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Schools now have M16s

Started by Sita, September 18, 2014, 01:03:09 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Sita on September 18, 2014, 01:03:09 PM
Do the officers in the schools really need M16s? I'd think a pistol would be enough.
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/26561770/pinellas-schools-police-buys-m16-rifles
Quote"It's necessary for the officers to have the tools to be able to safely deploy and take care of the threats that are occurring in our schools without having to get so close to a terrible threat that they put other students or themselves in harm's way before they can take the necessary action to stop the threat," the chief explained Wednesday afternoon.

He declined to say how the rifles will be stored on a dozen school campuses, but claimed they will be both secure and "quickly accessible."

The department is still developing a training and deployment program, but expects to have the first weapons in service by Thanksgiving.

And if your kid gets a failing grade, they make dad come in and shoot free throws, to prove he's a man.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Hoopla on September 18, 2014, 01:29:23 PM
Absolutely flame thrower.

And start with that goddam rope in the gym.

The rope stays.  See my above post.
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Sita

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 18, 2014, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: Sita on September 18, 2014, 01:03:09 PM
Do the officers in the schools really need M16s? I'd think a pistol would be enough.
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/26561770/pinellas-schools-police-buys-m16-rifles
Quote"It's necessary for the officers to have the tools to be able to safely deploy and take care of the threats that are occurring in our schools without having to get so close to a terrible threat that they put other students or themselves in harm's way before they can take the necessary action to stop the threat," the chief explained Wednesday afternoon.

He declined to say how the rifles will be stored on a dozen school campuses, but claimed they will be both secure and "quickly accessible."

The department is still developing a training and deployment program, but expects to have the first weapons in service by Thanksgiving.

And if your kid gets a failing grade, they make dad come in and shoot free throws, to prove he's a man.
God my husband would be in the gym for the entirety of my son's scholastic life then :eek:
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Sita on September 18, 2014, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 18, 2014, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: Sita on September 18, 2014, 01:03:09 PM
Do the officers in the schools really need M16s? I'd think a pistol would be enough.
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/26561770/pinellas-schools-police-buys-m16-rifles
Quote"It's necessary for the officers to have the tools to be able to safely deploy and take care of the threats that are occurring in our schools without having to get so close to a terrible threat that they put other students or themselves in harm's way before they can take the necessary action to stop the threat," the chief explained Wednesday afternoon.

He declined to say how the rifles will be stored on a dozen school campuses, but claimed they will be both secure and "quickly accessible."

The department is still developing a training and deployment program, but expects to have the first weapons in service by Thanksgiving.

And if your kid gets a failing grade, they make dad come in and shoot free throws, to prove he's a man.
God my husband would be in the gym for the entirety of my son's scholastic life then :eek:

No, you only get three throws, unfortunately.
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- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Suu

PINELLAS COUNTY SCHOOLS FTW!

:banana:

-Suu
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Suu

I'm going to play devil's advocate here.

As someone who grew up in this school district, in the city that Florida lovingly refers to as "Detroit South," where the schools' police officers are ALREADY St. Petersburg/Pinellas Park/Clearwater/Largo/Dunedin/Tarpon Police or Pinellas County Sheriffs, it's not coming across as anything out of the ordinary other than that it has the school district's name on them, instead of the county or city's. I feel this is partially sensationalist journalism. Does a school district need M-16s? Well, it's hard to say. We had riots in 1996, I had to be wanded when I got off the bus to go to school. My high school was known for 2 things: its football team and its rapes. No, I'm not fucking joking, my parents were terrified I went there instead of trying to get into a magnet program. Fortunately, the jaw breaking incident I had in middle school kept boys more than 20ft away from me at all times.

I do not agree with the militarization of police forces, especially school police (MRAPs and grenade launchers? Really California?) but someone did raise a point: a pistol will do nothing in the event of a wackjob coming in with an AK-47. 

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I APPROVE OF THIS! On account it pisses off the RWHN's of the nation, and their precious snowbirds. Plus it keeps the King of England out of the school's face.

Suu

Quote from: Triggered word /b/ear on September 18, 2014, 09:37:03 PM
I APPROVE OF THIS! On account it pisses off the RWHN's of the nation, and their precious snowbirds. Plus it keeps the King of England out of the school's face.

Damn that king! We already got rid of the buggerer once, we don't need that slovenly git back!  :argh!:
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Calling it now. Some kid is going to pick the lock to the "secure" location and nab an M16.

Reginald Ret

Quote from: The Suu on September 18, 2014, 07:56:22 PM
I'm going to play devil's advocate here.

As someone who grew up in this school district, in the city that Florida lovingly refers to as "Detroit South," where the schools' police officers are ALREADY St. Petersburg/Pinellas Park/Clearwater/Largo/Dunedin/Tarpon Police or Pinellas County Sheriffs, it's not coming across as anything out of the ordinary other than that it has the school district's name on them, instead of the county or city's. I feel this is partially sensationalist journalism. Does a school district need M-16s? Well, it's hard to say. We had riots in 1996, I had to be wanded when I got off the bus to go to school. My high school was known for 2 things: its football team and its rapes. No, I'm not fucking joking, my parents were terrified I went there instead of trying to get into a magnet program. Fortunately, the jaw breaking incident I had in middle school kept boys more than 20ft away from me at all times.

I do not agree with the militarization of police forces, especially school police (MRAPs and grenade launchers? Really California?) but someone did raise a point: a pistol will do nothing in the event of a wackjob coming in with an AK-47.
At a range the length of a classroom, how is an M-16 better against an AK-47 than a pistol? The pistol is easier to conceal and has less weight so it is faster to aim.

On a less sane and more guncrazy note: I think an FN P90 would be better than either. It has the best of both worlds, almost as light as a pistol, more bullets than either and a great firerate plus the 5.7 ammo shoots through bulletproof vests without carrying on after the first body as far as 9mm bullets do.
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On a long enough time line any arms race is going arrive at tactical nukes. Cut to the chase America  :argh!:

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Cain

So schools need M16s...because of riots?  Yeah, I'm sure that will turn out well.

Also, how does a school cop having an M16 help more against rape than a school cop with a pistol?  Does the M16 have a special "bullets which only kill rapists" firing option?

axod

That's why they got the 16's, not the MI5's.
just this

Junkenstein

Look, let's just cut all the bullshit and stress and issue everyone with a grenade at around age 5 or so.

Why? Well, in confined school shooting environment I'd trust a grenade to shut shit down faster than any gun. Who's going to try and shoot a classroom full of kids when they know after the first shot they're getting 20 grenades coming their way? No-one, that's who.

It's not just school violence that stops overnight, it's everyone being a dick. Goes away, just like that. Driving like a fool in heavy traffic? Well there's a grenade through the window, you won't be doing that shit again.

It'd make everyone a damn sight more considerate of everyone else. And they to you, because you've got a grenade too.


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