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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: LMNO on February 25, 2014, 02:56:07 AM

Title: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: LMNO on February 25, 2014, 02:56:07 AM
So, I'm lucky enough to attempt a wireless house.  I've got Sonos, a Roku with Netflix and Hulu, and at least half a dozen computers and tricorders that feed off of WiFi.

So, the question I have is: Of those who are using Netflix, et al, how much lag, pausing, and dropping are you getting when watching shows and movies?  I want to hope that the standard experience is seamless, but from what I've gone through, a show will snag and hang at least seven times in an hour.

What should I be expecting, here?
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 25, 2014, 03:05:06 AM
I usually watch on my laptop, but Villager has a Roku, and I use that with her on the weekends and such. It's usually pretty seamless but sometimes it acts funky. I'm not sure what factors go into that.
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: Eater of Clowns on February 25, 2014, 03:15:15 AM
I have Netflix Plus, which tears through the veil of your consciousness and screams the viewing experience in a warped tongue directly into your cerebral cortex for a disturbingly immersive understanding.

It lags a little bit during peak hours.
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: LMNO on February 25, 2014, 03:20:57 AM
Dick.   :lol:

Specifically, the Netflix buffer fails constantly, then hangs at 25% when reloading.
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: Salty on February 25, 2014, 03:26:58 AM
That doesn't sound right. Is it on High Quality? That's what kept mine lagging just like that. It's an awful lot of data, that high quality.
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on February 25, 2014, 03:36:21 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 25, 2014, 02:56:07 AM
So, I'm lucky enough to attempt a wireless house.  I've got Sonos, a Roku with Netflix and Hulu, and at least half a dozen computers and tricorders that feed off of WiFi.

So, the question I have is: Of those who are using Netflix, et al, how much lag, pausing, and dropping are you getting when watching shows and movies?  I want to hope that the standard experience is seamless, but from what I've gone through, a show will snag and hang at least seven times in an hour.

What should I be expecting, here?

You should be expecting large Internet service providers to be battling Netflix about the costs of delivering streaming HD content:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/netflix-packets-being-dropped-every-day-because-verizon-wants-more-money/
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/netflix-may-have-gained-direct-connection-to-comcast-network/

Do you have Comcast or Verizon?

In any event, consult the Netflix ISP speed index: http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/results/usa/graph
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 08:20:29 AM
I've used the UK version and accessed the US version a few times with few problems. Given Comcast and Verizon's tendency to fuck with you because fuck you, I wouldn't be surprised if they were the real source of your issues at all.
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 25, 2014, 10:21:07 AM
Bandwidth is affected by many conditions. The internets is like the road system, sometimes it gets congested or theres an accident involving a series of trucks. The good news is it's only going to improve as time goes on.

I use a pirate box which has access to most of the available media and channels. At certain times of the day/week it's silky smooth, at other times I'll get stutters. Does netflix have an option to download content? I generally spend 5-10 mins downloading a movie or series, if I'm going to be watching during peak times that way I can guarantee no stutter.
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 10:54:32 AM
Fair point. It may be easier to just download (whatever you want from a certain piratical bay) and dedicate a computer to stream the downloaded copy from.

I mention that only because there was a couple of things we were looking for on Netflix a while ago and neither US or UK version had them. That said, I have no idea why the fuck we wanted to watch "Cool Runnings" in the first place. 

Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 25, 2014, 12:36:46 PM
Wasn't arguing for or against pirate/legal, just noting that I'm using a streaming service (like a distributed netflix or lovefilm)  but it has an option to download. Surely the legal ones have this? Would be silly not too, given the way the trucks sometimes get stuck in the tubes.
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 12:44:50 PM
I've not found an easy/obvious way to download with netflix though I'm sure it's possible if so inclined. I doubt their TOS or business model supports this however.
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 25, 2014, 12:51:20 PM
DRM already supports time/replay/copy limited file management. I'm not talking about an ownership scenario here, merely full-file caching...

... actually, now that I think about it, the IP industry probably is dumb enough not to have thought about implementing this. Forget I said anything :oops:
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: Faust on February 25, 2014, 02:52:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 25, 2014, 02:56:07 AM
So, I'm lucky enough to attempt a wireless house.  I've got Sonos, a Roku with Netflix and Hulu, and at least half a dozen computers and tricorders that feed off of WiFi.

So, the question I have is: Of those who are using Netflix, et al, how much lag, pausing, and dropping are you getting when watching shows and movies?  I want to hope that the standard experience is seamless, but from what I've gone through, a show will snag and hang at least seven times in an hour.

What should I be expecting, here?

Wow, eh we have crappy internet but nothing like that. Are you on Verizon, didn't they choke netflix?
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 25, 2014, 03:16:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 25, 2014, 02:56:07 AM
So, I'm lucky enough to attempt a wireless house.  I've got Sonos, a Roku with Netflix and Hulu, and at least half a dozen computers and tricorders that feed off of WiFi.

So, the question I have is: Of those who are using Netflix, et al, how much lag, pausing, and dropping are you getting when watching shows and movies?  I want to hope that the standard experience is seamless, but from what I've gone through, a show will snag and hang at least seven times in an hour.

What should I be expecting, here?

My house has been mostly wireless (all devices other than my desktop) for about a decade, and we have to reset the wireless router about 4 times a day, but otherwise it works fine. Also a new router would solve that problem.
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: LMNO on February 25, 2014, 03:27:41 PM
So, the tech was here, and it looks like this was one of the dumbest problems ever.

The original installer used the wrong power cord, causing the wifi modem to short out and reset itself.

I mean, I'm glad it's nothing major, but the amount of frustration this has caused, over some dumbass using the wrong power cord...



ROGER!  GET YOUR TUCSON OUT OF MY BOSTON!  GAWDAMMIT!
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 03:51:58 PM
It's not really a Tucson level event until the whole thing stops working because you fixed the problem.

Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: LMNO on February 25, 2014, 03:57:05 PM
Oh, but it starts when Mike comes by to set up the equipment and assures me it's "totally fine".
Title: Re: The burdens of Techmology, and other totally frustrating bur minor problems
Post by: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 04:29:46 PM
Nah, it starts when someone says "Do you know what would be GREAT and only take like, a minute, to set up?"

Then the lights start flashing and people assume the brace position.