Do What You Love

[rong]

Musicians have a very good understanding of this.

"You're doing what you love - why should I pay you?"

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Please note that I am not fleeing from or conceding this debate.

I'm just not able to argue without getting all pissed off right now, no matter what I am arguing about.  To avoid being a complete jackass to my friends here, I will be avoiding this thread until I feel better.

[3n1g]

Considering is horse shit, simply do!

If everyday you think your highest esteemed thoughts, they too will come to be mundane.

For Discordia's you seem to be very much under the yolk of 'rules' and 'the way things work'

Seems unproductive to me, like believing 'Doing what you love' would be a product of 'Trying to do what you think you love' (A day one lesson of BIP!)

[tyrannosaurus vex]

Oh boy.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Considering is horse shit, simply do!

If everyday you think your highest esteemed thoughts, they too will come to be mundane.

For Discordia's you seem to be very much under the yolk of 'rules' and 'the way things work'

Seems unproductive to me, like believing 'Doing what you love' would be a product of 'Trying to do what you think you love' (A day one lesson of BIP!)

Someone I respect once said some words which I consider very wise, even to this day. I would encourage you to consider them now.

SHUT UP.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Considering is horse shit, simply do!

If everyday you think your highest esteemed thoughts, they too will come to be mundane.

For Discordia's you seem to be very much under the yolk of 'rules' and 'the way things work'

Seems unproductive to me, like believing 'Doing what you love' would be a product of 'Trying to do what you think you love' (A day one lesson of BIP!)

Someone I respect once said some words which I consider very wise, even to this day. I would encourage you to consider them now.

SHUT UP.

Why do people think we're interested in discord?

When will they figure out that we're all about dis cord:



Everything's about dis cord here.

[Left]

Why do people think we're interested in discord?

When will they figure out that we're all about dis cord:



Everything's about dis cord here.

As opposed to dat cord ovah deah.
...Hi new poster.  Are you a human?
P.S.:
I don't think it's so much we're interested in discord as it's just an emergent property of our beings.
Hail Eris.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

You discordia's are unproductive.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Considering is horse shit, simply do!

If everyday you think your highest esteemed thoughts, they too will come to be mundane.

For Discordia's you seem to be very much under the yolk of 'rules' and 'the way things work'

Seems unproductive to me, like believing 'Doing what you love' would be a product of 'Trying to do what you think you love' (A day one lesson of BIP!)

[3n1g]

As opposed to dat cord ovah deah.
...Hi new poster.  Are you a human?
P.S.:
I don't think it's so much we're interested in discord as it's just an emergent property of our beings.
Hail Eris.

I am human but I have robot friends. And I don't be told what to do so no shut up. My teeth hurt.

[Telarus]

As opposed to dat cord ovah deah.
...Hi new poster.  Are you a human?
P.S.:
I don't think it's so much we're interested in discord as it's just an emergent property of our beings.
Hail Eris.

I am human but I have robot friends. And I don't be told what to do so no shut up. My teeth hurt.

Lol, nice knee-jerk rebellion. Black sheep are still sheep.

[Left]

As opposed to dat cord ovah deah.
...Hi new poster.  Are you a human?
P.S.:
I don't think it's so much we're interested in discord as it's just an emergent property of our beings.
Hail Eris.

I am human but I have robot friends. And I don't be told what to do so no shut up. My teeth hurt.

Suggestion: whiskey helps with toothache.  Especially if you swallow it after swishing it around in your mouth a bit, and then repeat liberally.

...Follow advice at your own risk.
In fact, do everything at your own risk.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I was seeing it more as a myth that is fed to rich kids, that if you end up not doing something you love, you're somehow a failure.

But I may very well have been reading my own fears and insecurities into the piece.

I read it as "must be nice to have the option of doing something you love".  Perhaps I read it wrong.

I have that option.  But I choose not to use that option, as I do not wish to spend time in prison.

Because what I really want to do is rob banks.  No shit.  If I could do anything I wanted, I'd make John Dillinger look like a small time pickpocket.

Dude, I can so relate. I wanted to be a hit man, like Jean Reno in Leon.

[President Television]

I agree with Nigel and Roger, and I don't think they're actually contradicting each other if I'm interpreting them correctly. I agree with Roger that it's good to enjoy your work, but I also agree with Nigel that we should neither feel obligated to follow our dreams, nor impose that obligation on others. I think the real enemy here is arbitrary social pressure and shame over details of our lives that ultimately don't hurt anyone else.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I agree with Nigel and Roger, and I don't think they're actually contradicting each other if I'm interpreting them correctly. I agree with Roger that it's good to enjoy your work, but I also agree with Nigel that we should neither feel obligated to follow our dreams, nor impose that obligation on others. I think the real enemy here is arbitrary social pressure and shame over details of our lives that ultimately don't hurt anyone else.

Let's put it in this perspective:

I want to be a rockstar (much as Roger wants to be a bank robber, and yano, I can see it). I can't be a rock star. The odds are against me. Those odds would be skewed in my favor if I already had a boost of some sort or another. Music is highly competitive, favors the mediocre, and I actually care about how I express myself and how it sounds to me. That doesn't necessarily sell. It could. It could very well given the right marketing, representation and acumen to project the course of the entertainment industry against current technology. That's a lot of shit for a musician to handle. Unless you already have the financial resources to hire the right guys or make that lucky and unlikely break. I mean, hell, I would hands down say that LMNO is one of the 5 most impressive Massachusetts drummers I've ever heard, and I'd probably bump him up to number 2 on that list (and it's a close call even there). And yet, he is not signed, touring or famous. Some really messed up thing happened there where he's an office grunt.

I'm quite sure LMNO is an excellent office grunt, but he's most likely a better drummer, and would rather be doing that because he loves it. What LMNO does with drums I do with guitar and bass. I would love to do that. I would prefer to do that. Do what I love, right?

Yeah, no. I'm one of the guitarists for Anarchangel, a respected and promising band that is going to go nowhere. Not because of lack of skill, but because of three things: 1: We're musical project with a government that is kind of implied by the name. We don't have a manager at all, let alone a capable one. 2: We're all now doing other shit. Pat took over his late father's business. I'm going to school. Pete's thinking of moving to the other side of the continent. Villager wants to leave Boston because she hates Boston specifically (glad I narrowed that bit down, btw), and Anne Marie can get any music gig she wants locally. She's a Pagan that sings for the Catholic Church because her voice is awesome and the Pope never needs to find out. 3: We're doing what we love, but what we love isn't doing for us what we need it to. Why do you think I'm going into Biology? That's not what I WANT to do. It's something that I'm interested in and can see myself doing for the rest of my life, but that is not doing what I love. I'm doing what I'm interested in. And I'm doing it so I can do something else that pays better.