PD, plz advise. Satire device broken

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The sign was fucking horrible. The 'woah, some people just don't like funny things' compounding stupidity.

Pretty much this.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It's probably a small symbolic thing for me if I'm at the restaurant, because it's not a sign saying "Lol, you personally being assaulted or exploited in the restroom is something that very well could happen", but in the face of all of the really big problems you acknowledge need to be addressed, it would probably be really nice to use a public toilet without being  explicitly reminded of that threat, I imagine.

Not very long ago I was in a restroom in a grocery store, and while I was peeing I heard unnerving breathing/sounds coming from the next stall. I left quickly, and shortly after I exited, I saw a guy come out of the bathroom. It was not a unisex bathroom.

So yeah, it can happen anywhere, and "Ha! Ha! Your privacy and/or person aren't really safe here or anywhere!" is not actually a funny joke.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Nor is "LOL! Women are just a thing that men ogle!"

[Reginald Ret]

Well shit, I didn't know that was actually a common thing.
I'm used to seeing separate washrooms, not just separate stalls.
I'll have to ask some local women if this is a thing to fear here as well.

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

So I was looking for a link to the story of a guy who had planted a camera in the nasty hole portion of one of those outhouse style bathrooms they have up in the mountain parks and instead I ran across this:

http://gawker.com/5814302/peeping-tom-hid-inside-porta-potty

Police in Boulder are currently on the lookout for a man who was apparently hiding inside a porta-potty at last week's Hanuman Yoga Festival. Let that sink in for a second.

Yes, our suspect was inside, like, inside the infernal device. A female yoga enthusiast, who will likely need years of therapy, entered the the portable toilet, only to notice "something was moving inside the tank when she lifted the lid," according to police spokeswoman Kim Kobel.

Naturally, she found someone else to double-check what could have been some kind of yogic hallucination. But he, too, saw our peeping, uh, John "inside the tank, covered in a tarp." And after the second witness left the porta potty, it mysteriously locked from the inside.

A security guard waited outside until the man emerged, shirtless, with "several cuts on his back and legs," wearing two leather bracelets. "The supervisor," Kobel told the press, "tried to detain the suspect, but he ran away, covered in feces."

Police believe his name is "Sky."

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

Oh. Nevermind. The story I was looking for originally was just as bad. Gah:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/HT_and_Regs/conversations/topics/187?var=1

Jan. 8 - A Fort Collins man has been arrested in a notorious Peeping-Tom case, in which he allegedly stood at the bottom of a park latrine to spy on and videotape women using the outhouse.

The incident was reported after a woman entered the latrine and noticed a red light below the toilet seat. When she looked closer, she realized a man was standing in the sewage vault with a video camera, said Deputy Cindy Gordon.

The victim yelled, and the man escaped from the outhouse through a nearby manhole. He was wearing fishing waders and plastic bags, according to earlier reports.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Well shit, I didn't know that was actually a common thing.
I'm used to seeing separate washrooms, not just separate stalls.
I'll have to ask some local women if this is a thing to fear here as well.

Most bathrooms here are separate, but creepers sneak in and lurk in a stall until an unsuspecting woman comes in so they can get their jollies listening to her pee.

I actually am less worried about it in gender-neutral bathrooms.

[Cain]

To clarify: I think it was a fairly douchey thing to do, but the response probably wasn't going to convince anybody who didn't already think that was the case, and in fact might have even helped undermine it.

I am pretty fascinated by the political economy of online gender wars, however.  I'd like to see someone tackle that, because certain sites are raking it in due to their focus on it, and it seems smaller media are now cottoning onto the fact.

[The Wizard Joseph]

Maybe they should put this one in the men's room.

To clarify: I think it was a fairly douchey thing to do, but the response probably wasn't going to convince anybody who didn't already think that was the case, and in fact might have even helped undermine it.

I am pretty fascinated by the political economy of online gender wars, however.  I'd like to see someone tackle that, because certain sites are raking it in due to their focus on it, and it seems smaller media are now cottoning onto the fact.

Well the economy of starting wars is simple. You spark outrage and then reap profit. Nigel has given us the perfect tool. Parody. This whole restaurant business could be blown out of proportion with just the right nudge. Not much really. A pic or two. Coupla werds left in judicious places.

If it's not satire yet it could be made such with just a little tweak or two.

Also am drinking delightful coffee ale this evening. Makes me evil(er).

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

To clarify: I think it was a fairly douchey thing to do, but the response probably wasn't going to convince anybody who didn't already think that was the case, and in fact might have even helped undermine it.

I am pretty fascinated by the political economy of online gender wars, however.  I'd like to see someone tackle that, because certain sites are raking it in due to their focus on it, and it seems smaller media are now cottoning onto the fact.

She probably should have simply said that it made her uncomfortable, and then written a letter to corporate.

The manager sounds incredibly shitty, though, that is some piss-poor customer service. If he were my employee he'd be trying real hard to keep his job right now.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Two additional  thoughts:

A. She could be completely lying about how the conversation went down,

B. It's Saskatoon.

[Ben Shapiro]

To the people creeped out by this. Wouldn't having uni-sex/gender free bathrooms make this worse? Because you know numbers?

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

The existence of big, terrible things does not justify the existence of small, terrible things.

I too look forward to the glorious utopia where people dont tell jokes I dont like.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

To the people creeped out by this. Wouldn't having uni-sex/gender free bathrooms make this worse? Because you know numbers?

It could.

My experience has been that it hasn't, but my guess is that that's because most places that have gender-neutral restrooms are already places where people have had sensitivity training, etc.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The existence of big, terrible things does not justify the existence of small, terrible things.

I too look forward to the glorious utopia where people dont tell jokes I dont like.

I look forward to a future in which ostensibly intelligent people don't dismiss a "joke" about women being harassed being posted in a public business as "just a sense of humor thing".

I mean, I know wanting to feel safe and reasonably respected in a bar absurdly outside of the realms of reality and clearly I don't know my place, but a girl can dream.