News:

I hope she gets diverticulitis and all her poop kills her.

Main Menu

Weekly Science Headlines

Started by Kai, July 30, 2008, 10:04:06 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: LMNO on March 30, 2016, 07:54:13 PM
P3nt, angry transhumanist.

Not so much angry as impatient. Cybernetics is taking forever and I've pretty much trashed my ride. I realize it's my own fault for not noticing years ago that there's ways to have fun that don't carry the risk of paraplegia but that's spilled milk under the bridge now. How far out is this tech? 10 years? 20? The answer is how long I have to keep the rotting primate ticking over. It's so close I can taste it.

Lee Majors promised me this shit back in the 70's, FFS. It's been along wait!

On an unrelated note, word on the street is Moore's Law is slowing down. The Intel clock is now going tick tock tock and we're waiting on architectural and/or substrate breakthroughs for advances beyond 5 nanometers which, itself, will be later than advertised. On the plus side - there's some pretty nifty alternatives, waiting in the wings and it could be there's a jump in the order of tens of thousands, right around the corner, rather than the usual double. Have to wait and see how the science pans out.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 30, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 30, 2016, 07:54:13 PM
P3nt, angry transhumanist.

Not so much angry as impatient. Cybernetics is taking forever and I've pretty much trashed my ride. I realize it's my own fault for not noticing years ago that there's ways to have fun that don't carry the risk of paraplegia

There's also the ways that carry the risk of heart attack and stroke; videogames, television, fried cheese, quadruple patty hamburgers, butter, etc. And that brings up the other issue, which is price. They have electromechanical hearts NOW, but they're hella expensive, and my insurance certainly isn't gonna cover one just because I want to find out whether or not deep fried butter would taste good.

If I could I'd replace all my parts with metal machines (well, except for my brain which would be done piecemeal on a cell by cell basis as they burned out and my genitals as those can't really be replaced, even theoretically...well I mean technically they can, but I don't need some huge-ass cell-culture laboratory grafted onto my body)
Praise NHGH! For the tribulation of all sentient beings.


a plague on both your houses -Mercutio


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTGgpWmdZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWd7nPjJH8


It is an unfortunate fact that every man who seeks to disseminate knowledge must contend not only against ignorance itself, but against false instruction as well. No sooner do we deem ourselves free from a particularly gross superstition, than we are confronted by some enemy to learning who would plunge us back into the darkness -H.P.Lovecraft


He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q


You are a fluke of the universe, and whether you can hear it of not the universe is laughing behind your back -Deteriorata


Don't use the email address in my profile, I lost the password years ago

P3nT4gR4m

Of course, the alternative bottom-up approach might get there first. According to this article that showed up on my radar today, we may have a rudimentary genomics middleware already. Need to dig a little deeper, I'm dying to see what the script looks like.

"It is literally a programming language for bacteria," said Christopher Voigt, an MIT professor of biological engineering."

I have a sneaky suspicion it's literally nothing like a programming language and more like a shopping list but a step in the right direction regardless.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

P3nT4gR4m


I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark


minuspace


The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

The bit that got me was the - wavelength longer than the observable universe - part. It's like a loophole in the laws of physics  :eek: 8) :evil:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 21, 2016, 09:40:26 PM
The bit that got me was the - wavelength longer than the observable universe - part. It's like a loophole in the laws of physics  :eek: 8) :evil:

There are no loopholes in physics.  Just weirder phenomena than we specified when we placed the order.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

Praise NHGH! For the tribulation of all sentient beings.


a plague on both your houses -Mercutio


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTGgpWmdZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWd7nPjJH8


It is an unfortunate fact that every man who seeks to disseminate knowledge must contend not only against ignorance itself, but against false instruction as well. No sooner do we deem ourselves free from a particularly gross superstition, than we are confronted by some enemy to learning who would plunge us back into the darkness -H.P.Lovecraft


He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q


You are a fluke of the universe, and whether you can hear it of not the universe is laughing behind your back -Deteriorata


Don't use the email address in my profile, I lost the password years ago

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 21, 2016, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 21, 2016, 09:40:26 PM
The bit that got me was the - wavelength longer than the observable universe - part. It's like a loophole in the laws of physics  :eek: 8) :evil:

There are no loopholes in physics.  Just weirder phenomena than we specified when we placed the order.


Just a friendly reminder from the universe that our version of the rulebook is not yet comprehensive. 8)

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Vanadium Gryllz

"I was fine until my skin came off.  I'm never going to South Attelboro again."

Elder Iptuous

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2016, 02:40:01 PM
LOL, yeah, I guess you're right. I just tend to think emergent AGI is so far off, it's not rteally worth bothering about. What I'm more looking forward to is something that I think much more likely and much more short term - I'll stick my neck on the line and predict that the Turing test will be passed in the next 2-5 years by a machine that does not possess anything even verging on human-level intelligence.

Given that we have an entire mirror-neuron architecture dedicated to projecting anthropomorphic intellect here there and everywhere at the drop of a hat, I suspect that either the next generation of AI assistants or maybe the generation after that will be able to act human enough to fool pretty much everyone except the people working on developing these systems.

At this point we will probably have mass hysteria and paranoia that AGI has arrived and we're all going to die.

:popcorn:

we're  getting closer...

P3nT4gR4m

Much f'kin closer If the VIV ecosystem matures the way I think it could, I could see us getting there pretty rapid. Think price-comparison websites but applied to AI comparison AI's, nested meta-agents selecting ranked domain expertise. The utility is guaranteed off the charts and, sooner or later, some smart arse is going to come up with a good enough personality model to wrap it up in.

Remember, this is all based on my theory that it takes significantly less than human-level intellect to fool a human into thinking it is. (like a fraction of a fraction of 1%) If I'm wrong in this then I'll revise my guess from imminent to - shortly before the heat death of the universe.  :lulz:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.