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Started by Faithless, March 14, 2009, 02:21:48 AM

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Quote from: Faust on March 16, 2009, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 08:08:29 AM
Humanity: The universe will be destroyed. One planet at a time  :lulz:
Don't be silly were not getting off this rock.



We have to. This thing is much bigger than just polluting and ruining one lousy planet.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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Faust

Pipe dreams!
We wont get the oppertunity to get off this rock because of the level of organisation that would be needed. Christ we cant even get control over this ecosystem let alone make one one elsewhere.
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Aufenthatt

You don't need control to make an eco system.

Faust

Quote from: Aufenthatt on March 16, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
You don't need control to make an eco system.
if you have no intrest in going from none to livable for humans then thats right you dont.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it, all we can do is make it inhospitable for ourselves and for other species. When we fuck it up thoroughly enough, we die back and the planet keeps on spinning. All these campaigns about "being kind to the planet" and "Protecting the Earth" are ridiculous simply because in a momentary geological shrug, our civilizations will be rendered moot and survivors will be starting from scratch. Environmentalism is great, but let's be clear on whose environment we're protecting; we're selfish bastards.
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Cramulus

I hope that one day, we'll met alien species which also carries around a collective guilt for nuking their planet's ecosystems.

Would we still feel guilty if we joined a spage-age federation of starfaring species, all of which had eradicated their home planet during their species' development?

Maybe aliens accept that on a long enough timeline, any ecosystem bearing intelligent life is doomed.

P3nT4gR4m

My theory is that, unless you leave the planet at some point, any sentient race will eventually break the fucking thing. With this level of intelligence comes the ability to multiply and survive way beyond the point of sustainability. We use up exponentially more of the ecosystem than any other comparably sized primate.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Pope Lecherous

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 07:31:40 PM
My theory is that, unless you leave the planet at some point, any sentient race will eventually break the fucking thing. With this level of intelligence comes the ability to multiply and survive way beyond the point of sustainability. We use up exponentially more of the ecosystem than any other comparably sized primate.

If we were sufficiently advanced i'm sure the ecosystem would be a place we reside vs. a source for everything we need.
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P3nT4gR4m

If we ever crack star-trek style replicator technology then yeah but along with that will probably come things like ridiculously extended lifespans. At that point it's either take to the stars, population control (always a touchy issue) or standing room only.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Pope Lecherous

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 08:48:32 PM
If we ever crack star-trek style replicator technology then yeah but along with that will probably come things like ridiculously extended lifespans. At that point it's either take to the stars, population control (always a touchy issue) or standing room only.

would you raise the money it would take to put me in a mansion orbiting earth?  I'd bring you along and bitches too, and drugs if you like those
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Aufenthatt

Quote from: Faust on March 16, 2009, 04:44:57 PM
Quote from: Aufenthatt on March 16, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
You don't need control to make an eco system.
if you have no intrest in going from none to livable for humans then thats right you dont.

Micro management is unsustainable.
Make it work, and make it work without eco bureaucracy.

Faust

Quote from: Aufenthatt on March 16, 2009, 09:11:46 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 16, 2009, 04:44:57 PM
Quote from: Aufenthatt on March 16, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
You don't need control to make an eco system.
if you have no intrest in going from none to livable for humans then thats right you dont.

Micro management is unsustainable.
Make it work, and make it work without eco bureaucracy.
who said micromanagement.
Feedback control on some broad control variables would do fine.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it,

:x
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Pope Lecherous

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it,

:x

We can't?
--- War to the knife, knife to the hilt.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Pope Lecherous on March 16, 2009, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it,

:x

We can't?

And after all that planning.

Now what the FUCK am I gonna do with all these radioactive gorillas?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.