a seven-day inquest in May 2012, the question of whether Mr Williams could have padlocked himself into a bag in a bath was central.

Pathologists said he would have suffocated within three minutes if he had been alive when he got inside it.

None of his DNA was found on the lock attached to the bag and his palm prints were not found on the rim of the bath.

Coroner Fiona Wilcox concluded that "most of the fundamental questions in relation to how Gareth died remain unanswered".

But she said he was, "on the balance of probabilities", unlawfully killed.

At a briefing on Wednesday, the Met Police announced the conclusion of its three-year investigation into the incident.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Martin Hewitt said he was satisfied it was "theoretically possible" Mr Williams could have padlocked the bag from the inside, although "many questions remain unanswered" as to the circumstances of his death.

But he said there was no evidence that the MI6 officer had intended to take his own life or that his death was connected to his work.

And he insisted it was "beyond credibility" that he had been misled.

"I do not believe that I have had the wool pulled over my eyes. I believe that what we are dealing with is a tragic unexplained death," he said.

There were about 10 to 15 traces of DNA in the flat from which it had not been possible to gain full DNA profiles, but all other DNA profiles and fingerprints had been eliminated, said DAC Hewitt.

'Endless speculation'
DAC Hewitt also said there was no evidence that Mr Williams' flat had been forensically cleaned, adding it was a "fallacy" that it had been deep-cleaned in such a way that only certain DNA was left in the premises.

He acknowledged that the coroner, having studied "all the evidence available at that stage" had made "the logical inference that it was more likely someone else was involved in Gareth's death".

"However, she also recognised that there has been endless speculation but little real evidence and it was her view [that] 'it is unlikely that his death will ever be satisfactorily explained'," he said.

"Now at the end of our investigation, based on the evidence, or where we have been unable to find positive evidence, we believe that it is a more probable conclusion that there was no other person present when Gareth died.

"But the reality is that for both hypotheses, there exist evidential contradictions and gaps in our understanding."

Cain

I love how trained contortionists struggled, repeatedly, to replicate his feat.

And how he wiped down his entire flat, turned up the heating (in the middle of a hot summer), deleted his mobile phone records, and then locked himself in the bag.  For unknown reasons.

And then it took a week to notice he was missing, despite, you know, him working for GCHQ and GCHQ listening in on every phone call made in this country, collecting large amounts of metadata (like geolocation on mobiles) and running unaccountable black ops.  You can't fart in Westminster without GCHQ getting a recording, yet one of their top mathematicians somehow managed to go missing for a week without anyone raising an alarm.

And then MI6 cleared out his locker and work desk.

But nothing suspicious happened.  He just locked himself in a bag because he's gay, and that's what gays do.

Faust

So MI6 Killed him, they are bragging about it with these articles and have been for months.

So what did he actually do? Selling secrets, talking to the wrong people or something more trivial than that?
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Cain

Hard to say.  Better to turn an agent selling secrets than killing them, as a rule.  You can feed them misinformation, and then control what enemy agencies think they know...which is almost as good as turning one of their own.

What we do know suggests that maybe Williams was looking at online organised crime.  He had the skill set of a hacker, and had been attending certain hacker conferences in the months before he died.  Was he being prepared for undercover work?

Online organised crime, especially in Russia, the Middle East and SE Asia often has an especially nasty offline operation as well.  Maybe Williams was investigating someone who had protection, was an intelligence asset, and their price for continued cooperation was the removal of this troublesome programmer.

Not sold on that theory, mind you, but it's a suggestion I've seen.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Cain on November 14, 2013, 11:37:51 AM
Hard to say.  Better to turn an agent selling secrets than killing them, as a rule.  You can feed them misinformation, and then control what enemy agencies think they know...which is almost as good as turning one of their own.

What we do know suggests that maybe Williams was looking at online organised crime.  He had the skill set of a hacker, and had been attending certain hacker conferences in the months before he died.  Was he being prepared for undercover work?

Online organised crime, especially in Russia, the Middle East and SE Asia often has an especially nasty offline operation as well.  Maybe Williams was investigating someone who had protection, was an intelligence asset, and their price for continued cooperation was the removal of this troublesome programmer.

Not sold on that theory, mind you, but it's a suggestion I've seen.

Makes more sense than he did it himself.
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Faust

Quote from: Cain on November 14, 2013, 11:37:51 AM
Hard to say.  Better to turn an agent selling secrets than killing them, as a rule.  You can feed them misinformation, and then control what enemy agencies think they know...which is almost as good as turning one of their own.

What we do know suggests that maybe Williams was looking at online organised crime.  He had the skill set of a hacker, and had been attending certain hacker conferences in the months before he died.  Was he being prepared for undercover work?

Online organised crime, especially in Russia, the Middle East and SE Asia often has an especially nasty offline operation as well.  Maybe Williams was investigating someone who had protection, was an intelligence asset, and their price for continued cooperation was the removal of this troublesome programmer.

Not sold on that theory, mind you, but it's a suggestion I've seen.

Sounds possible, he was at blackhat a few weeks before he was killed, chances are whatever he did to get himself killed he did there. As you say if leaks are more valuable alive, then it was something else he either pissed someone off with connections to his bosses or successfully sold something that shouldn't have been sold, maybe both.
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