Lost Keys

[LMNO]

I feel your example doesn't apply, because I consider that you're talking about what to do inside your cell, and I'm talking about the cell itself.

[P3nT4gR4m]

My point is I don't call it a cell. I agree with you that is is but it's equally a ticket to ride the fairground. It's kinda like the glass half empty/half full deal. You choose to see a prison I choose to see a game - 'fun'

[LMNO]

I eagerly await your metaphoric dissertation.


Start a new meme on this, for Lulz' sake.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I eagerly await your metaphoric dissertation.


Start a new meme on this, for Lulz' sake.

That's the punchline right there

Problem is I'm a complete cunt who's just as happy laughing at people as laughing with them. Motivation issues tbh.

I come up with stuff from time to time, maybe some is funny maybe some is angry rant and might work in a bip sequel but its up to someone else if they wanna make a pamphlet out of it.

I don't give enough of a shit to actually work on it. I got too many things I do give a shit about that take priority. Most of these involve laughing, like an idiot.

Sue me.

[LMNO]

[P3nT4gR4m]

I do hope you realise that, despite my apathy, I am trying to be constructive here. I know I can sound critical but I've said before the BIP was a nice piece of work. If you were just now planning on releasing it I wouldn't bring this up cos you can really kill a project by bringing up these kinda issues and bitching about them. But now that you're discussing what to do next this is my two cents.

[LMNO]

No, it's cool.

I understand that the terminology can be a bit of a downer, which is where the GSP came from.

I'm just saying that if we agree on the concepts, and you have a "happier" metaphor, you should share & expand on it.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I'm not sure I do, tbh. But you'll be the first to know if something turns up.

The thing that always struck me about the BIP was the 'Breaking out' factor. I agreed with you when you compared it to initiation, in that you're never really there but there is still a difference between an initiate and a non-intiate and that comes either upon the first experience or some time after right?

So I'm thinking that, although yes, essentially, you've only moved cells, in doing so you have become free or free-er. Now from the point of view of the person who hasn't seen the bars yet the BIP is prolly a bad thing, it's a limiting factor, it's a life unfulfilled but, once you're out then it isn't a bad thing, despite the fact that you're still stuck there, because you know you're stuck there and that changes fucking everything!

That's when the GSP or something else comes in. That's when alcatraz goes from being a jail to a tourist ride.

[LMNO]

Yeah, I get it.

To me, it becomes an issue of responsibility.  Once you see the bars, and once you know that a lot of them are there by choice, then it becomes your responsibility to choose and maintain the cell you want to have.  If you want it to be one of fun and joy, that's up to you.  If you want to ride the gallows humor of paranoia to the bleak gutter, that's also up to you.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Exactly! I find that it's a whole adventure just trying to maintain lucidity. My biological container is a seriously undisciplined pile of shit but I kinda like it that way. When emotions flare up and I get all upset and stuff - that's funny as hell right there 

[Adios]

Yeah, I get it.

To me, it becomes an issue of responsibility.  Once you see the bars, and once you know that a lot of them are there by choice, then it becomes your responsibility to choose and maintain the cell you want to have.  If you want it to be one of fun and joy, that's up to you.  If you want to ride the gallows humor of paranoia to the bleak gutter, that's also up to you.

I added a window to mine. Needed some sunlight.

[LMNO]

I hung this poster up on one wall of mine.

[Adios]

Is the original once posted at MW still intact? I would like to see it posted at MA. A little fertile ground over there.

[LMNO]

Which "one" do you mean?

[Adios]

I think it was the thread starter for the BIP at MW. I may have to go mining to find it.