Open Bar: Arguments About Turtles, All the Way Down

[Doktor Howl]

3 more days and I get to go home to Tucson. 

To clarify:  I get to go home to my wife.

[Eater of Clowns]

3 more days and I get to go home to Tucson. 

To clarify:  I get to go home to my wife.

You and Tucson made it official, huh?

[Doktor Howl]

3 more days and I get to go home to Tucson. 

To clarify:  I get to go home to my wife.

You and Tucson made it official, huh?

Jenny is much prettier than Tucson.  Hell, YOU are much prettier than Tucson.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

3 more days and I get to go home to Tucson. 

To clarify:  I get to go home to my wife.

You and Tucson made it official, huh?

[Suu]

Jesus Nigel, that's just...yeah. I got nothing. 

And here I was just about to bitch that in the last 24 hours, my shower broke again, my computer blew moar, and my router went. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

In better news, my boyfriend, whose last job ended on Thursday, got another job. Thank god. He was starting to go all head-splodey.

[The Wizard Joseph]

I'm OK... it's a little weird, but I'm OK. The weird thing is that a friend of mine mentioned him just the other day, and I said "I have a feeling he's dead" and, well, now he is.

So weird. I'll probably be processing a lot of stuff over the next couple weeks. I married him very young and he was not a good man to be married to.

Very sorry to hear this.  As to the intuition, I've seen weirder. I don't pretend to understand everything, but have pretty much written off secular materialism.

Hang in there, I've lost people close to me and it always brings up stuff.

I'm just kind of sad for him right now. I just got off the phone with his sister and it just sounds like after we split up he was in and out of rehab. Last time I saw him was ten years ago and since then it sounds like he spent a couple of years homeless, was finally clean again (for two years) but his health was just terribly degraded and he ended up dying of a garden-variety stomach bug.

The rational part of me is saying "thank god you got out before he took you down with him", and the irrational part of me is saying "I wonder if things would have been different if I'd stayed?"

Things would have been different if you had stayed in terms of impact on you and your life. Negative impact it sounds like. Dok is right, sometimes failure is a success.
You looked for him. That was you being earnest. Despite that you did not find.  If you had you would surely have spent more of your life's limited resources on him but not likely turned him and surely weakened yourself. 

You and yours would certainly not be where you are now, full of potential. He was responsible for his life and its consequences.  You cared earnestly, and that is very good, but were not responsible for him.

Factors outside your control thwarted you to your own benefit. I could go on, but in essence I'm saying destiny has other plans for you.  He reaped the consequences of his choices. You and yours are still gaining from you not finding him, 'Tis Kismet methinks.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I don't think I would have been in any way compromised by finding him... it's not like I wanted to remarry him, I've just been interested in what became of him. I have a pretty decent set of defenses against people who want to suck resources from me, including time and energy, as well as material resources. I am a grownup, after all.

Obviously, things would have been bad had I stayed. That's why I used the words "rational" and "irrational" to describe my conflicting thoughts. It's not as if I wished I'd stayed, but it's natural when someone dies a needless death to wonder if something could have gone differently and averted that death.

Knock off the platitudes. I don't need them, and we're here on peedee so you're not obliged to utter them.

[The Wizard Joseph]

Fair.

In other news... I've been recruited to play Clash of Clans. My homie actually called me instead of some blank FB invite so I took him up on it.  Man is this game slow, but FREE TO DOWNLOAD I guess. The whole thing is designed to get impatient folks to drop real cash for fake items... freaking brilliant!

It's gonna take me days to play the slow way up to the point I can join their clan.

[LMNO]

I played that for a while, until the upgrades started taking literally a week to build if you didn't want to pay for it.

[The Wizard Joseph]

I played that for a while, until the upgrades started taking literally a week to build if you didn't want to pay for it.

I can already see it going that direction! The devils that designed this are gonna get money on a patience con. . But not from me.. then they win. At least I can play it in short moments of resource gathering and upgrading for now.

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

Fair.

In other news... I've been recruited to play Clash of Clans. My homie actually called me instead of some blank FB invite so I took him up on it.  Man is this game slow, but FREE TO DOWNLOAD I guess. The whole thing is designed to get impatient folks to drop real cash for fake items... freaking brilliant!

It's gonna take me days to play the slow way up to the point I can join their clan.

I've got a level 8. And pointers aplenty. If you reddit, hit the CoC sub. It's a great place to learn how to do the game proper.

Also, if you hold on to your gems and use them to build builder huts, it takes a lot of the impatience factor out because you can have many builds going at once.

I bought my fourth hut, because I figure $10 for a game I've played this many hours is reasonable.

[The Wizard Joseph]

Fair.

In other news... I've been recruited to play Clash of Clans. My homie actually called me instead of some blank FB invite so I took him up on it.  Man is this game slow, but FREE TO DOWNLOAD I guess. The whole thing is designed to get impatient folks to drop real cash for fake items... freaking brilliant!

It's gonna take me days to play the slow way up to the point I can join their clan.

I've got a level 8. And pointers aplenty. If you reddit, hit the CoC sub. It's a great place to learn how to do the game proper.

Also, if you hold on to your gems and use them to build builder huts, it takes a lot of the impatience factor out because you can have many builds going at once.

I bought my fourth hut, because I figure $10 for a game I've played this many hours is reasonable.

I am familiar with the reddit, but not well. Will do some searching. Seems I have 2 days and a precious few hours  before I lose immunity to attack.
Having the game run in the background is killing my battery. 

I was on to the gem game right after I wasted a bunch on the town hall. Got 2 builders and that will have to do for now. Chewed through a bunch of goblin camps. It's too bad you lose units deployed, survive or no.

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

Fair.

In other news... I've been recruited to play Clash of Clans. My homie actually called me instead of some blank FB invite so I took him up on it.  Man is this game slow, but FREE TO DOWNLOAD I guess. The whole thing is designed to get impatient folks to drop real cash for fake items... freaking brilliant!

It's gonna take me days to play the slow way up to the point I can join their clan.

I've got a level 8. And pointers aplenty. If you reddit, hit the CoC sub. It's a great place to learn how to do the game proper.

Also, if you hold on to your gems and use them to build builder huts, it takes a lot of the impatience factor out because you can have many builds going at once.

I bought my fourth hut, because I figure $10 for a game I've played this many hours is reasonable.

I am familiar with the reddit, but not well. Will do some searching. Seems I have 2 days and a precious few hours  before I lose immunity to attack.
Having the game run in the background is killing my battery. 

I was on to the gem game right after I wasted a bunch on the town hall. Got 2 builders and that will have to do for now. Chewed through a bunch of goblin camps. It's too bad you lose units deployed, survive or no.

No need to run it in the background. Just exit when you're done doing your biz. Game keeps time on the server.

Also shields are annoying. They tempt you not to attack player villages.

[Cain]

Finally convinced tech support I'm not a moron who shoved sandwiches into my CD-rom drive for kicks and that they may have actually screwed up here though they've not actually accepted liability, thus far.  Well, not explicitly, but they're sending someone to collect my laptop for repairs, which implies they are...I'm just getting ready for them to try and turn it around on me, despite the fact I didn't do anything and my computer simply spazzed out on me one day.

But with any luck, I should have a working computer again.  At some point.