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Started by EK WAFFLR, August 10, 2015, 03:37:20 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cain

Quote from: Meunster on September 23, 2015, 10:05:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on September 23, 2015, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 09:49:27 PM
OH GOD LIES IS STILL POSTING ON MY FB STATUS

Reminds me, I need to fb stalk you more.

Everyone FB stalks me.  So long as you don't try to hack my account via proxy servers in Taiwan, or arrange a meetup for my freaky Twitter followers, it's all good.

Can I arrange a Cain hate group only bait and switch them at the end for goat.se?

Well, given my Twitter groupies span the range from "Australian Christian fundamentalists who literally think ISIS is the antiChrist" to "people who think Saif al-Gaddafi was a misunderstood genius", with very little in the way of sanity between those two positions, I'm more concerned that any meeting would end up levelling whatever city it took place.

Meunster

Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 10:06:47 PM
Quote from: Meunster on September 23, 2015, 10:05:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on September 23, 2015, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 09:49:27 PM
OH GOD LIES IS STILL POSTING ON MY FB STATUS

Reminds me, I need to fb stalk you more.

Everyone FB stalks me.  So long as you don't try to hack my account via proxy servers in Taiwan, or arrange a meetup for my freaky Twitter followers, it's all good.

Can I arrange a Cain hate group only bait and switch them at the end for goat.se?

Well, given my Twitter groupies span the range from "Australian Christian fundamentalists who literally think ISIS is the antiChrist" to "people who think Saif al-Gaddafi was a misunderstood genius", with very little in the way of sanity between those two positions, I'm more concerned that any meeting would end up levelling whatever city it took place.

You that famous?
Poe's law ;)

Eater of Clowns

Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 10:06:47 PM
Quote from: Meunster on September 23, 2015, 10:05:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on September 23, 2015, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 09:49:27 PM
OH GOD LIES IS STILL POSTING ON MY FB STATUS

Reminds me, I need to fb stalk you more.

Everyone FB stalks me.  So long as you don't try to hack my account via proxy servers in Taiwan, or arrange a meetup for my freaky Twitter followers, it's all good.

Can I arrange a Cain hate group only bait and switch them at the end for goat.se?

Well, given my Twitter groupies span the range from "Australian Christian fundamentalists who literally think ISIS is the antiChrist" to "people who think Saif al-Gaddafi was a misunderstood genius", with very little in the way of sanity between those two positions, I'm more concerned that any meeting would end up levelling whatever city it took place.

I think I need your Twitter info.   :lulz:

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EoC, you are the bane of my existence.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 07, 2014, 01:18:23 AM
EoC doesn't make creepy.

EoC makes creepy worse.

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the afflicted persons get hold of and consume carrots even in socially quite unacceptable situations.

Meunster

Who are our 13 guests?

I can expect like 2 or 5 bots, but 13 seems overkill. Are real people just lurking and not talking?
Poe's law ;)

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Meunster on September 24, 2015, 02:56:04 AM
Who are our 13 guests?

I can expect like 2 or 5 bots, but 13 seems overkill. Are real people just lurking and not talking?

Probably. It happens sometimes, though it hasn't happened much recently.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Meunster on September 24, 2015, 02:56:04 AM
Who are our 13 guests?

I can expect like 2 or 5 bots, but 13 seems overkill. Are real people just lurking and not talking?

We've had over a hundred bots at a time.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Meunster

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 24, 2015, 04:23:15 AM
Quote from: Meunster on September 24, 2015, 02:56:04 AM
Who are our 13 guests?

I can expect like 2 or 5 bots, but 13 seems overkill. Are real people just lurking and not talking?

We've had over a hundred bots at a time.

Wish they were chat bots, and not lurker bots.
Poe's law ;)

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 10:01:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2015, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 09:49:27 PM
OH GOD LIES IS STILL POSTING ON MY FB STATUS

Tag me?  I can't find it.

He's talking about cultural libertarianism, another Breitbart inspired talking point.

That DARVO concept seemed a bit more like meme marketing than science to me. Not to question the scholarship per se, she disclaimed the holes readily, but the mnemonic simplicity seemed to be the big selling point.  It certainly got a bunch of repeats in the comment he linked from.

Those behaviors are often highly complex in both motivation and expression. This is readily admitted by the author. It is also, clearly, a readily thrown insult that in itself can throw an accusation and place someone being an aggressive jerk, and suddenly under fire for it, into the role of victim. DARVO can literally be used to do what it stands for. This is only possible because it grossly oversimplifies and packages a bunch of concepts into a readily recognized, but wholly new, mnemonic device. Not at all familiar enough with the scholar to speculate as to whether this was intentional or not. It's far too late for accusations now anyway.

It's Goddamn weaponized hermaneutics and these fuckers probably don't even know what that means, but they can link to it. They will inevitably keep linking to it.
If it gets enough funding to become an Actual Thing it will balloon exponentially, if that hasn't already happened. If it has soon we could all be DARVO victims.

I wish there was such a thing as ontological inoculation.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Chelagoras The Boulder

Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 23, 2015, 05:55:40 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 23, 2015, 05:47:56 PM


Above and beyond the usual Nigel's dick in everyone's asses?
Nah, nah, DEEP-dicking. We all get just the tip.

Granted the tip is the size of an army helmet, but still
"It isn't who you know, it's who you know, if you know what I mean.  And I think you do."

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2015, 07:14:37 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on September 23, 2015, 07:13:47 PM
Woah! Very glad for you. I had thought that Alty was in Alaska.

He moved to Portland some time ago.

Sounds like the best decision that dude ever did make. I believe he was actually the first person I talked to when I got here. Set me straight on my spelling, and told the noob a thing or two about Eris as I recall. Glad he's doing well!
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Chelagoras The Boulder

Yea, in all seriousness, totally happy for you two.
"It isn't who you know, it's who you know, if you know what I mean.  And I think you do."

Cain

Quote from: Meunster on September 23, 2015, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 10:06:47 PM
Quote from: Meunster on September 23, 2015, 10:05:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on September 23, 2015, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2015, 09:49:27 PM
OH GOD LIES IS STILL POSTING ON MY FB STATUS

Reminds me, I need to fb stalk you more.

Everyone FB stalks me.  So long as you don't try to hack my account via proxy servers in Taiwan, or arrange a meetup for my freaky Twitter followers, it's all good.

Can I arrange a Cain hate group only bait and switch them at the end for goat.se?

Well, given my Twitter groupies span the range from "Australian Christian fundamentalists who literally think ISIS is the antiChrist" to "people who think Saif al-Gaddafi was a misunderstood genius", with very little in the way of sanity between those two positions, I'm more concerned that any meeting would end up levelling whatever city it took place.

You that famous?

No, not really, and that's part of the weirdness.  I've published a few articles, here and there...but nothing major.

Da6s

I have consultation for lasik on Tuesday. If I'm a candidate, I'm pulling the trigger and getting this shit done. It'll mean an extra month or two living in the hated hometown, but the trade off of being able to see upon waking will be worth it.
We appear to be doomed by our DNA to repeat the same destructive behaviors our forebears have repeated for millenia. If anything our problem solving skills have actually diminished with the advent of technology & our ubiquitous modern conveniences. & yet despite our predisposition towards fear-driven hostility; towards what we anachronistically term primitive behavior another instinct is just as firmly encoded in our make-up. We are capable as our ancestors were of incredible breathtaking acts of kindness. Every hour of every day a man risks his life at a moments notice to save another. Forget for a moment the belligerent benevolent billionaires who grant the unfortunate a crumb of costfree cake. I speak of pure acts of selflessness. A Mother who rushes into the street to save a child from a speeding vehicle. A person who runs into a burning building to reach a family trapped on the upper story. Such actions,such moments,such unconscious selfless decisions,define what it is to be human

Cain

If you can afford it, absolutely worthwhile.

I've been considering it myself, but I just keep having other things to spend my money on.