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Started by Jasper, January 13, 2007, 04:54:48 AM

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The Cosmic Giggle

It was mentioned in the PD somewhere, I think.  More and more humor is becoming the preferred mode of spirituality for me and I'd hear other people's thoughts on this mysterious concept. 

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Quote from: Felix Mackay on January 13, 2007, 04:54:48 AM
The Cosmic Giggle

It was mentioned in the PD somewhere, I think.  More and more humor is becoming the preferred mode of spirituality for me and I'd hear other people's thoughts on this mysterious concept. 

Humour is the only form of spirituality that I can relate to. This is taken as a flippant remark to a lot of people I've spoken to. Most of them have no idea how deep it goes.

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Sometimes I take humor seriously other times I take seriousness humorously.  Or something like that.

I think humor can be a good tool for disarming barriers. 
At the same time, too much can blur the message, which I think many of beleve is one of the PD pitfalls.
Also, humor changes from generation to generation so in spirituality it will be most effective if it can adapt with the changing times. 
It definitely has a place.  Because you have to laugh at your surroundings from time to time or else everyone would be fashioning neck ties out of rope.
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Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 13, 2007, 05:53:39 PMAt the same time, too much can blur the message, which I think many of beleve is one of the PD pitfalls.

also, humour in larger quantities can kind of get bland.
even monty python gets tedious if you watch it in a marathon.

also if you crack a few good jokes, you're liable to get into a silly mood, causing you to make a lot more, which might not be terribly funny anymore, a day later.

on the other hand, having a big long out loud laughing spell (IRL) can be a very invigorating experience. trouble remains, that "outsiders" will probably not enjoy it that much.

QuoteAlso, humor changes from generation to generation so in spirituality it will be most effective if it can adapt with the changing times. 
It definitely has a place.  Because you have to laugh at your surroundings from time to time or else everyone would be fashioning neck ties out of rope.

humour is a good and powerful thing. it's like holding up a mirror (does this metaphor exist in english?). in a "it's funny because it's true" kind of way, even the most retarded jokes have a grain of troof in them.
also it allows people to say things they otherwise maybe wouldn't dare to. like the court jester being the only one able to insult the king. like latenight comedy shows are usually very critical (and sometimes very retarded).
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Jasper

Yes, we seem to all agree that humor is essential to discordia, but what is the Cosmic Giggle?

It seems to hint at some mind state that comprehends humor in all things as a state of enlightenment, which would suggest that spirituality can be purified by developing one's sense of humor.

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Quote from: Felix Mackay on January 13, 2007, 06:21:11 PMYes, we seem to all agree that humor is essential to discordia, but what is the Cosmic Giggle?

according to google, it wasn't mentioned in the PD, but appears (exclusively) in a widely-copied blurb from the back-side of the Illuminatus Trilogy.

(not that humour isn't a good subject, or that "cosmic giggle" isn't a funky phrase, just saying)
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Jasper

Okay.  So it's not in any holy book, but what is it? 

Triple Zero

i dunno man, i never really encountered the term before.

first impression to me, just going by the words, is like some kind of cosmic background radiation, but then a giggle instead, like the Goddess who done it all quietly giggling, because reality in fact started out as the One Big Jake, just to fuck with us.
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Jasper

What if WE were created to fuck with something else?  That would explain (to me) all the poignant, arbitrary, idiotic grandness of everything.

Triple Zero

why with something else?

what if we were just created to fuck with, period.
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You made the same mistake most people I say that to make. It's deeper than that - I'll try to explain. The split second where you laugh in response to something the universe has manifested, right in that tiny satorial instant, is the nearest thing I have found to a meaning for my existence. If there's a god and he made me and the universe (Don't even start I know, mmkay - I'm just saying 'if') then he did it so I would laugh at it and vice versa. With much practice laughing you become accustomed to seeing the funny side of more and more things. You get better at snagging the punchline and then your body reacts to it by laughing. Thereby filling your life up with more and more meaningful moments of connection.

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meaning. yes that's it.

it's exactly that, humour lets you experience meaning.

meaning is something really real, it can manifest independent of medium, but still affect reality in the same way.

it's very possible that humour lets you glimpse a piece of this universalness of meaning.

(there's a bit more to that, but i'm not gonna quote Goedel Escher Bach again, just read it for yourself this time)
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Jasper

I understood, Cybin.

I've confused myself though.  Is there some possible synergesis between seriousness and humorousness that combines the best of both into something new?

Herimous.  Humorous seriousness.

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Quote from: Felix Mackay on January 13, 2007, 07:26:00 PMHerimous.  Humorous seriousness.

.. sounds hideously heinous to me :)
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I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark